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Old 30-06-2016, 20:00
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Tonights episode has confirmed it for me more than ever.
She's like a completely different person. I know she hasn't aged well but that's no excuse.
Kim Medcalf was more like the 'original Sam' than Daniella is even though she was the original Sam! So all this poppycock that Daniella should play Sam simply because she's the 'original' is just that, poppycock!
What a crying shame the character has been damaged beyond repair. We won't be seeing her again after this week I'm guessing.
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Old 30-06-2016, 20:02
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She looked rough
Her face looks ravaged, makeup can't hide it
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Old 30-06-2016, 20:02
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Well believe it or not people grow up she isn't a young girl now she is a mature adult so stop complaining and making snobby remarks.
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Old 30-06-2016, 20:04
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It's not age which has affected her looks!
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Old 30-06-2016, 20:11
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Tonights episode has confirmed it for me more than ever.
She's like a completely different person. I know she hasn't aged well but that's no excuse.
Kim Medcalf was more like the 'original Sam' than Daniella is even though she was the original Sam! So all this poppycock that Daniella should play Sam simply because she's the 'original' is just that, poppycock!
What a crying shame the character has been damaged beyond repair. We won't be seeing her again after this week I'm guessing.
She has changed in the last 16 years? Wow what a shock, Not a lot of people are the same person they were in a totally different era
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Old 30-06-2016, 20:12
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I just prefer kim's interpretation..
Danielle just grates on me. It's not her fault but her voice is like chalk on a board to me.
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Old 30-06-2016, 20:14
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She has changed in the last 16 years? Wow what a shock, Not a lot of people are the same person they were in a totally different era
i agree, i was debunking the theory that Kim cant be Sam, where she was actually more like the original Sam.
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Old 30-06-2016, 20:30
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Kim is a decent actress but I always thought she was miscast as Sam - too middle class and with a totally different personality. It was like having another girl with the same name in the square. It's actually a shame that she was supposed to be Sam and not an entirely different character.

I can understand why a lot of people prefer Kim she was pretty, likable, more vulnerable and less abrasive than Daniella but whether you like her or not Daniella is the the original Sam and is more believable as a real member of the Mitchell family. She's not the greatest actress in the world but she is good enough and has always fitted in well with Phil, Grant and Peggy.
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Old 30-06-2016, 20:57
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Err Sam was always a sh*t stirrer and a bit of a bitch.

She treated Ricky like crap during their marriage then tried to snare him from Bianca when she returned from Spain in 1995, pretty much because she was bored. That happened after her relationship with David which she enjoyed flaunting under Bianca, Ricky and Phil & Grant's noses.

Sam was even a bitch when she showed up in 2002, I remember her sparring with Janine for a while and then there was her showing up at Steve Owen's funeral in widow's weeds after having an affair with him.

Very little about Kim's portrayal rang true. Even when they tried to retain the original Sam's personality, Kim was too well spoken and refined to be Sam. She had no chemistry with Peggy, Phil or Grant. Or Ricky who they tried to pair Sam up with again in 2002. Then they changed the character completely in 2004 when she ordered the torching of the snooker hall and Vicky almost died in the club next door. Sam didn't give a shit. That was completely OOC as while Sam could always be a bit of a bitch she wasn't some hard-nosed gangster.

Kim benefitted from Peggy and Phil both leaving the show so the jarring anti-chemistry she had with both stopped being an issue. The changes in Sam about the same time 04- onwards after Phil's departure also helped to make her valid almost as a different character completely. One I found interesting to watch but not Sam Mitchell.

She looked rough
Her face looks ravaged, makeup can't hide it
What does what she looks like have to do with anything? This isn't Hollyoaks.
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Old 30-06-2016, 21:17
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No, but funnily enough people do change.

Her current character fits with the last stint, so that's where she's at now. Twisted, bitter, face like a slapped arse. I quite liked seeing her in it if I'm honest, Daniella can't act for toffee (and she shouldn't be in the limelight at all) but there's something about the rough, gritty, shameless, tarty, Eastender about her, we don't really have that in the show anymore.
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Old 30-06-2016, 21:31
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She did look Rough.
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Old 30-06-2016, 21:40
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It has been over 20 years!

People Change!!

No one stays the same for that amount of time!

Yes she looked rough, and yes we ALL know why, no need to drag it up at every chance.
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Old 30-06-2016, 21:45
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Danniella probably isn't the same as she was in the 90s. Doubt she does drugs now. Doesn't mean she isn't still Danniella though! Lol
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Old 30-06-2016, 22:47
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This is what drugs do to people.
Stay clean kids!
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Old 30-06-2016, 23:04
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Kim is a decent actress but I always thought she was miscast as Sam - too middle class and with a totally different personality. It was like having another girl with the same name in the square. It's actually a shame that she was supposed to be Sam and not an entirely different character.

I can understand why a lot of people prefer Kim she was pretty, likable, more vulnerable and less abrasive than Daniella but whether you like her or not Daniella is the the original Sam and is more believable as a real member of the Mitchell family. She's not the greatest actress in the world but she is good enough and has always fitted in well with Phil, Grant and Peggy.
Very well said. I agree 100%.

Added to that, I actually thought she was pretty good in tonight's episode!
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Old 30-06-2016, 23:39
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In what way completely different - personality or looks?

If it is personality, first thing to remember (and i hate bringing this up as it is so obvious but seems pertinent here) is that Daniella has to perform the lines given. Sam is being written this way, she's acting it. It's possible that if they'd got Kim back 7 years ago, they would have written Sam differently but i actually doubt it as they wanted to tell that particular story (Sam being with Ricky as an obstacle to his reunion with Bianca and falling pregnant to Jack to upset Ronnie) at that time and what we're seeing now carries on from that.

Secondly, Sam was basically quite a nice girl in her first stint but she was sulky, she did used to stir up trouble and was dissatisfied with her life - always wanting more. We're just seeing a magnified version of that now but it is more bitter and twisted as she is now approaching middle age, losing her looks, still unhappy with her lot and knows she hasn't really got much hope of things changing. Plus, the events of her life, including Den's death and being in Prison would logically harden her up somewhat.

Looks wise - well of course she isn't the pretty fresh faced teenager any more. Of course Kim was closer to that as she was only in her twenties when playing the role. As others have said, we all know the real life reason for the change in Westbrook's looks but I don't think it is odd for Sam either. She hasn't had a great life and that will reflect in the face. She's also probably spent too much time in the Sun and drank too much which can be very aging. Plus, she's just 'hardened' up.

I can believe that Sam would be like this 25 years on.

As it happens, i do think Kim was the better actress but Westbrook is okay and i don't see how somebody can say she is less like Sam than Kim now as we have no idea how Kim would play her with the current material.
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Old 30-06-2016, 23:58
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Kim is a decent actress but I always thought she was miscast as Sam - too middle class and with a totally different personality. It was like having another girl with the same name in the square. It's actually a shame that she was supposed to be Sam and not an entirely different character.

I can understand why a lot of people prefer Kim she was pretty, likable, more vulnerable and less abrasive than Daniella but whether you like her or not Daniella is the the original Sam and is more believable as a real member of the Mitchell family. She's not the greatest actress in the world but she is good enough and has always fitted in well with Phil, Grant and Peggy.
This!

alot of it is down to Hating on Daniella
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Old 01-07-2016, 00:02
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In what way completely different - personality or looks?

If it is personality, first thing to remember (and i hate bringing this up as it is so obvious but seems pertinent here) is that Daniella has to perform the lines given. Sam is being written this way, she's acting it. It's possible that if they'd got Kim back 7 years ago, they would have written Sam differently but i actually doubt it as they wanted to tell that particular story (Sam being with Ricky as an obstacle to his reunion with Bianca and falling pregnant to Jack to upset Ronnie) at that time and what we're seeing now carries on from that.

Secondly, Sam was basically quite a nice girl in her first stint but she was sulky, she did used to stir up trouble and was dissatisfied with her life - always wanting more. We're just seeing a magnified version of that now but it is more bitter and twisted as she is now approaching middle age, losing her looks, still unhappy with her lot and knows she hasn't really got much hope of things changing. Plus, the events of her life, including Den's death and being in Prison would logically harden her up somewhat.

Looks wise - well of course she isn't the pretty fresh faced teenager any more. Of course Kim was closer to that as she was only in her twenties when playing the role. As others have said, we all know the real life reason for the change in Westbrook's looks but I don't think it is odd for Sam either. She hasn't had a great life and that will reflect in the face. She's also probably spent too much time in the Sun and drank too much which can be very aging. Plus, she's just 'hardened' up.

I can believe that Sam would be like this 25 years on.

As it happens, i do think Kim was the better actress but Westbrook is okay and i don't see how somebody can say she is less like Sam than Kim now as we have no idea how Kim would play her with the current material.
This is perfect!
Totally agree with every word.

Kim WAS the better actress but Westbrook is the Original, she's played Sam on and off since she was 16 years old. Westbrook is no hollywood actress but she's good enough and fits in well with the rest, and that is the reason they brought her back for the Ricky and Bianca storyline, because it was Westbrook that done that whole era, not Kim.
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:59
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"Go meet the woman who buried your Grandad Denny. Aunty Sams here!"
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:08
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hat's one episode with her in ticked off, how many more before she disappears again for good.
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:50
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hat's one episode with her in ticked off, how many more before she disappears again for good.
2 more.
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:53
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and they will soon be done and dusted, 1 episode was 1 too many.
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Old 01-07-2016, 09:00
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Well believe it or not people grow up she isn't a young girl now she is a mature adult so stop complaining and making snobby remarks.
I don't think its got anything to do with being snobby when someone remarks on her looks though! It's got everything to do with the fact that she's actually damaged herself beyond repair.

Obv noone in their late 30s is going to still look as young, fresh and crisp as a 16 year old, but the way she looks now is not just to do with age, but her lifestyle obviously.

If she was approaching 50, then ok, age is going to inevitably catch up with you depending on your genes and how attractive you are to begin with, but she can only be late 30s early 40s, and I just think she's completely spoilt herself.

And her acting was dreadful as well.
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Old 01-07-2016, 09:03
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I just prefer kim's interpretation..
Danielle just grates on me. It's not her fault but her voice is like chalk on a board to me.
I can't stand her voice either....

The way she sneered at Sharon was just horrible. She should sneer less imo, the more she sneers the worse she looks....

even when she smiles, she still looks bitter and twisted!
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Old 01-07-2016, 09:12
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She was born in late 73 so she is 42.

I do think it is worth remembering here that she was involved in a a very serious accident in the early Noughties in which she suffered severe facial injuries (including a dislocated eye) and needed some reconstructive surgery and that probably hasn't helped her appearance. She was not driving the car and if you look at photos of her straight before this accident (which was after the worst of her drug taking and losing her septum) and then after there is a noticeable difference. So it is not all self inflicted unless you're going to blame her for not being more careful about who drives her around.

I'm not a Daniella Westbrook apologist - she clearly has some deep routed problems which give her a knee jerk reaction to lash out - at others and herself and she can be deeply unpleasant.

Bit if we're examining her life re her looks and blaming her lifestyle*, let's not forget the big thing aside from drugs - which was the car accident.
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