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Georgia May Foote and Giovanni Pernice Appreciation Thread (Part 3)
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Sandy_Andrews
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“I respect your opinion but, as I said, I personally don't think it's doing her any favours at the moment. I wish she could see that sometimes less is more, sharing her life away at this time won't help her at all.”

Sorry I still can't multi quote but in answer to the above and humpty from a professional PR perspective Georgia has cracked it - she is about to go into her first stage performance and she has hit the headlines in the DM, Mirror, OK, Hello, New, local papers etc etc this in a week where Strictly is all over the news.
(I have not been linking these but just google her name and see what comes up)
They are today doing follow up pieces on her using last nights photograph of her looking quite amazing and her sad tweet..
None of these are in any way critical, in fact they are sympathetic - they are also running photographs of her which are very flattering and mentioning BAT.
This is quite a coup given the new Strictly celebs should be grabbing the headlines.

So no Agent or PR person is going to advise her to stop using Social Media and I should think the BAT Producers are over the moon..
I understand the general distaste for social media here and I also think you are all probably right that sharing her every move will not do her any good emotionally or in her relationships - but professionally speaking she couldn't have done better.

With 'Trollied' about to hit the screens this Autumn (the cast and crew are giving her very good reviews) and the Rocky Horror already booked her future professionally is going very well indeed.
She may well have already been offered work well into next year.

She may have hit a low spot romantically but career wise she is doing fine.
Rose_1
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sandy_Andrews:
“I also find it difficult to reconcile Gio suddenly ending their relationship with what went on just a week or so before,
I still have his original instagram before he killed it on my lap top.
Just over a week ago he posted a photograph of her with the comment -:

pernicegiovanniofficial : The most beautiful smile ?? your Amore!! @georgiamay112 I love you !! ❤️

He then posted the photograph of him, Georgia and Janette and Alijaz having dinner with the comment :

Giovanni Pernice ‏@pernicegiovann1 Aug 13
Love and friends 💕@georgiafoote @JManrara @AljazSkorjanec

We know from other photographs and tweets etc that they spent a day with the Zilli family and an evening with the rest of the Strictly Professionals.
In all of them they look very happy - in all of them he has his arms around Georgia.

So why would they decide to break up a week later ?
He was spending long days training for Strictly and meeting the new celebs.
She was fully participating in welcoming every new celeb, learning lines and giving a radio interview about BAT in which she showed concern that she was so busy that she wasn't going be able to organise Xmas.

Did they sit down and work out that they were not going to be free to support each other over the Autumn and Winter ?
Could he not make her opening nights ?
Was the original plan to go to Sicily for Xmas which was now not possible since she had signed to do Rocky Horror ?
The only free time for them both would be a week in January before he started rehearsals for the Strictly Tour.

Whatever became a sticking point had in some way to be work related - He was very exhausted from long rehearsals and I think Georgia was stressed about BAT etc.
She put an old photograph of them together on instagram saying he was her 'favorite human being' - like she was reassuring him that he was that important to her.

The next thing we know she is on a train saying they were breaking up and would now be friends ... she let it become obvious she wasn't happy about that.

Late at night the first thing he deleted from Twitter before he cleaned out his instagram was her tweet about Rocky Horror which he had retweeted !

So it is all a great puzzle but the one thing I am sure about is that they are still very much in love with each other (You don't stop feeling the way he does about her in a week) - they are just acting out their hurt in different ways.
One of them will surely give way on whatever is the deal breaker - for once Lewis and I are soul mates on this thread as we appear to be the only ones who think they will obviously get back together.”

I agree with sandy and lewis I believe they will get back together they are perfect for each other and no one else I pray God please.
jenster-
29-08-2016
I can see all of your view points from the different perspectives they offer.

At the end of the day though none of us know the truth.

What I will say is that if they do both want to make it work and they are still in love then I hope they do it very soon because I think the window of opportunity is closing in fast.

As others have said Gio will be in "focus on strictly" competitive mode. Georgia will be "focus on first theatre role". If they don't reconcile now then it would be very difficult as they will not even be in the same vicinity very shortly!!

For this reason with my logical head on, I think we will find out very shortly if GG are truly done. My romantic head would very much hope that they are still in love and want to at least try and works things out. I know it sounds pathetic but they really did have a special aura about them as a couple and it would be a shame if they let that go.

If it is truly over then of course I would be very sad but respect that it is their life not mine!!

Lets hope it works out for the very best for both of their sakes
pennybel
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jammy_Dodger:
“I agree they are both really angry at each other but showing it in completely different ways. It's so sad as I think there is a lot of love there but no communication.”

I so agree with that
nina99
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Hi Vics mum! *waves* nice to see you and I completely agree, NDD is a lovely one

Also agree that Georgia should stay off social media for a while. Its not the right thing to do - I'm not blaming her, shes clearly heartbroken and reacting in a very typical way but it won't help, especially with her being in the public eye. Not sure if shes irked at the fact people are assuming she is the one finishing it and wants to get across that shes not, or shes just came home tipsy and posted from the heart, perhaps wanting Giovanni to see it (I'm more inclined to think its the latter) but it won't help. Of course so many of us loved GG but if they have broken up and at least one of them (if not both) know its not going to work, they have to move on. Perhaps I sound brutal, but given the intensity of their relationship and the fact I think Georgia is still in love, they have to have a clean break and forget about friendships or contact for now. I know thats horrible to think of as a GG fan, but its the only way they can properly grieve the ending and get over it. IMO you can't be friends so soon from being in a relatinship and in love, you need time apart to heal properly. If one or both are still in love the friendship thing will only confuse things at this stage and perhaps even make them cling to possiblilites that aren't there. I know this is sad for a GG fan to think about, but if they have split, I can only think of whats best for them both as individuals now ”

Hi Humpty, good to see you posting on here again. Sadly, I think you are right. It happened to a couple I used to know. He was much keener or her than she was on him and when they broke up, since they moved in the same social circle they stayed friends. However this made him think there was still a hope that they could get back together again and it wasn't till quite a bit later when she found a new boyfriend that he finally accepted that there was no hope and was pretty devastated as a result.

I think for the moment they should take time apart. It's fortunate that they will be in different cities for the next few months. Hopefully this will give them time either to realise they have made the right decision or that they can after all work things out and that they love each other too much not to be together. Sadly, I'm not overly hopeful but you never know. Above all they must absolutely not engage in a Twitter war!
Jammy_Dodger
29-08-2016
Quotes liked by Georgia on Instagram 25 minutes ago

https://instagram.com/p/BJrvY9YgRt4/

https://instagram.com/p/BJrGL-PAdBB/
pennybel
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by wicks:
“I think Jo's response to Janette said that they had different things to announce so I'm not sure that it's that”

Im not so sure why 10.00am Wednsday perhaps the pros are doing a tour that's the best I can come up with .
lozzerbozzer
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sandy_Andrews:
“So it is all a great puzzle but the one thing I am sure about is that they are still very much in love with each other (You don't stop feeling the way he does about her in a week) - they are just acting out their hurt in different ways.
One of them will surely give way on whatever is the deal breaker - for once Lewis and I are soul mates on this thread as we appear to be the only ones who think they will obviously get back together.”

Add me into that group Sandy 🙋🏼
I wavered a little yesterday and thought it was definitely the end but now I do think they will get back together. I don't think it will be straight away though, I think they need a few weeks apart, maybe even a few months but I do think eventually they will get back together.

Like you said, I do find it strange it's gone from that post that Gio put about the most beautiful smile to this in such a short space of time. Surely if you were having any slight doubts about the relationship, wouldn't you hold up on the tweets and Instagram posts?

The dancing tweet from Georgia really made me feel sad, I do wish she'd stay off social media for a while but I also see why she's doing it.

Originally Posted by Jammy_Dodger:
“Tweet from Katya, more Strictly rehearsals today

https://twitter.com/mrs_katjones/sta...04143046852609

So we know where Gio is.”

Maybe not...Oti has put a video on snapchat, saying she has just been to the gym for a workout and is now off home. Maybe Gio has a day off too?
pennybel
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Georgiafan:
“Even though Georgia has become close with them. They're Giovannis friends first so I'd think they'd side with him. I still can't believe his has happened or was only 3 days ago he was her favourite person and now he's wiped all pics of her. Georgia is clearly taking this hard. She practically moved to London for him. I hope he realises before it's too late.”

I should imagine she will have to o back she could not remove all her possessions from flat and carry them back on the train.
pennybel
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jammy_Dodger:
“I think Gio is a proud stubborn Italian and culture differences add to all this. Jo and Janette are his friends but at least they are sensible. Georgia doesn't go to the right people for advice. I would have thought her mum and sister would intervene more as they can see (as we can) what Gio has given Georgia. He gives her love, confidence and protection. She didn't have this when she was with LSM and in Manchester. Her Manchester friends are party people and to me represent who she was but not who she can be.”

Hopefully they will talk to both of them
Jammy_Dodger
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by lozzerbozzer:
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Maybe not...Oti has put a video on snapchat, saying she has just been to the gym for a workout and is now of home. Maybe Gio has a day off too?”

Shame I was hoping we would see some pics of him later
VicsMum
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sandy_Andrews:
“So no Agent or PR person is going to advise her to stop using Social Media and I should think the BAT Producers are over the moon..
I understand the general distaste for social media here and I also think you are all probably right that sharing her every move will not do her any good emotionally or in her relationships - but professionally speaking she couldn't have done better.”

What I meant (and I believe others meant it too) with "staying off social media for a while" is to not share away personal life. She obviously has to use social media for professional purposes and I'm certain nobody here is advising her to not do so in that respect. But regarding her personal life, as I said, less is more.
Brian_Grahams
29-08-2016
Just to quickly add my opinion into the discussion this morning - I think what Georgia has written on Twitter is both understandable and perfectly right.
Understandable because it's a time of high emotions, and I think at such a time she should express her feelings in whichever way suits her. And perfectly right because of how I think the relationship ended.

But then again that means my opinion is based essentially on speculation, and I'm a notoriously bad speculator!
Lamballe
29-08-2016
I'm bemused. Why is it deemed acceptable and even sought after for couples to express their joy, holiday snaps, love declarations etc on social media, but once things get depressing they are expected to keep a dignified silence and sort themselves out behind closed doors? These are human beings with emotions, not robots who exist only to make others happy.

I feel sorry for these two, they're young, break ups are bloody tough, moreso in the public eye I bet. Nothing wrong with expressing a little sadness and confusion after months of sharing their joy.
VicsMum
29-08-2016
I agree with you Brian, she should post whatever she likes; it's her life, her rules. She's behaving like any 25 yr old would in the face of a break up, the "look at what you're mssing" pics are typical break up reactions. However, she's not any 25 yr old, she's a public person and should think a bit more wisely in that respect. But then, what do I know?
Sandy_Andrews
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by jenster-:
“I can see all of your view points from the different perspectives they offer.

At the end of the day though none of us know the truth.

What I will say is that if they do both want to make it work and they are still in love then I hope they do it very soon because I think the window of opportunity is closing in fast.

As others have said Gio will be in "focus on strictly" competitive mode. Georgia will be "focus on first theatre role". If they don't reconcile now then it would be very difficult as they will not even be in the same vicinity very shortly!!

For this reason with my logical head on, I think we will find out very shortly if GG are truly done. My romantic head would very much hope that they are still in love and want to at least try and works things out. I know it sounds pathetic but they really did have a special aura about them as a couple and it would be a shame if they let that go.

If it is truly over then of course I would be very sad but respect that it is their life not mine!!

Lets hope it works out for the very best for both of their sakes”

It seems a life time on here but it is only two days since Georgia posted the break up tweet - so I don't think that is a long time given that she ran home to Mum !
They will have to be talking as they have a lease to a flat to sort out if they are serious about splitting - I notice that Georgia is taking the trouble to keep in touch with Jo and Janette too so the lines of communication are there.
We have no idea but it is probable that they are continuing their heated discussions over the phone throughout - that is what most normal people do.

It seems to me Georgia walked out and composed the break up notice to force his hand in some way - God knows why and what about.
Throughout her tweets and the tweets she has liked the theme is she expected more support and devotion from him.
He has behaved in an equally hot headed way - although seeking lots of love and sympathy from his lady fans.
They are both stressed and exhausted and just need to be left to sort themselves out - it is obvious if you think about it that this has all happened when they are just about as stressed as they can be work wise - Georgia is most likely in quite a nervous state about BAT and probably was looking for maximum support from him when his mind was firmly on Strictly !
No wonder they had a falling out.
Brian_Grahams
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“I agree with you Brian, she should post whatever she likes; it's her life, her rules. She's behaving like any 25 yr old would in the face of a break up, the "look at what you're mssing" pics are typical break up reactions. However, she's not any 25 yr old, she's a public person and should think a bit more wisely in that respect. But then, what do I know?”

That's a good point, It's another one of the drawbacks of being in the public eye I suppose!
It must be difficult for them though, at a time of such high emotion. It's just if I was in Georgia's position, I can imagine I would be doing the same thing as her!
Dee_TEAMGGxx
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sandy_Andrews:
“I also find it difficult to reconcile Gio suddenly ending their relationship with what went on just a week or so before,
I still have his original instagram before he killed it on my lap top.
Just over a week ago he posted a photograph of her with the comment -:

pernicegiovanniofficial : The most beautiful smile ?? your Amore!! @georgiamay112 I love you !! ❤️

He then posted the photograph of him, Georgia and Janette and Alijaz having dinner with the comment :

Giovanni Pernice ‏@pernicegiovann1 Aug 13
Love and friends 💕@georgiafoote @JManrara @AljazSkorjanec

We know from other photographs and tweets etc that they spent a day with the Zilli family and an evening with the rest of the Strictly Professionals.
In all of them they look very happy - in all of them he has his arms around Georgia.

So why would they decide to break up a week later ?
He was spending long days training for Strictly and meeting the new celebs.
She was fully participating in welcoming every new celeb, learning lines and giving a radio interview about BAT in which she showed concern that she was so busy that she wasn't going be able to organise Xmas.

Did they sit down and work out that they were not going to be free to support each other over the Autumn and Winter ?
Could he not make her opening nights ?
Was the original plan to go to Sicily for Xmas which was now not possible since she had signed to do Rocky Horror ?
The only free time for them both would be a week in January before he started rehearsals for the Strictly Tour.

Whatever became a sticking point had in some way to be work related - He was very exhausted from long rehearsals and I think Georgia was stressed about BAT etc.
She put an old photograph of them together on instagram saying he was her 'favorite human being' - like she was reassuring him that he was that important to her.

The next thing we know she is on a train saying they were breaking up and would now be friends ... she let it become obvious she wasn't happy about that.

Late at night the first thing he deleted from Twitter before he cleaned out his instagram was her tweet about Rocky Horror which he had retweeted !

So it is all a great puzzle but the one thing I am sure about is that they are still very much in love with each other (You don't stop feeling the way he does about her in a week) - they are just acting out their hurt in different ways.
One of them will surely give way on whatever is the deal breaker - for once Lewis and I are soul mates on this thread as we appear to be the only ones who think they will obviously get back together.”

Sandy, I desperately hope your last paragraph turns out to be true.
Sometimes people break up and only then realise just how much they love someone.
The timing of this is awful which makes me think it wasn't planned.
I change my mind by the minute on who instigated it and the reason.
if i was Georgias mum then I'd ask her to stay off social media. This needs time to settle and I wouldn't want my daughter to come across as desperate as i think that would drive him away. That beautiful photo of Georgia smiling and the meal out with Janette & Aljaz was so recent, I don't think Gio would post them and comment on them the way he did if it wasn't from the heart

Sandy I sent you and wicks a part written message by mistake. I've resent you a novel instead
dellymcgoo
29-08-2016
Sandy , Lewis , Loz I hope ye prove me wrong but I really don't think there is hope of them getting back together. When that statement was realised I think that's where it all ended for good. They could have had a break for a while and no one may have noticed. But by officially announincing it I think that was the end. Like others have said they probably did have their ups and downs like every normal couple. What finally finished or who will go into the long list of unanswered questions we already have.
pennybel
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by jenster-:
“Yes good point Jammy. That's why I wish I knew where his head is at.
If he really is done then fair enough but I just hope that if he does still love her, he will try to work things out.”

If he still loves her don't see how he an file it under forget so quickly
notdebbiedingle
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lamballe:
“I'm bemused. Why is it deemed acceptable and even sought after for couples to express their joy, holiday snaps, love declarations etc on social media, but once things get depressing they are expected to keep a dignified silence and sort themselves out behind closed doors? These are human beings with emotions, not robots who exist only to make others happy.

I feel sorry for these two, they're young, break ups are bloody tough, moreso in the public eye I bet. Nothing wrong with expressing a little sadness and confusion after months of sharing their joy.”

Hi Lamballe, welcome to the discussion!!
I agree in principle with what you say, I think those who are 'criticising' Georgia for sharing her feelings on Social media are doing so mainly for her own sake, in that it's probably more likely to antagonise Gio than get them back together, but that is of course assuming they even want to get back together!!
But yes, heartreaking as Georgia's tweet was this morning it is good for us as her followers to know exactly how at least one of them is feeling!!
Sandy_Andrews
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by dellymcgoo:
“Sandy , Lewis , Loz I hope ye prove me wrong but I really don't think there is hope of them getting back together. When that statement was realised I think that's where it all ended for good. They could have had a break for a while and no one may have noticed. But by officially announincing it I think that was the end. Like others have said they probably did have their ups and downs like every normal couple. What finally finished or who will go into the long list of unanswered questions we already have.”

Well I think there is a mood of pessimism in here like it is the end of the world - people break up and get back together every day - It wasn't a press release it was something Georgia knocked up on the train to Manchester while having a strop.
She probably e-mailed it to him and he said right then carry on if that's how you feel etc etc, (or the Italian/English equivalent of that)

I don't know how many times friends and relatives have phoned to say they are never speaking to their partner again and how many engagements are broken off and then a couple of days later they are back together like nothing happened.

These two are very human - and stressed right now so a bit of time and space won't do them any harm.
Dee_TEAMGGxx
29-08-2016
Someone mentioned recently that Marvin and Rochelle Hulmes broke up and then got back together. Does anyone know the reason, how long it was for and if it was played out in the media spotlight.? The timing of this for GG has ensured it's in the spotlight with SCD & BAT about to start.

I know if i was in their shoes I wouldn't be able to cope in the spotlight. For Gio he's doing something familiar with friends and familiar people. Lets face it how positive and happy would dancing make you feel. For Georgia it's a different story, a new line of work in theatre with new people and single for the first time I can't imagine with the way Gio looked after her and took her to Sicily, made a commitment with the ring and made lovey comments about her being his girlfriend . The best thing he got out of SCD was a girlfriend and as she said on the radio interview this week he helped her with her BAT lines, that he leave her at this time.
Pam_Brayshaw
29-08-2016
Yes thinking about it if he doesn't feel the same it seems a pretty bad time to do this to her - would he do that to her? I don't think he would given that he knows how nervous and maybe worried she is about her first theatre role. Which leads me to believe that it is something between them that has been festering and has maybe blown up and they couldn't come up with a solution ie neither would back down so they have come up with this answer. I think she is strong professionally but not so much personally which he must know so hopefully he will not do anything to itentionally upset her.
Sandy_Andrews
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“What I meant (and I believe others meant it too) with "staying off social media for a while" is to not share away personal life. She obviously has to use social media for professional purposes and I'm certain nobody here is advising her to not do so in that respect. But regarding her personal life, as I said, less is more.”

Yes I know what you mean but the Tabloids, Mags etc that look for stories are not interested in professional announcements - she can go on tweeting about BAT etc until the cows come home but they won't feature them unless there is an interesting bit of gossip attached.

Less is more might be better as far as we are concerned but the more interesting her personal life is the more publicity she will get.
(Georgia manages this well never going down the TOWIE really vulgar route - basically because she is a very nice girl)
I don't think Gio is backward in this respect either - he has the good sense to be represented by a PR firm who no doubt are responsible for some of the stories about GG.

Sadly the break up etc gives Gio some good name recognition as he goes into his second series of Strictly - not useful for the programme itself but for getting PA gigs and so on throughout the year.

I have not been reading the threads 'downstairs' but if someone hasn't suggested they are doing all this for publicity I will be very surprised.
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