I watched BB for the first time since Prince Marco left and it's easy to see why people dont get her. She is a sweet girl deep down it's just that I suspect she was not shown a lot of affection growing up. Remember she said no one has been nice to her like Jackson had been. She was not just talking about BF but everyone. She is being defensive and rightly so.

She needs time, she is sort of girl who once she is on your side will give everything to you. I can see the attraction in her and so can Jackson.

There is absolutely nothing in Georgina's behaviour you can point to that supports that presumption ... outside of your imagination

I agree that Georgina acts in the way she does sometimes as a result of vulnerability and I think she might be good deep down. But that doesn't excuse the way she treats other people - they are still hurt by her actions.

Lot of her defenders are able to empathize with her because they can understand why she acts that way and what causes it. But again it's still no justification.

You can't be miserable, bully people, be super controlling, then justify it because "no one has been nice to me before ". It might help explain why she feels the need to do all those things - but she still has to make a conscious decision to put those thoughts into action and treat people the way she is treating them.

It's like in primary school where people would say that bully's only bully because they come from a bad home/were bullied themselves in the past etc. It might be true - but it doesn't make the bully's actions any less bad or hurtful.

You know this how?

I see her as spoilt, expects things her way. She shows no normal signs of it being a new relationship where you are normally trying to impress and happy.

She says Jackson treats her better than other men, this doesn't surprise me as most would run a mile being treated like that. She also isn't as naive as she makes out judging by their night time antics on TV.

"Georgina is misunderstood" yeah, like Helen Wood was ......

2 words/ bunny boiler

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Dont bite.........................

She is a deeply insecure damaged young woman, and is profoundly unhappy. She can't hope to attract into her life someone who will not reflect all of those things back to her whilst she is in that state. Jackson is a perfect mirror for her. But she still refuses to learn, and grow. As long as this is the case, she will continue to attract man after man like jackson.

Is it any wonder Georgina has "never had anyone love her" before? She's a nightmare girlfriend! Bossy, demanding, and belittling.

"Just don't talk to her"
"You look better without the hat"
"Take that shit off your face"
"Can you just brush your teeth and come to bed"
"DON'T. YOU. DARE"

Most of the time people are this way for no reason. There is a lot of pain there behind her actions. I don't understand how people can't see that. Yes she is deeply unpleasant, but there is a lot of pain there causing it. People will disregard that though, because they simply do not like her.

I am surprised anyone is being nice about this girl, she is a self centred spoiled brat and if Jackson puts up with it he deserves all he gets!

I see. Well personally, I don't disregard it, but I also don't see it as an excuse to her awful behaviour.

It's like saying "I'm allowed to be a complete bitch because I'm insecure and damaged, and it's all your fault you're making me act like this because I don't know how to deal with someone being nice to me"

WTF? No sympathy from me. She's just a bad egg. Get rid.

I'm exhibiting compassion based upon what I can see. But that does not mean her behavior is healthy, acceptable, or right. But as human beings, we do what we feel is right to avoid pain in the moment. Ir: her controlling, ways. No one is perfect.

After my last relationship with a damaged girl, if I encounter another one, there is NO WAY in hell I'll ever date another damaged girl. But I can still have compassion for these people, even if I refuse to allow them into my space. If yo allow them into your space, they will most likely do you harm. But Jackson is an absolute brute, he is ****ed up and toxic in a way that will reflect all of Georgina's toxic bhaviors and thoughts back to her, and then she will continue to slate men thinking that they are the issue, never really taking a look at herself and examining why she seems to attract the same guy over and over again.

Why is that the first thing that people jump to? I will never tell anyone to excuse another person's behavior just because they are, in their own right, also a victim. But it is important in life to try to understand other people, and why they do what they do, or why they perceive the world the way that they do. It's like our prison systems, which are punishment based. There is little trying to understand and then trying to rehabilitate, or fix the system/enviroments that inspired the crimes in the first place. It is just about punishment because people are angry and want retribution. Then when these criminals are released into society they are worse off because they were not assisted in any way. They were punished, and then we moan when people re-offend.

Very rarely is it as simple as people just being bad eggs. There is a reason why people are the way they are - a reason why people engage in detrimental and damaging behaviors. But because people are often put off by the outward behavior, people just condemn, and that is where it starts and ends.

I respect what you're saying, but I have a different view entirely that I'm sure you'd hate for me to expand on as you might find it upsetting or enraging...as I would yours, I'm sure

Though I am liberal, I'm not a part of this regressive left movement that howls about equality and then shuts people completely down for their stance on things. Your opinion does not have the weight to enrage me, nor should mine you. My goal when I talk to others is to promote understanding, not to win or make others look stupid. But I find that other people often do not want to get to the bottom of things, or understand why someone or something may be the way it is. If we promote understanding we have a better platform to prevent things from happening in the future, in a more effective way. They just want to write thing off, and then we complain when nothing changes and things get worse.

I am not saying that there aren't those who are just bad eggs. But the majority aren't just bad eggs. They are a product of their enviroment and experiences in a massive way. Just casting them aside in our minds without examining the truth behind the behavior is detrimental not only to the individual, but to the whole, because we are the ones that have to live amongst and interact with these people, if that makes sense.

This misunderstood excuse is used far too often for HM's that aren't very popular.

everyone has issues, dosnt give them the right to behave like a spoilt madam.

You'll always get it when there are people who have the capacity to look deeper, and those who either don't want to, or it wouldn't occur to them in the first place, or those that just don't care.

Yes, everyone has issues and it does not give people the right to behave like shit heads. But not everyone has the tools to deal with their trauma as effectively as others might. I think it is important to be aware around damaged people, so that you can protect yourself. But just writing them off as spoilt brats when there is clearly something more going on, I don't know if that is very effective or smart.

Of course I understand that Georgina's unpleasant behaviour is probably down to some deep-rooted insecurity, but you can say that for anyone who is unpleasant. No one is pure evil, and I don't believe Georgina is. The fact remains that I like her less than Evelyn, Andy or Jayne, therefore I have voted to evict her.

True dat

I agree.

People keep saying she is "damaged". Have I missed something about why she is damaged? Not having a go - it's a genuine question.

Georgina is misunderstod - BY HERSELF. She lacks selfawarness. Her behaviour is appalling.