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Hollyoaks Holly - Can she be redeemed?
Holly used to be my favourite character in Hollyoaks and i absolutely adored her and Jason as a couple as well as her relationships with Dirk, Cindy and Cleo. For a long time i was vocal about how underused she was and how much i wanted the character to be developed in her own right. Now i wish they had never bothered and wish they'd kept to their 'teenage drama of the week' storylines she tended to get.
Ever since the dreadful affair with Robbie where she morphed into this sour, lying, unpleasant girl that i actually stopped watching the show (there were hundreds of other reasons but ruining Holly was the main one) and still haven't returned purely because from the articles, forum opinions and spoilers i do read about her my opinion just gets lower and lower of the character. I keep hoping they'll come up with an amazing storyline arc for her (Cleo's just had one, even Jade's got one by all accounts and i found her to be a bit of a non-enitity) but Holly seems have been used as a plot device in everything to garner sympathy for Jason, Robbie, Nathan or Cleo and i'm left wondering why anyone (viewers mainly) are supposed to like her when shes written so unsympathetically. I know Hollyoaks have stopped character development and everything now focuses on the next big plot twist and characters are changed on a whim but i feel like Holly's been utilised incredibly badly and that her popularity probably couldn't get any lower with fans. Is there anyway back for her or is she just beyond repair now? Personally i'd like to see her redeemed as i'd love to get back into the show but everything i read recently puts me off doing so. I'd like to see her involved in a relationship with someone older (going purely on looks as i've not seen anything of him on screen, but Adam Donovan and Holly possibly) but also possibly seeing her inherit (not sure thats the right term) her mothers bi-polar (only if done 100 times better than Cindy's awful portrayal of an over sexed, wide eyed crazy person) or basically just anything where the viewers can relate and even feel sorry for her again. Amanda Clapham is quite good but even she can't make the dud storylines shes involved in endear anyone to Holly and she must be bored of the 'i've got a huge guilty secret i can't tell anyone about' look she has had to pull for nearly a whole year now. Sorry for the long post. Just wondered what everyone else thought. Is she beyond saving? Could they still bring her back to popularity or has the damage been done?
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As a person? Not yet. As a character? I think this is just the beginning. All these mistakes she keeps making and feeling bad about. I wouldn't be surprised if they're going to have her become a mini Cindy and start actually enjoying being a bitch.
I could definitely see her having a fling with Warren when he turns up. |
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No I don't think there is any saving Holly, she is a total hypocrite and my dislike started when she had no sympathy for her mother's mental health issues, I get that Cindy was going after Jason but once she realized it was due to her being off her meds Holly should have been more understanding, then all the other stuff made me hate her even more. I honestly think Holly is the least sympathetic character on the show and I hope Silas returns and kills her.
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TBH I don't think she has been written as unsympathetic or unredeemable during this crash storyline at all. I did think she was when she was having the affair with Robbie though.
Although I can't say I think its right that Cleo covered for her, she's been a great friend for Cleo in the last few weeks and we can see that she's struggled with causing Rachel's death. Of course, it was kind of beyond deplorable that she started a relationship with Nathan but I think that's something the audience will probably forget eventually. Personally, the one thing that has really irritated me about it is that Hollyoaks have, yet again, decided there has to be no consequences for someone breaking the law and causing a death. In what world does someone just decide that the person that killed his fiance should get off? Er, no. They used the Cleo thing as an excuse for it but I don't buy it. Given what Cleo has been going through, i'm quite certain she could have avoided prison. And the police know it was a lie. Its on public record. They turned up as she was confessing to drinking and driving but cause Pervy MacLawyer quotes some law reference number they just let her go! I think not. How many charcters in Hollyoaks now have been let off for committing serious crimes. I can think of: Holly, Mercedes, Sienna, Sally and Cameron. I'm sure there's more. That's not even including the crimes that haven't been found out about yet or swept under the rug i.e. Nico's murderous ways, Ste's violence and drug use, Grace's various crimes, Kim's stalking and covering for Lindsey. Celine's attempted murder of Pete. Cindy's bigamy and Sonia's identity fraud. Plus Maxine and Darren hiding Patrick's body. |
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No! The character is despicable and the actress playing her can't act.
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No! The character is despicable and the actress playing her can't act.
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One of the soap mags hinted something will happen between her and
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One of the soap mags hinted something will happen between her and
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Just wait when she saves that puppy
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I used to like Holly but I don't now. The affair pretty much ruined any sympathy I had for her and since then starting up a relationship with Nathan and allowing Cleo to cover for her have only put me off her even more.
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Six months on and her popularity is still at an all time low. When Bryan Kirkwood announced that Nick and Holly's relationship would involve 'sexual coercion' (saw the artice on soapsquawk but no where else strangely) i thought that sounded like a decent storyline arc for her and that if written well it may give the character the development she so badly needs and may even see her popularity rise again (i'm pretty sure she was quite popular once upon a time). I still can't bring myself to tune back in again though as by all accounts (tonights episode seeming to cause a right Holly hating storm), as she's clearly still the plot device for Ellie's storyline and by the sounds of it is still being written incredibly poorly. She seems to have been given the Diane treatment.
Maybe i'm judging too early and Nick's behaviour towards her might turn darker and there may be a bigger storyline lying in wait for her, but so far it just seems same old same old with her, the unpleasant plot device so everyone else seems more likeable and sympathetic. If anything there's been no sign of any real coercion from him (admittedly only going on spoilers, articles, opinions on here etc), in fact Holly seems to have a reputation now for being a bit easy so wouldn't need much coercing. Again this might be building up to no one believing her if Nick does go to far but considering how little consideration producers have taken with the character the last three years i'd be surprised if it's actually leading anywhere where Holly's concerned. Will we ever get the nice pre-Robbie Holly back or is this vacuous, quite obnoxious Holly here to stay purely because the producers don't care whether she's popular or not? I thought after being so quiet since the crash reveal they might have been trying to turn her around slowly but judging by the opinions i keep reading they've got no intention of making her likeable and watchable again in a hurry. It's very frustrating. |
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The Robbie storyline was dreadful and not convining at all and ruined both characters but I don't think Holly was a particulary nice character before that storyline, particulary when she accused Dodger of rape.
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I don't think she can be redeemed. Not after killing someone and then leaving her best mate to take the blame.
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I think the sexual coercion might still come in the future. Ellie told Dirk about Nick and Holly because she is worried that Nick will hurt someone else; but Holly thinks Ellie is jealous and trying to win Nick back. It's likely he will try something with Holly so he can get his comeuppance (since she wouldn't believe the truth if Ellie told her) and/or in order to have him get with Tegan (who's waiting in the wings, and the publicity hinted he might try to abuse her too)
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I think the sexual coercion might still come in the future. Ellie told Dirk about Nick and Holly because she is worried that Nick will hurt someone else; but Holly thinks Ellie is jealous and trying to win Nick back. It's likely he will try something with Holly so he can get his comeuppance (since she wouldn't believe the truth if Ellie told her) and/or in order to have him get with Tegan (who's waiting in the wings, and the publicity hinted he might try to abuse her too)
Anyway, Holly - played by Wallis Day at the time - was subjected to a really horrific ordeal in that. A male character, who was friends with the girl who killed Callum, forced her to pose for him in pornographic images. He threatened her and wouldn't let her leave. It was horrible, she was crying and he was taking pictures of her. Thankfully, Theresa McQueen eventually interupted - and then I think Callum accidently killed that boy before getting killed himself. Point is, that seems to have been completely forgotten now. Holly herself has been canonically victimised by a sexual predator. The episode in which Ellie's rape took place, Holly also made a comment to Cleo about the importance of consent and she constantly pleaded with Cleo to see Pete for what he was. With that in mind, I think i'm going to find it quite hard to swallow if Holly completely dismisses Ellie's claims. In last night's e4, they has Tegan not even question Nick's version of events. I know she's not exactly popular, but I thought that was character assassination for the sake of plot. She's a nurse ffs, surely she'd be more aware than most about the issue of consent. Also, she is a mother of a daughter and an aunt to Peri. I find it extremely difficult to believe she would be that easily persuaded without so much as a flicker of doubt. If they do the same with Holly i'm going to be fuming tbh. I really hope this will be the redemption arc that Holly needs and that she is willing to listen to what Ellie is saying. |
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