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No selections played any part in going out. We would not have got past the QF whatever players were picked. They are nowhere near good enough.
The next WC will be the hardest to qualify for, only 13 places, coming second will not even guarantee a play off place. The main fault was the lack of organisation. When players began to panic there was no simple default game plan to revert to. So we saw very good players (man for man better than anything Iceland had) playing very badly and above all aimlessly. |
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Glen Hoddle now second favour at 6/1, looks like a lot of money going on him!
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/football-specials/manager-specials/Next-Permanent-England-Manager-4984795.html I wouldn't be too disappointed if he got it, he talks a lot of sense as a pundit and was only pushed out last time due to his religious beliefs which was very unfiar from the press imo! |
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I actually think Stuart Pearce speaks very knowledgeably and I agree with so much that he says about England.
However, his past record is so poor he wouldn't get near consideration, maybe rightly so. |
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Glen Hoddle now second favour at 6/1, looks like a lot of money going on him!
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/football-specials/manager-specials/Next-Permanent-England-Manager-4984795.html I wouldn't be too disappointed if he got it, he talks a lot of sense as a pundit and was only pushed out last time due to his religious beliefs which was very unfiar from the press imo! Complete liability who alienates players |
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Yeah I appreciate that but if all that happens is that the manager is changed then in two years time when England exit the World Cup in a disappointing manner there will be another one-off reason to blame and it will all just start again. What Im saying is there can always be a shallow surface explanation why England fail but when you put all these reasons together over a 20 + year period then its maybe time to look a little deeper.
The elephant in the room is the FA and how it runs the game. That is the one constant factor which explains so much about how things go wrong most tournaments. However it must be said that for the first two games England looked very good going forward. Plenty of movement and some good positive possession. We should easily have won the group. One utterly abject performance does not mean the team were total failures the rest of the time. |
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Is it not as simple as picking players who suit a system rather than trying to find a system to suit the players ?
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Hoddle might be a bit of a PR non-starter (won't go well with any disabled groups the FA are involved in..)
Mind you there aren't many appealing options in terms of British managers (Redknapp doesn't want the job..) Depends if the FA want to risk more furore and go foreign again. |
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The next England manager needs to be able to keep a lid on the expectation and keep the players more grounded.
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For me, the next England manager shouldn't be a 'yes' man.
i certainly wouldnt hire a person who was not going to agree with my decisions, i hire people to carry them out! |
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First thing I would do is not get the best manager available. I would avoid managers with experience too. This policy has failed us every time before.
WE need an average manager and one with some, but not loads of experience. |
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FA Executive has just been on the radio saying that they're going to have a meeting soon to 'scope out the key deliverables'
so.......err, that'll all be good then |
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First thing I would do is not get the best manager available. I would avoid managers with experience too. This policy has failed us every time before.
WE need an average manager and one with some, but not loads of experience. |
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FA Executive has just been on the radio saying that they're going to have a meeting soon to 'scope out the key deliverables'
so.......err, that'll all be good then |
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Who has got the tougher job
The FA appointing a new manager Or The Conservative party appointing their next leader |
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Who has got the tougher job
The FA appointing a new manager Or The Conservative party appointing their next leader what a mess this country is in |
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Who has got the tougher job
The FA appointing a new manager Or The Conservative party appointing their next leader |
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FA Executive has just been on the radio saying that they're going to have a meeting soon to 'scope out the key deliverables'
so.......err, that'll all be good then |
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FA Executive has just been on the radio saying that they're going to have a meeting soon to 'scope out the key deliverables'
so.......err, that'll all be good then Oh, and don't shag the secretary. |
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When it comes to the new manager, we need blue sky thinking to maximise brand awareness too. Let's touch base at the end of play.
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The next England manager needs to be able to keep a lid on the expectation and keep the players more grounded.
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Next Manager?
Ian Holloway. We won't win anything (but we never do, so no problem there) but the post match press conferences would be entertaining. |
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I wonder if the FA will try to get the public back on side by getting Beckham in the setup in some capacity. Not as manager obviously, but somewhere.
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I keep hearing the name
Laurent Blanc I dont know why Maybe because he is French Or Maybe He has managed France so he has international experience |
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FA Executive has just been on the radio saying that they're going to have a meeting soon to 'scope out the key deliverables'
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I keep hearing the name
Laurent Blanc I dont know why Maybe because he is French Or Maybe He has managed France so he has international experience |
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