Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“I briefly fell into the 'sly' camp the other day, following "whisper-gate", because when I watched it play out on the episode itself it did come heavily across that way - as things sometimes do when they rapidly pass before your eyes without pause.
I saw him sitting in the smoking area discussing with Lateysha the fact she DID think Jason was a game player because Charlie told her, but she couldn't say that during the task because of the fall out that would come from it... Andy himself then replied, "Yes that would be like throwing a hand grenade in the house"...
...he then went off to tell various other people what she'd really said, under the guise of asking their opinion on the matter, before confronting her again - orchestrating a row with her and the fellow whisperers - then heading off to Jason and declaring he now feels he should just tell him everything because 'the way they just spoke to me I owe them no loyalty' - so he told him that Lateysha had already said earlier he was a game player and that when she said it in the task she obviously meant it. He then stopped just short of confirming Charlie had been the one who put the idea in her head, despite Jason angling for the information and instead informed him he should go and talk to Lateysha.... And thus the handgrenade he himself had predicted had its pin pulled and Lateysha was left holding it. BOOM!!!!!
...see, even typing all that it now it seems incredibly machievellian. It was only because I went back and watched it in segments in order to do a transcript (it's knocking about somewhere on this board) that I came to the conclusion it was nothing of the sort. He had a slightly broader concern that was troubling him, based on the fact he himself had been misinterpreted due to Chinese whispers, that he was trying to bring to ahead. But when it all zips by on the screen and everyone shouting over the top of each other it kind of becomes lost and you just end up with the surface level interpretation, which is the one I've highlighted above.
I'm not quite sure what I'm saying here... I guess it's that I'm not surprised at all people think he's sly. I don't think he is, but I think he's spectacularly bad at getting his point across.”
“I briefly fell into the 'sly' camp the other day, following "whisper-gate", because when I watched it play out on the episode itself it did come heavily across that way - as things sometimes do when they rapidly pass before your eyes without pause.
I saw him sitting in the smoking area discussing with Lateysha the fact she DID think Jason was a game player because Charlie told her, but she couldn't say that during the task because of the fall out that would come from it... Andy himself then replied, "Yes that would be like throwing a hand grenade in the house"...
...he then went off to tell various other people what she'd really said, under the guise of asking their opinion on the matter, before confronting her again - orchestrating a row with her and the fellow whisperers - then heading off to Jason and declaring he now feels he should just tell him everything because 'the way they just spoke to me I owe them no loyalty' - so he told him that Lateysha had already said earlier he was a game player and that when she said it in the task she obviously meant it. He then stopped just short of confirming Charlie had been the one who put the idea in her head, despite Jason angling for the information and instead informed him he should go and talk to Lateysha.... And thus the handgrenade he himself had predicted had its pin pulled and Lateysha was left holding it. BOOM!!!!!
...see, even typing all that it now it seems incredibly machievellian. It was only because I went back and watched it in segments in order to do a transcript (it's knocking about somewhere on this board) that I came to the conclusion it was nothing of the sort. He had a slightly broader concern that was troubling him, based on the fact he himself had been misinterpreted due to Chinese whispers, that he was trying to bring to ahead. But when it all zips by on the screen and everyone shouting over the top of each other it kind of becomes lost and you just end up with the surface level interpretation, which is the one I've highlighted above.
I'm not quite sure what I'm saying here... I guess it's that I'm not surprised at all people think he's sly. I don't think he is, but I think he's spectacularly bad at getting his point across.”
That is EXACTLY how I feel about him, especially bib. I started out really liking Andy but that situation the other day had me wondering. I don't think he's sly - as you say he's truly bad at getting his point across, not helped by the fact that some of them don't really want to take the time to try and understand him.
I do think that one of Andy's biggest problems is boredom, to be honest! He really doesn't know what to do with himself and has very little stimulation in there, beyond the tasks and occasional chats with those he does get on with.
Jason really does seem to get him. I felt very sorry for him last night and, unlike some, do not think those tears were fake at all. That was some sobbing he was doing.
I did indeed completely misinterpret what he said at the time. I only understood it after he'd explained it to the morons later. At which point I was forced to face the fact I was as bigger moron as them. 
