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Old 05-07-2016, 21:56
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Quite!
I suspect that no matter which pro Gregg was partnered with, he was scheduled to be out at the first opportunity.
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This was just something to deal with - not a major problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTt_CvWOX4g
When she said "Put it away" she wasn't talking about his sweet tooth, was she
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Old 05-07-2016, 22:13
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I'm really surprised he said that. I don't care all that much for Gregg Wallace but remembered him saying, after elimination, that he never thought he would be so bad, with a wry smile. At the time I thought he went with a good grace and felt some respect.
Now to talk about Aliona not liking him and that he might have done better with someone who did, after all this time, is rather stupid and petty. He's undone all the good will he previously had, .

Stupid idiot.

However it wouldn't surprise me if Aliona didn't like him, there was a previous dancer whom she disliked, and made it obvious. Rav Wilding. He wasn't good either but so what, we've had lots of poor dancers who have been good fun and their partners tried hard with them. Aliona needs to try harder.
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Old 05-07-2016, 23:01
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Gregg very much couldn't do the choreography she gave him.
Very true. It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it....
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Old 06-07-2016, 06:44
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She wasn't the only one. Get over it.
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:25
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What an absolute pillock!!!

Almost straight away he openly spoke how he was desperate to be partnered with Karen, then went on record claiming she wasn't one of the "happy cuddlies" which was bound to offend her.

Plus, Aliona always strikes me as a complete professional, and it was quite clear he was never taking the competition seriously.
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:29
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What an absolute prat!!!

Almost straight away he openly spoke how he was desperate to be partnered with Karen, then went on record claiming she wasn't one of the "happy cuddlies" which was bound to offend her.

Plus, Aliona always strikes me as a complete professional, and it was quite clear he was never taking the competition seriously.
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:35
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He seemed almost certainly early/first boot from the outset. He talked a lot in his 2 weeks about how terrifying he found performing live. Aliona seemed initially surprised and then very supportive trying to help him overcome his nerves
When he was out he said he would miss being with the whole gang but he was glad he would not be doing live TV again
At the time I thought, OK maybe he is exaggerating a little to keep some pride, but fine. It was a good first boot, he tried did not like it and kept some dignity
This just comes over a petulant and childish
My impression of Greg and Aliona during Strictly was similar to yours.

I suspect Aliona was a bit uncomfortable with him to begin with, especially as he'd made it clear he wanted someone else, but once she'd set some ground rules, they both on with it and Aliona helped him.

She'd helped Tony Jacklin, who also went out early as he couldn't dance and didn't have time to develop a relationship with the public. However Aliona and Tony stayed good friends afterwards.

The problem with Greg was he couldn't dance - and he didn't come across well. I wasn't surprised he went out first and it seems odd to start blaming his dance partner after all this time??
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:59
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I'm really surprised he said that. I don't care all that much for Gregg Wallace but remembered him saying, after elimination, that he never thought he would be so bad, with a wry smile. At the time I thought he went with a good grace and felt some respect.
Now to talk about Aliona not liking him and that he might have done better with someone who did, after all this time, is rather stupid and petty. He's undone all the good will he previously had, .

Stupid idiot.

However it wouldn't surprise me if Aliona didn't like him, there was a previous dancer whom she disliked, and made it obvious. Rav Wilding. He wasn't good either but so what, we've had lots of poor dancers who have been good fun and their partners tried hard with them. Aliona needs to try harder.
Aliona and Rav got along well at the start. It was only when results didn't go as well as Rav expected that they disagreed about why that was, and there was friction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB2_LEGUyyA
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Old 06-07-2016, 13:10
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Gregg wasn't actually as incapable a dancer as some people make out.

He did go to Italy for a holiday in the middle of training, which wouldn't have helped.
You can see in the ITT interview that Gregg and Aliona say that he could dance the CCC better than he performed on the show, although it's not clear if Aliona ever managed to get him to the 'not mincing' stage (it didn't look like it on the Show). Also his Charleston training looks reasonable.

Gregg suffered from stage fright and it was a major factor in why he didn't dance to his potential. Aliona was very sympathetic about his stage fright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTuK4CmiRCI
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Old 06-07-2016, 14:10
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Here sir!

I would agree that Aliona didn't exactly love Greg Wallace but I can't really blame her - he was a disgusting letch.
Even if he was the nicest bloke on earth he couldn't dance for toffee thats why he went out first. Silly man.
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Old 06-07-2016, 14:35
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I'm in 2 minds its not her fault that people didn't vote for him but what could be her fault is that she didn't choregoaph routines that would get him to stay for a while and get further up the leaderboard, Gregg can only do the choreography that she gave him
I believe and agree with Monkseals comment below.
Gregg very much couldn't do the choreography she gave him.
Agree totally
It obviously hurt his pride a bit that the public didn't vote for him. I barely remember him on the show but it's not like he would ever have been a contender.

I don't think he was ever considered a contender. SCD didn't portray him well in their VT - that is hardly Alionas fault.
He seemed almost certainly early/first boot from the outset. He talked a lot in his 2 weeks about how terrifying he found performing live. Aliona seemed initially surprised and then very supportive trying to help him overcome his nerves
When he was out he said he would miss being with the whole gang but he was glad he would not be doing live TV again
At the time I thought, OK maybe he is exaggerating a little to keep some pride, but fine. It was a good first boot, he tried did not like it and kept some dignity
This just comes over a petulant and childish
I am surprised that he brought this up now - smacks of someone looking for headlines
and saying something negative about Aliona was sure to gain him those.
I thought more of Gregg Wallace before he came out with this statement, which I agree Sue, is lacking in dignity
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Old 07-07-2016, 17:03
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He was not a very good dancer, didn't really try and endear himself to Aliona (who tells someone they've just met that they're going commando when their trousers split? disgusting!!!) and doesn't have a great reputation with the GBP. That's why he went out.

People vote for

Good dancers
Likeable personalities
Positive/likeable relationships between pro and celeb

Could Aliona have faked the last one? Probably. But I would have been exactly the same in her shoes with Gregg.
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Old 07-07-2016, 18:25
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Pot, kettle, black. I think Gregg is a hypocrite of the highest order. No he was just a bad dancer who didn't really want to be taught. End of.
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Old 08-07-2016, 15:27
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I'm no fan of Gregg's at all but to be fair to him the timing of this (non)story does smack of pre-show build up to me- placed by the PR bods who will fairly ruthlessly use any item, no matter how old or trivial, just to add to the general chatter about the next series. Job done.
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Old 08-07-2016, 16:04
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He's got, a new book and show starting next week - it's a publicity stunt!
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Old 08-07-2016, 18:33
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He was not a very good dancer, didn't really try and endear himself to Aliona (who tells someone they've just met that they're going commando when their trousers split? disgusting!!!) and doesn't have a great reputation with the GBP. That's why he went out.

People vote for

Good dancers
Likeable personalities
Positive/likeable relationships between pro and celeb

Could Aliona have faked the last one? Probably. But I would have been exactly the same in her shoes with Gregg.
I thought after the First Steps video, Aliona and Gregg did have a reasonable working relationship where Aliona was very definitely in charge, but she was teaching him well and from her twitter at the time, was very sympathetic to his stage fright.

Note Aliona saying that she thought it was a good thing that Gregg had been nervous at coming to the first training. Aliona doesn't say things like that without having a very good reason. It's obvious why a lot of people thought Aliona was being very unprofessional in the First Steps video, but she was allocated to work with Gregg because they thought she was the best person to do that job. I think she did that job, and her reputation suffered as part of the process IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZbXj2xj30

Gregg did say that he wanted to earn Aliona's respect and I think he did quite well in that direction during their time together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikdeNRxQJV0

Maybe this latest publicity is just that.

Gregg appeared on Who Do You Think You Are? and I thought he came across very well in the program. It's worth watching.
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Old 08-07-2016, 20:51
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He's got, a new book and show starting next week - it's a publicity stunt!
I was about to add it might otherwise have been some sad hack exploiting the Strictly build up with an old story, but if it's Wallace's self promotion, then he deserves the fresh round of criticisms. But I tend to suspect hacks & PR before contestants- call me sentimental...
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Old 10-07-2016, 08:40
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The deep irony of this is that Greg did not seem to like Aliona much when paired with her! I recall he looked disappointed. So pot, kettle, black comes to mind.
Yes, and just previous to the reveal, Tess asked him if he had his eye on anyone, and he rather creepily replied that he had. Normal people would of course had said something to the effect that he'd feel privileged to have any of them as dance partner.
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Old 18-07-2016, 11:23
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Jimmy Carr regularly takes the mick about Rachel Riley's dancing abilities, I wish John Torode would do the same to Greg Wallace
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Old 19-07-2016, 09:08
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Jimmy Carr regularly takes the mick about Rachel Riley's dancing abilities, I wish John Torode would do the same to Greg Wallace
He knows he'd get a bunch of fives if he did.
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Old 19-07-2016, 19:43
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Even if he was the nicest bloke on earth he couldn't dance for toffee thats why he went out first. Silly man.
Not sure this follows. Let's take Jeremy Vine as a case study...

"Nicest bloke on earth": Check
"Couldn't dance for toffee": Check
"Went out first?" No

I'll leave it there...
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Old 19-07-2016, 20:00
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To be fair to Jeremy, he wasn't actually bottom of the first leaderboard, though - that was Iwan who did go first so it's probably more:
Nicest bloke on earth - check
Couldn't dance for toffee - check
Stayed because even so not the worst with either judges or voters - check.
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