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Old 23-07-2016, 13:16
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Anyone else know who Codeblue wants for manager seeing as I obviously missed her answer previously?
The repetitive requests to a single poster are as tiresome as their not answering. Just let it go. I'm sure they have other things to do that don't involve just answering questions at your request.
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Old 23-07-2016, 13:36
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Far too much time is wasted on talk of who the captain should be. It's a peculiarly English thing to place so much emphasis on who has a bit of nylon around their arm. Sven and Capello seemed a bit taken aback by the press interest in it. Do it game by game and don't make such a huge thing of it.

One of the last decent (although woefully underperforming) England sides was in Euro 96 who had about 11 club captains in the core 14 players. Only Gascoigne, Anderton or McManaman were not.

Its hard to recall if Adams or Shearer were captain and who was in 1998 as neither played any differently. Then you had Pearce, Neville, Ince plus Platt, Southgate, Seaman, Campbell, Sheringham who were all leaders and made the choice of captain a little redundant. They should be trying to install that.
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Old 23-07-2016, 15:10
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Let captain be whoever is oldest or has most caps or scores most goals in training or has the nicest smile in the pre-match photos, it's a giant distraction that wastes everybody's time.
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Old 23-07-2016, 15:21
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Let captain be whoever is oldest or has most caps or scores most goals in training or has the nicest smile in the pre-match photos, it's a giant distraction that wastes everybody's time.
it is a waste of time, but they are expected to "front up" before and after games, be a role model, and of course be undropable.
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Old 23-07-2016, 15:52
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Don't pick a permanent captain and you don't have a dilemma about dropping anyone, plus it'll stop people making it a needless talking point in future. Two birds killed.
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Old 23-07-2016, 19:38
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Papers think Rooney will still be captain which probably won't go down well...
Well Lothar Matthaus thinks Eric Dier should be captain

I dont always agree with a German, but i think he is on to something there
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Old 23-07-2016, 21:32
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Well Lothar Matthaus thinks Eric Dier should be captain

I dont always agree with a German, but i think he is on to something there
Are Germans automatically disagreeable in your world?
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Old 23-07-2016, 22:05
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Are Germans automatically disagreeable in your world?
No, but Germans always think they are superior to us, as they think they are right all the time

With their national team they have got things right by overhauling the youth system when their team was worst than ours

And it took them at least ten years for their youth system to produce a World Cup winning team

I dont know why we cant copy the German and Spanish model on how to create a decent national team, when we know it works
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Old 24-07-2016, 08:16
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No, but Germans always think they are superior to us, as they think they are right all the time
this is actually a racist post, you dont honestly believe it do you?
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Old 24-07-2016, 08:30
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No, but Germans always think they are superior to us, as they think they are right all the time
They do? Where do you get that impression from? Do they often think they're better than us, and in an unjustifiable way?

With their national team they have got things right by overhauling the youth system when their team was worst than ours

And it took them at least ten years for their youth system to produce a World Cup winning team

I dont know why we cant copy the German and Spanish model on how to create a decent national team, when we know it works
So they think they're better than us, which you have a problem with, and here they think they're better than us because they're...uh...better than us?


There's nothing wrong with a bit of German supremacy.
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Old 24-07-2016, 08:36
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The Germans that I've met are some of the most down to earth people.
In terms of superior...of course they are when it comes to football, a different universe!
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Old 24-07-2016, 09:48
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this is actually a racist post, you dont honestly believe it do you?
No it isn't.
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Old 24-07-2016, 09:51
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It's about as racist as saying a Dutch person is from Holland.
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Old 24-07-2016, 10:20
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It's about as racist as saying a Dutch person is from Holland.
the post was basically saying everyone from a certain country is ALL the same - in a negative way.

"No, but Germans always think they are superior to us, as they think they are right all the time"

Swap "Germans" with another demographic, like "Males" or "Females", thats sexist.

Do you see the pattern?
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Old 24-07-2016, 10:45
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this is actually a racist post, you dont honestly believe it do you?
Cobblers!

The irony of you calling someone's post racist when you are happy to defend John Terry for his crimes.

Don't give me the well he wasn't found guilty in a court of law either. He was caught on camera.
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Old 24-07-2016, 11:01
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Far too much time is wasted on talk of who the captain should be. It's a peculiarly English thing to place so much emphasis on who has a bit of nylon around their arm. Sven and Capello seemed a bit taken aback by the press interest in it. Do it game by game and don't make such a huge thing of it.

One of the last decent (although woefully underperforming) England sides was in Euro 96 who had about 11 club captains in the core 14 players. Only Gascoigne, Anderton or McManaman were not.

Its hard to recall if Adams or Shearer were captain and who was in 1998 as neither played any differently. Then you had Pearce, Neville, Ince plus Platt, Southgate, Seaman, Campbell, Sheringham who were all leaders and made the choice of captain a little redundant. They should be trying to install that.
Very sadly we don't have those sort of people in the squad anymore, and so the options in terms of captaincy are pretty small, not like in the days and times that you rightfully mention.
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Old 24-07-2016, 11:54
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If Germans all thought they were superior that would suggest some kind of single national hivemind. That would extend to other nationalities and there's no way I'm taking any blame for owen10.
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Old 24-07-2016, 11:59
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The Germans that I've met are some of the most down to earth people.
In terms of superior...of course they are when it comes to football, a different universe!
I'm willing to bet that Owen hasn't met a German person before in his life.
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Old 24-07-2016, 12:06
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He's got all the Dad's Army and 'Allo 'Allo boxsets.
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Old 25-07-2016, 08:21
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Cobblers!

The irony of you calling someone's post racist when you are happy to defend John Terry for his crimes.

Don't give me the well he wasn't found guilty in a court of law either. He was caught on camera.
This post is incredible.

Someone posts a clearly prejudiced bigoted statement in the forum, and when you call them out on it, as a lot of people have here, we get a post like the above!

Last time i checked, Mr Terry is not a criminal, so i have no idea why you have posted the above, if only to troll me?

Anyway, lets get back on topic.

Who is a good fit for assistant manager?
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Old 25-07-2016, 08:39
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Sammy Lee and Paul Clement is the word.
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Old 25-07-2016, 12:13
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Sammy Lee and Paul Clement is the word.
That would be a heck of a turnaround for Clement as hasn't he just joined up with Bayern??
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Old 25-07-2016, 12:38
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Wait here, I'll go check
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Old 25-07-2016, 13:51
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Wait here, I'll go check
Can I go yet, as I have things to do today.
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Old 25-07-2016, 14:46
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Can I go yet, as I have things to do today.
Ooh are you doing anything exciting now your Utd viewing has been cancelled.
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