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Old 27-10-2016, 07:28
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a few times this season, I've heard 5Live refer to at least 144 commentaries. wonder if this is to take in to account the extra games they are picking up because of talksport's quotas? I agree its pretty confusing for the listeners and I hope something is done to make things clearer in future deals.
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Old 27-10-2016, 10:01
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Yeah i agree saying "at least" tends to leave seeds of confusion yes they are right to plug how many games they are covering but they should clarify why they say "at least"
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Old 27-10-2016, 13:20
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In previous seasons they must have auctioned the radio rights in a slightly different way, almost entirely by time slot, whereas the current three year deal has greater alignment with the TV packages. Prior to this radio rights deal, any PL game that kicked off at 5:30 on a Saturday or before 3:00 on a Sunday was definitely on TS, along with any midweek games on a Wednesday or Friday, regardless of the TV broadcaster or the package the game came from.

I would imagine 5L have rights aligned to the other five TV packages, and then you would have another two packages exclusively for radio - first choice of Saturday 3pm games (which 5L have) and second pick of games (which TS2 have and prior to them Absolute Radio had).

I would imagine the first package would go beyond just first pick of 3pms on Saturdays and include games not selected for TV coverage and played on a Sunday, moved because of European football and not being covered by TS, and rearranged matches towards the end of the season when FA Cup involvement etc leads to fixture postponements. Quite often in the final few weeks of the season you'll have several Tuesday/Wednesdays of rearranged matches - it would be impossible for 5L to know how many of those there will be, so it makes sense that they say "at least 144" because that is the bare minimum before rearranged games come into it. My guess would be all these games above and beyond 144 come from their Saturday 3pm radio package, which probably doesn't have a specific number of live fixtures stated as it's impossible to know in advance.
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Old 27-10-2016, 20:26
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Interesting analysis on the vagaries of the Premier League national radio rights situation.

A couple of things I'd like to highlight - firstly talkSPORT's Saturday 5.30pm and Sunday pre-3pm packages have only been reduced by four games each from the previous two contracts. If you bear in mind that they have lost around four Wednesday night games due to the reallocation of those matches from the former package, only about four matches from their weekend timeslots should be affected. With them losing a 5.30pm Saturday game a few weeks ago and the one that will take place this weekend, plus last Sunday's 1.30pm kick-off, could almost all of the weekend games removed from their packages and added to 5 Live's ones have been accounted for already?

King Betty's suggestion that it may all come down to TV pick order and the apathetical categorisation of fixtures seems to follow logically, but in practice it might not always be sensible to make Radio 5 Live and talkSPORT take games from outside of their usual timeslots due to factors beyond their control. For example, if a Saturday 5.30pm match comes from TV package F or G on a Saturday in March when it's England v Wales in the Six Nations after 5pm, it makes no sense to give the BBC a clash of commitments like that, which would probably see the football go out on Radio 5 Live Sports Extra than on either analogue station. That's not to say the BBC should lose a game, but perhaps you could apply a degree of common sense and allow them to take a match of similar quality from another weekend with no such clashes. So hopefully there's a sensible level of autonomy to avoid situations like that.

On the reference to Radio 5 Live having "at least" 144 commentaries, could that just simply be alluding to how there may be more than 28/32 matches in some of the timeslots they hold rights to over the course of the season, and so it's quite possible they may creep over their named quota by the end of the campaign. Over the years talkSPORT have quite regularly broadcast slightly more than 64 Premier League commentaries per season, only by one or two games most years, with this occurring as there are more than 32 matches taking place in the timeslots they are entitled to cover. So this disclaimer could simply be referring to that sort of thing happening quite naturally.
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Old 28-10-2016, 09:54
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5Live this weekend

Sunderland vs Arsenal - John Murray & Pat Nevin
WBA vs Man City - Ian Dennis & Lawro

Birmingham vs Villa - Ian Brown & Robbie Savage
Southampton vs Chelsea - Alistair Bruce-Ball & Steve Claridge

Stoke vs Swansea - Steve Wilson & Chris Waddle

Nothing listed for Palace/Liverpool by Phil Wye. Looking at this, it will be Conor McManara (or maybe Alan Green)
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Old 28-10-2016, 11:21
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Alan Green and David Pleat at Palace!

City/Barca and Spurs/Leverkusen in CL next week
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Old 28-10-2016, 17:41
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With them not having commentary on the Saturday 5.30pm game this weekend, Sam Matterface and Stuart Pearce will be talkSPORT 2's commentary team on Manchester United v Burnley at 3pm. On Sunday, Jim Proudfoot and Ray Houghton - who increasingly appear to be the regular Sunday Exclusive commentary pairing - will call Everton v West Ham United on talkSPORT.

talkSPORT will be doing commentary on three European games in midweek; Ludogorets Razgrad v Arsenal on Tuesday, Kobenhavn v Leicester City on Wednesday and Fenerbahce v Manchester United on Thursday; all three to go out on their primary station with Danny Kelly listed to present the coverage.
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Old 29-10-2016, 02:44
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5Live have got Spurs vs West Ham at 5:30 on 19th November

They are also doing Leeds vs Newcastle on 20th November (1:15)
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Old 29-10-2016, 10:46
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With them not having commentary on the Saturday 5.30pm game this weekend, Sam Matterface and Stuart Pearce will be talkSPORT 2's commentary team on Manchester United v Burnley at 3pm. On Sunday, Jim Proudfoot and Ray Houghton - who increasingly appear to be the regular Sunday Exclusive commentary pairing - will call Everton v West Ham United on talkSPORT.

talkSPORT will be doing commentary on three European games in midweek; Ludogorets Razgrad v Arsenal on Tuesday, Kobenhavn v Leicester City on Wednesday and Fenerbahce v Manchester United on Thursday; all three to go out on their primary station with Danny Kelly listed to present the coverage.
On talkSPORT 2 on Tuesday, it's Borussia Monchengladbach v Celtic, with Juventus v Lyon on Wednesday.
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Old 29-10-2016, 11:16
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Jonathan Overend is presenting 5Live Sport today from The Hawthorns. On Twitter, he's posted his notes with fixtures and initials for the reporters next to them so here goes!

Sunderland vs Arsenal - John Murray & Pat Nevin
WBA vs Man City - Ian Dennis & Lawro
Manchester Utd vs Burnley - Ian Brown (IB)
Spurs vs Leicester - Alistair Bruce-Ball (ABB)
'Boro vs Bournemouth - Juliette Ferrington (JF)
Watford vs Hull - John Hunt (JH)
Palace vs Liverpool - Alan Green & David Pleat

Preston vs Newcastle - Alistair Yeomans (AY)
Brighton vs Norwich - Simon Mann (SM)
Fulham vs Huddersfield - Gigi Salmon (GS)

I'm not sure on GS at Fulham but it is my best guess, the others all look right to me

There's a CL next to Sheffield Utd/MK Dons who I can't think of and a DD next to Aberdeen vs Celtic too.
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Old 29-10-2016, 11:51
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DD will probably be Dave Donaldson at Aberdeen. The only CL I can think of is Charles Lambert but I don't think he has reported for some time. I suspect you are right with Gigi Salmon.
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Old 29-10-2016, 11:56
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Thanks Ian

I suspect CL will also be on Final Score so we might find out
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Old 29-10-2016, 14:19
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BBC Radio Manchester presented by Jimmy Wagg from Rochdale

WBA v Manchester City - Ian Cheeseman and Fred Eyre - FM commentary
Manchester United v Burney - Bill Rice - reports
Cardiff City v Wigan Athletic - Ross Heston - reports
Bolton Wanderers v Port Vale - Jack Dearden - reports
Northampton Town v Bury - Graham Miller - reports
Rochdale v Oldham Athletic - Phil Kinsella and Steve Eyre - DAB commentary
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Old 29-10-2016, 14:47
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BBC Radio Sheffield 29/10/16:-

On FM/Freeview. Derby v Sheffield Wednesday. Rob Staton and Brian Laws.
On MW/DAB-Ipswich v Rotherham. Jonathan Buchan.

Reports:-
Barnsley v Bristol City. Adam Oxley.
Charlton v Chesterfield. Matthew Shaw.
Doncaster v Wycombe. Paul Fisher.

Sheffield United v MK Dons. Andy Giddings, who also hosted build up to kick off from 14:00 and im sure Praise and Grumble which will be from 17:00-18:30. Rob was supposed to host build up to kick off but there was technical issues at the ipro
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Old 29-10-2016, 14:55
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Friday 28th October - talkSPORT

Matt Smith presented Kick Off: The Player's Lounge alongside Danny Gabbidon

Championship
Queens Park Rangers v Brentford - Tony Incenzo

Rugby Union: Premiership
Northampton Saints v Gloucester - Simon Ward

Cricket: Second Test Match
Bangladesh v England - Jon Norman


talkSPORT Live and Bundesliga.com

Bundesliga
Borussia Monchengladbach v Eintracht Frankfurt - Kevin Hatchard
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Old 29-10-2016, 15:12
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Thanks Ian

I suspect CL will also be on Final Score so we might find out
CL is Chris Latchem, who indeed is also on Final Score
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Old 29-10-2016, 15:30
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Saturday 29th October - talkSPORT

Adrian Durham presenting Matchday Live from the Hawthorns with Ray Parlour at White Hart Lane, followed by The Full Time Phone-In hosted by Danny Kelly with Stuart Pearce at Old Trafford

Premier League
Sunderland v Arsenal - Graham Courtney
Manchester United v Burnley - Ian Danter, with Sam Matterface and Stuart Pearce pre-match
Middlesbrough v AFC Bournemouth - Simon Humphreys
Tottenham Hotspur v Leicester City - Ian Abrahams and Ray Parlour
Watford v Hull City - Geoff Peters
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester City - Nigel Pearson and Adrian Durham
Crystal Palace v Liverpool - Alex Crook

Championship
Barnsley v Bristol City - Nick Walsh
Brighton & Hove Albion v Norwich City - Elliot Cook
Cardiff City v Wigan Athletic - Laurence Mora
Derby County v Sheffield Wednesday - Dave Rowe
Fulham v Huddersfield Town - Jake Robson
Preston North End v Newcastle United - Graham Beecroft
Blackburn Rovers v Wolverhampton Wanderers - Alan Biggs

Cricket: Second Test Match
Bangladesh v England - Jon Norman

Rugby League: Four Nations
England v New Zealand - Richard Shaw-Wright


talkSPORT 2

Ian Danter presenting Matchday Live 2 from Old Trafford alongside Stuart Pearce

Premier League
Manchester United v Burnley - Sam Matterface and Stuart Pearce (3pm commentary), with James Dodd producing


talkSPORT Live

Premier League
Sunderland v Arsenal - Richard Connelly and Clive Walker
Manchester United v Burnley - Dan Windle
Middlesbrough v AFC Bournemouth - Callum Williams
Tottenham Hotspur v Leicester City - Adam Bridge and Matthew Etherington (featured 3pm commentary on international radio stations)
Watford v Hull City - Jon Howick
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester City - Barry Swain
Crystal Palace v Liverpool - TBA

Bundesliga
FC Augsburg v Bayern Munchen - James Fielden
Borussia Dortmund v Schalke 04 - Toby Gilles


BBC WM 95.6

BBC WM 95.6 Sport presented by Paul Franks from the Hawthorns (2-5.15pm) and Daz Hale from Ewood Park (5.15-8pm)

Premier League
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester City - Rob Gurney and Paul Franks (3pm commentary)

Championship
Blackburn Rovers v Wolverhampton Wanderers - Mike Taylor and Daz Hale (5.30pm commentary)

League One
Walsall v Coventry City - Richard Wilford


BBC Coventry & Warwickshire

Clive Eakin presenting BBC Coventry & Warwickshire Sport: The Sky Blues Live from the Banks's Stadium

League One
Walsall v Coventry City - Martin Winch and Clive Eakin (3pm commentary, also on Sky Blues Player)

National League North
Nuneaton Town v Boston United - Dave Sharpe (via phone)

Rugby Union: National League One
Hull Ionians v Coventry - John Butler (via phone)

The usual duo of Dale Moon and Mick Kearns are commentating on Walsall v Coventry City for Saddlers Player. Mick is back after a week-long break, with Simon Osborn (Gillingham) and Darren Wrack (Swindon Town) having sat in for him during the past two games.
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Old 29-10-2016, 18:33
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Mick Lowes absent once again on BBC Newcastle. They had Simon Pryde at Preston v Newcastle. Wonder what's happening behind the scenes there?


Sunderland v Arsenal - Nick Barnes and Gary Bennett
Preston v Newcastle - Simon Pryde and John Anderson

Studio - Chris Sykes
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Old 29-10-2016, 22:02
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BBC Radio Scotland Sportsound, 29/10/16

Presented by Richard Gordon from Pittodrie.

Scottish Premiership
Aberdeen v Celtic (noon) - Liam McLeod, Willie Miller and Pat Bonner (810MW commentary) with Chris McLaughlin pitchside
Inverness CT v Hearts - Rob Maclean and Craig Paterson (810MW commentary) with Martin Dowden pitchside

Open All Mics (92-95FM/103.5-105FM)

Scottish Premiership
Hamilton Accies v Dundee - Chick Young (Paul Mitchell conducting post-match interviews)
Inverness CT v Hearts - Barry Wilson (Martin Dowden)
Motherwell v Ross County - Charlie Mann (Jonathan Sutherland)
St Johnstone v Partick Thistle - Allan Preston (John Barnes)

Scottish Championship
Dundee Utd v Falkirk - Scott Davie
Hibernian v St Mirren - Tam McManus (Brian McLaughlin)
Raith Rovers v Queen of the South (5.15pm) - Sandra Brown
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Old 30-10-2016, 00:43
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CL is Chris Latchem, who indeed is also on Final Score
Thanks, I have heard him before so should have realised, never mind

EDIT: 5Live Sport are still using the old school theme music which is great
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:22
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Something for The Difference to elaborate on later, but Wm so far today is :

9am Daz Hale with Early Kick Off Brum Derby Special

The actual commentary is split depending on whether you're a Blues or Villa fan.

Blues commentary with Franksy on 95.6, while Dicky Wilford is giving the Villa perspective on Dab.
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Old 30-10-2016, 10:39
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I was at a football match yesterday. Has anybody got yesterday's IRN reporters?
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:05
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Saturday 29th October - talkSPORT 2

Dan Windle presented La Liga Live alongside Alvaro Romero

La Liga
Atletico Madrid v Malaga - Will Gavin and Clive Walker (5.30pm commentary)
Barcelona v Granada - Adam Bridge and Matt Lawrence (7.45pm commentary)

Alvaro Romero, who is talkSPORT Live's Spanish language editor, joined Dan between the commentaries to discuss the weekend action in La Liga generally. I'm guessing the coverage must have started after Matchday Live 2 at around 5.15pm, given that Dan was commentating on a game for talkSPORT Live.

A couple of things I missed from the details I posted yesterday...

talkSPORT Live

Premier League
Crystal Palace v Liverpool - TBA
Dan Wheeler and Matt Lawrence were talkSPORT Live's commentary team on Crystal Palace v Liverpool.

BBC WM 95.6

BBC WM 95.6 Sport presented by Paul Franks from the Hawthorns (2-5.15pm) and Daz Hale from Ewood Park (5.15-8pm)

Championship
Blackburn Rovers v Wolverhampton Wanderers - Mike Taylor and Daz Hale (5.30pm commentary)
Mike Taylor was actually with Mel Eves for BBC WM's commentary on Blackburn v Wolves. Mel then co-hosted the post-match phone-in with Daz Hale, who presented from 5.15pm.

I'll post yesterday's Irish national radio details, including the IRN reporters Ian F has requested, as well as today's talkSPORT and BBC WM details a little later on.
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:11
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Mick Lowes absent once again on BBC Newcastle. They had Simon Pryde at Preston v Newcastle. Wonder what's happening behind the scenes there?


Sunderland v Arsenal - Nick Barnes and Gary Bennett
Preston v Newcastle - Simon Pryde and John Anderson

Studio - Chris Sykes
Interesting as Matthew Raisbeck is usually the stand in commentator. Paul Dixon covered Gateshead v Wrexham and Barry HIndson was at Morpeth Town v Newton Aycliffe.
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Old 30-10-2016, 14:42
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Interesting as Matthew Raisbeck is usually the stand in commentator. Paul Dixon covered Gateshead v Wrexham and Barry HIndson was at Morpeth Town v Newton Aycliffe.
I didn't hear any of the commentary yesterday but I am pleased to hear Simon Pryde did it, he is a good commentator and I would like to hear him commentating more often.

As for Mick Lowes, I thought it was health reasons as to why he misses matches fairly regularly?
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