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Old 29-06-2016, 12:24
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Aww, I agree, OP. I see her insecurities and she really does care. I know she's still trying to figure out how deal with it all. She often comments on how Evelyn has a much better body, and I think she probably has some body issues which is absurd to outsiders. I feel for her. I think she lashes out because she does have feelings and she has a fear of losing this man who adores her. Irrational? Yes. But she's still young. I find Emma and her self-righteousness far more offensive. Her and her ditzy twin are all, nature nature nature..... But chemicals are okay for boob implants, yay! Very superficial and vain. I know we're only shown a little bit from each day, so all with a grain of salt, but give me Georgina over Emma any day!
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Old 29-06-2016, 12:35
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Aww, I agree, OP. I see her insecurities and she really does care. I know she's still trying to figure out how deal with it all. She often comments on how Evelyn has a much better body, and I think she probably has some body issues which is absurd to outsiders. I feel for her. I think she lashes out because she does have feelings and she has a fear of losing this man who adores her. Irrational? Yes. But she's still young. I find Emma and her self-righteousness far more offensive. Her and her ditzy twin are all, nature nature nature..... But chemicals are okay for boob implants, yay! Very superficial and vain. I know we're only shown a little bit from each day, so all with a grain of salt, but give me Georgina over Emma any day!
Oh like, yeeeah, like, I so like agree with you, yeah. we obviously like pick up the same energy like, errr yeah, like.
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Old 29-06-2016, 12:40
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But the moth!!! Please call the vet!!!!
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Old 29-06-2016, 12:45
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I realky have a feeling she'll get saved ☺☺☺
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Old 29-06-2016, 12:56
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I quite like georgina but I don't want to see any more of the showmance. Jackson gets on my nerves. Georgina would be better without him.
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Old 29-06-2016, 13:06
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I understand why people don't , but I have liked her from day one.

Every time she goes off on one I have been thinking "stop" - it's cringeworthy and annoying, and I wouldn't like it in the house.

I still like her though - sorry
I think that's the key to it: you liked her before there was any good reason based on her time in the house to like her. So it must be about something else, such as her looks (which can influence people in subtle ways they aren't necessarily conscious of).

Also, that you liked her before there was any good reason based on her time in the house may explain why her behaviour in the house hasn't turned you against her. The liking wasn't because of things like that, so it isn't destroyed by them either.

I don't think it would take much for Georgina to become popular again. All she has to do is become more positive and cheerful and smile, the infatuation with her will return, and the edit will be blamed for her having seemed unpleasant and miserable.

That phenomenon could already be seen in miniature during the brief live feed last Friday, with people smitten by how she looked when she smiled (even though she didn't actually look very different).
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Old 29-06-2016, 13:11
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Aww, I agree, OP. I see her insecurities and she really does care. I know she's still trying to figure out how deal with it all. She often comments on how Evelyn has a much better body, and I think she probably has some body issues which is absurd to outsiders. I feel for her. I think she lashes out because she does have feelings and she has a fear of losing this man who adores her. Irrational? Yes. But she's still young. I find Emma and her self-righteousness far more offensive. Her and her ditzy twin are all, nature nature nature..... But chemicals are okay for boob implants, yay! Very superficial and vain. I know we're only shown a little bit from each day, so all with a grain of salt, but give me Georgina over Emma any day!
Sure, Georgina's bitching about Evelyn -- which started literally on Day 1 -- just has to be because of Georgina's insecurities, so that it isn't really a reason to think less of Georgina ... it's a reason to have great sympathy for her instead!

NO other HM is getting that sort of extreme benefit of the doubt this year, and the mystery is why Georgina's getting it.
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Old 29-06-2016, 13:16
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I liked her. She really needs someone to take her to one side and tell her exactly how she is coming across. Alex nearly did it yesterday when he told her she was being bitchy but he didnt continue.
Any other HM who needed someone to tell her how she's coming across would be criticised for lacking self-awareness. But for Georgina, it functions as a reason to be sympathetic and to like her instead.

I like her too. She is desperately insecure and has such low self esteem that she makes some dreadful choices. She bitches about others as she finds them intimidating.

She is terrified that Jackson will be attracted to Evelyn and dump her on TV. On Taking New York, her boyfriend had a thing with an Australian girl. Interesting...

Just as an interesting aside Jackson's child's mother looks quite like Georgina facially but with very slender tattooed body of Evelyn.

Anyway, I would love for someone to give Georgina some non-threatening advice about how people perceive her but I think she would see it as an attack. I don't think she finds making or recognising friends easy.
I think that's very questionable. Georgina has been bitching about Evelyn since Day 1, and many of the things Georgina says when bitching about Evelyn are standard lines used to attack HMs and undermine them with other HMs and with viewers. It looks a lot more like tactics to me than it does like a genuine result of insecurities.
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Old 29-06-2016, 13:33
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I understand why people don't , but I have liked her from day one.

Every time she goes off on one I have been thinking "stop" - it's cringeworthy and annoying, and I wouldn't like it in the house.

I still like her though - sorry
I don't mind her at all OP ,I'm not Liking any of them very much this year ,but i'd rather a few others were out before Georgina ,There's a few I dislike a lot more than her
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Old 29-06-2016, 13:34
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I hope Georgina can survive friday, there's worse female's in that house.
shes had a bad week, but i hope she can pull it around.
I cant think of any girl in the house who is a better housemate than her.
I agree. Emma, Laura and Evelyn are just irritated that G has first dibs on one of the two young available men and Alex is not paying any attention to them. The other men are older or gay.
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Old 29-06-2016, 13:39
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I understand why people don't , but I have liked her from day one.

Every time she goes off on one I have been thinking "stop" - it's cringeworthy and annoying, and I wouldn't like it in the house.

I still like her though - sorry
Sorry, but I agree !!!
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Old 29-06-2016, 13:42
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I think she'll probably go (the Evelyn stuff, her and Jackson's reaction to being nominated), but I still quite like her.
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Old 29-06-2016, 13:50
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I agree with a lot of the posters here. I don't think Georgina is acting spoiled or entitled at all. That implies high self-esteem and I think it's pretty clear she has low self-esteem.

I don't think either her or Jackson are playing any games or doing anything for show purposes.

It seems to me that Georgina has had a track record of betrayal from guys and is having a hard time getting her head around the possibility that Jackson isn't like that.

I think she's shown some behaviour that isn't ideal but I think she's on a learning curve and I think it's a lovely thing to see between them that could do her a lot of good.

I'm really sad to see the polls and the odds on here for her being the one to go. I hope it doesn't happen because I find her pretty fascinating right now.
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:06
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I agree. Emma, Laura and Evelyn are just irritated that G has first dibs on one of the two young available men and Alex is not paying any attention to them. The other men are older or gay.
That's an extremely simplistic and one-sided view of the situation. All three have shown more compassion, insight and intelligence than Georgina. She's just a spoiled brat.
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:19
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I agree with a lot of the posters here. I don't think Georgina is acting spoiled or entitled at all. That implies high self-esteem and I think it's pretty clear she has low self-esteem. ...
No it isn't. The belief that she has low self-esteem is functioning as a way to turn her unpleasant behaviour into a reason to have sympathy for her instead. Because someone as wonderful as Georgina couldn't possibly be a poisonous, entitled, jealous, or tactical rhymes-with. Just look into those lovely eyes! Surely she deserves our sympathy and help!

I don't think either her or Jackson are playing any games or doing anything for show purposes.

It seems to me that Georgina has had a track record of betrayal from guys and is having a hard time getting her head around the possibility that Jackson isn't like that.

I think she's shown some behaviour that isn't ideal but I think she's on a learning curve and I think it's a lovely thing to see between them that could do her a lot of good.

I'm really sad to see the polls and the odds on here for her being the one to go. I hope it doesn't happen because I find her pretty fascinating right now.
Fascinating! Complex! Another Rachel or Aisleyne, for which we've waited so long!
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:22
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I agree with a lot of the posters here. I don't think Georgina is acting spoiled or entitled at all. That implies high self-esteem and I think it's pretty clear she has low self-esteem.

I don't think either her or Jackson are playing any games or doing anything for show purposes.

It seems to me that Georgina has had a track record of betrayal from guys and is having a hard time getting her head around the possibility that Jackson isn't like that.

I think she's shown some behaviour that isn't ideal but I think she's on a learning curve and I think it's a lovely thing to see between them that could do her a lot of good.

I'm really sad to see the polls and the odds on here for her being the one to go. I hope it doesn't happen because I find her pretty fascinating right now.
Good post, and very much how I feel.
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:22
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I agree. Emma, Laura and Evelyn are just irritated that G has first dibs on one of the two young available men and Alex is not paying any attention to them. The other men are older or gay.
Yes, far from Georgina being jealous, her jealous, spiteful behaviour must be because Emma, Laura and Evelyn are jealous instead! They're really the horrible ones, and Georgina their innocent victim!
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:24
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I agree with a lot of the posters here. I don't think Georgina is acting spoiled or entitled at all. That implies high self-esteem and I think it's pretty clear she has low self-esteem.

I don't think either her or Jackson are playing any games or doing anything for show purposes.

It seems to me that Georgina has had a track record of betrayal from guys and is having a hard time getting her head around the possibility that Jackson isn't like that.

I think she's shown some behaviour that isn't ideal but I think she's on a learning curve and I think it's a lovely thing to see between them that could do her a lot of good.

I'm really sad to see the polls and the odds on here for her being the one to go. I hope it doesn't happen because I find her pretty fascinating right now.
bit in bold - Her reaction to being nominated, her telling Jackson to stay away from Evelyn and her similar dismissal of any friendship with Emma all completely debunk the theory that Georgina's horrendous behaviour is down to 'low self-esteem'.

She was absolutely gobsmacked to be nominated. That's how highly she thinks of herself. She thinks, that for HER sake, one of her fellow hms should ignore another - because SHE hates her. That's how highly she thinks of herself. She doesn't like Emma calling her out on her bitching, so she's not going to be friends with Emma and doesn't give a good god-damn if that makes Emma feel isolated. That's how highly she thinks of herself.

Low self-esteem my arse.
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:26
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I think that's the key to it: you liked her before there was any good reason based on her time in the house to like her. So it must be about something else, such as her looks (which can influence people in subtle ways they aren't necessarily conscious of).

Also, that you liked her before there was any good reason based on her time in the house may explain why her behaviour in the house hasn't turned you against her. The liking wasn't because of things like that, so it isn't destroyed by them either.

I don't think it would take much for Georgina to become popular again. All she has to do is become more positive and cheerful and smile, the infatuation with her will return, and the edit will be blamed for her having seemed unpleasant and miserable.

That phenomenon could already be seen in miniature during the brief live feed last Friday, with people smitten by how she looked when she smiled (even though she didn't actually look very different).
I'm a straight female, so her looks don't come into it all.
I liked her from day 1 because she seemed a bit different from the carbon copy women that we get every year - your Lauras and your Evelyns. I felt from her VT that she seemed a little bit insecure, and seeing her behaviour in the house has led me to believe my first instincts were correct.
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:27
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Good post, and very much how I feel.
It's how you have to feel, because it's the only way to turn Georgina's unpleasant behaviour into a reason to feel sympathy for her instead.

As so often when it comes to BB, what people say makes more sense if seen as backwards. Instead of those things (her supposedly low self-esteem and fascinating whatever) being causes of liking her, or feeling sympathy, the liking came first (causes unknown), and then affects how she is perceived. Liking her calls forth the perception of depth in things that don't actually warrant it. This phenomenon has been seen again and again over the years.
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:28
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It's how you have to feel, because it's the only way to turn Georgina's unpleasant behaviour into a reason to feel sympathy for her instead.

As so often when it comes to BB, what people say makes more sense if seen as backwards. Instead of those things (her supposedly low self-esteem and fascinating whatever) being causes of liking her, or feeling sympathy, the liking came first (causes unknown), and then affects how she is perceived. Liking her calls forth the perception of depth in things that don't actually warrant it. This phenomenon has been seen again and again over the years.
Completely agree. She was one of my favourites on night one and - kudos, Veri - you were the only poster I remember who didn't join the Georgina love-in from the first night.

As the days went on, however, I saw that Georgina is what she is, an entitled, controlling, unpleasant little brat.
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:33
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I'm a straight female, so her looks don't come into it all.
How's that supposed to work? There are lots of ways women can react to another woman's looks. Besides, looks was only an example.

I liked her from day 1 because she seemed a bit different from the carbon copy women that we get every year - your Lauras and your Evelyns. I felt from her VT that she seemed a little bit insecure, and seeing her behaviour in the house has led me to believe my first instincts were correct.
Seemed a bit different based on what? Her Day 1 bitching about Evelyn? That she didn't seem to have had work done on her body? (Or would that be "looks"?) That she'd already been in a reality show?

How does stereotyping other women turn into liking Georgina? Like this: There wasn't anything evident on Day 1 that was a good reason to like Georgina, but comparative liking can be created by lowering opinions of other women instead.
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:37
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No it isn't. The belief that she has low self-esteem is functioning as a way to turn her unpleasant behaviour into a reason to have sympathy for her instead. Because someone as wonderful as Georgina couldn't possibly be a poisonous, entitled, jealous, or tactical rhymes-with. Just look into those lovely eyes! Surely she deserves our sympathy and help!
It's clear to me. If you aren't as perspicacious as I am, I can't help you

For the record, I don't find her particularly attractive at all and she's not my favourite housemate (right now my top three are Laura, Jackson and Jason).


Fascinating! Complex! Another Rachel or Aisleyne, for which we've waited so long!
I wish
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:52
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How's that supposed to work? There are lots of ways women can react to another woman's looks. Besides, looks was only an example.
but "looks" is the only example you gave and since Moomin has comprehensively disproved that your only reposte is to say there are "lots of ways" but without giving a single other one?
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Old 29-06-2016, 14:52
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It's clear to me. ...
Because you're a mind-reader, I suppose.

For the record, I don't find her particularly attractive at all and she's not my favourite housemate (right now my top three are Laura, Jackson and Jason).
Do you find them fascinating too?
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