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When was the last time England played with such desire like Wales tonight?? |
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When was the last time England played with such desire like Wales tonight??
Our English national side could learn many lessons from this Welsh side.
A team with half the talent pool/depth and they play twice as good. England's players should be ashamed... Big congrats to Wales. |
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Most of the time. England were awful for so many other reasons.
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You just wait till we stuff Mallta, Wembley will be rocking 😀
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Our English national side could learn many lessons from this Welsh side.
A team with half the talent pool/depth and they play twice as good. England's players should be ashamed... Big congrats to Wales. Englan players should not be ashamed of anything! They crumbled, just like many others have done before. They have a massive mental problem. not a heart problem. |
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What a load of old tosh this thread is, if Wales can keep qualifying for Euros and World Cups for the next 20 years then fair enough, but we could just as easily be on here next summer taking about where it all went wrong for Wales in their World Cup Qualifiers.
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Englan players should not be ashamed of anything!
They crumbled, just like many others have done before. They have a massive mental problem. not a heart problem. |
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A media and public conditioned to tear them apart to the point that they'd be better off never making themselves available for international football in the first place.
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Threads like this do Wales' achievement a discredit. Can't we just appreciate what they've done rather than use it to bash England?
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Shocking From Belgium.
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What Wales have basically proved is how important topping the group is.
England would probably have gone out against France in the quarters anyway, but if they had topped the group, who knows maybe they would have beaten N.Ireland and Belgium. |
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What a load of old tosh this thread is, if Wales can keep qualifying for Euros and World Cups for the next 20 years then fair enough, but we could just as easily be on here next summer taking about where it all went wrong for Wales in their World Cup Qualifiers.
Is the success of Wales - and Iceland, for that matter - at Euro 2016 a rare anomaly or are both they and other hitherto lowly nations now here to stay for subsequent Euros and World Cups? I can't help thinking back to the 2002 World Cup, when you had Senegal, the USA and South Korea all making the quarter finals and none of them have really done a thing in the World Cup since. And what have Greece really done since they won Euro 2004? I suppose we won't start to know until the World Cup qualifying campaign is in full swing. |
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Threads like this do Wales' achievement a discredit. Can't we just appreciate what they've done rather than use it to bash England?
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Wales want to be the next Greece.
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I hear England's next two games are against Asda and Tesco and they may win one of those but dont hold your breath
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You're a few days late for the belting supermarket jokes everyone already made.
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Wales want to be the next Greece.
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Our English national side could learn many lessons from this Welsh side.
A team with half the talent pool/depth and they play twice as good. England's players should be ashamed... Big congrats to Wales. |
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A media and public conditioned to tear them apart to the point that they'd be better off never making themselves available for international football in the first place.
a.) Other teams who are big football nations get teared apart from the media and public as well if they don't perform in a major tournament. b.) England didn't cave in and fall apart against Italy in Euro 2012. |
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I think Wales deserve all the credit they get.Top scorers in the competition.Remember Belgium are rated number two in the world and were completely outplayed.Chris Coleman showed others how to manage brilliant substitution's so do not be surprised if they beat Portugal who would only be a average team without Ronaldo.
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Last time England played with true courage and desire in a tournament was when Beckham got sent off in France 98 the ten men held off Argentina for 70 minutes before going out on pens.
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I think Wales deserve all the credit they get.Top scorers in the competition.Remember Belgium are rated number two in the world and were completely outplayed.Chris Coleman showed others how to manage brilliant substitution's so do not be surprised if they beat Portugal who would only be a average team without Ronaldo.
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It doesn't really add up because;
a.) Other teams who are big football nations get teared apart from the media and public as well if they don't perform in a major tournament. b.) England didn't cave in and fall apart against Italy in Euro 2012. Don't get me wrong though, it's also mostly for football reasons. A lack of organisation and structure, someone said about square pegs and round holes which covers England for at least the past 15 years. |
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A media and public conditioned to tear them apart to the point that they'd be better off never making themselves available for international football in the first place.
How things can change. He and the team had the balls to fight back. This notion that no England manager or team will ever be a success because of the media is, frankly, poppycock ! |
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Threads like this do Wales' achievement a discredit. Can't we just appreciate what they've done rather than use it to bash England?
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Italia 90.
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