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Georgia May Foote and Giovanni Pernice Appreciation Thread (Part 3)
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Brian_Grahams
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by jivingmissdaisy:
“Agree with all this Wicks. He hasn't had a personality transplant overnight. Georgia also talked about how supportive he had been in the Fabulous magazine article and implied that she was still sometimes dealing with aftermath of her previous breakup. Relationships are hard enough when you're young, these two have had so much extra stuff to deal with. Lots of stuff behind the scenes we can't know about.”

I don't think he has had a personality transplant but I sometimes find myself questioning how accurate my perception of his personality has been.

I see why people may think he has been vilified, but I have tried to be diplomatic in what I've said and base everything that I've said on facts and evidence. As Pam said because we have been so involved in their relationship, and they have allowed us to feel quite involved, unfortunately when something like this happens we are probably bound to have quite a strong and opinionated reaction!
afton_bishop
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by madamno1:
“For goodness sake Lewis do you never read this thread, if you tell who it is I will have to leave the thread as have tried not to know it and hoping that some IDIOT dosen't divuldge it,sorry but you make me so mad”

Maddy Lewis might make you mad but 'hoping some IDIOT doesn't divulge it' doesn't say a lot about your opinion of posters on here. Also the other day when another poster replied to one of your comments, in a fair manner, I think it, you were rude in your response after all if you had read this thread you would have noticed that quite a few of us responded to Lewis and that he had deleted said quote. Just think your post to Lewis was rather rude 🤔


Originally Posted by wicks:
“I'm not sure if this was mentioned at the time (I think Sandy may have done but not sure) but if you mean the picture of them in the taxi that she tagged "my favourite human being" - then I really don't think that wasn't a photo from that day - it was old picture from when they went to the ballet a few months ago - an evening when they were VERY happy and loved up, judging from other pictures of the evening (and I think, though may be getting confused, that that was the night that he made the jokey comment to the reporter about them having beautiful children). My point being, that wasn't a photo immediately pre-break up - it was an old one from a happy time, so I wouldn't read anything into his expression - he was probably just trying to look mysterious!

God, I've been sounding like a right defender of him on here in the last day - don't get me wrong, I'm baffled by what he may have done but I don't think he's guilty of a lot of what is currently being suggested.”

BIB Agree with you here Wicks 😔
pennybel
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by Jammy_Dodger:
“Morning everyone

I think Gio is a lot more private than Georgia. When he betrays himself it is in his body language and facial expression. So I'm reserving judgement. Look at the final VT when Georgia kisses him on the cheek he looks almost pained probably because at the point they were not together. Compare that to the tour pictures and periscopes when they are cuddling up and he was happy. His body language and expression in the recent restaurant/SCD pro's picture, you can't tell me he wasn't happy Georgia was with him.


The selfie this week shows he is definitely upset but I think it is right he has his show face on for Strictly. He has to it's his job. I think he's angry she may have chosen work over him (his view) and it's his way of dealing with things. Lets see how he is with the new celeb and also how GG are in a month. Once the anger disapates and they have time to reflect hopefully.”




I honestly think she has chosen work over him. Georgia is on a high ATM as far as work is concerned but that can change someone new and in the public eye will come along and who an say how long itw ill last .The industry is so fickle. One thing I am sure of is that there has been no compromise and that is regrettable.
pennybel
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by collaw:
“No chance maybe the other way around he was her emotional prop to achieve whaat she is achieving now”

I agree Collaw
alison_baillie
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by Jammy_Dodger:
“Morning everyone

I think Gio is a lot more private than Georgia. When he betrays himself it is in his body language and facial expression. So I'm reserving judgement. Look at the final VT when Georgia kisses him on the cheek he looks almost pained probably because at the point they were not together. Compare that to the tour pictures and periscopes when they are cuddling up and he was happy. His body language and expression in the recent restaurant/SCD pro's picture, you can't tell me he wasn't happy Georgia was with him.

The selfie this week shows he is definitely upset but I think it is right he has his show face on for Strictly. He has to it's his job. I think he's angry she may have chosen work over him (his view) and it's his way of dealing with things. Lets see how he is with the new celeb and also how GG are in a month. Once the anger disapates and they have time to reflect hopefully.”

Thank you. Jammy . I very much agree with your post. The deletion of following status on Twitter and Instagram allows Giovanni to embrace the strictly Bubble. Remember "of course I love my family but the time for that is after Strictly" ITT not verbatim. He does want to win. It is written all over his arm. A win allows him to Tour under his own name should he want to in the future. I very much hope Georgia will put all her efforts into BAT and make sure she is a success. She is looking to put her stamp on her two upcoming roles and her interpretation and the direction remains unclear at the moment. I wish them both the very best, but especially Georgia as she is growing into new things. Her Dad Howard seems to be saying he has his arm around her through iconic Holly.AliciaX
afton_bishop
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by collaw:
“No chance maybe the other way around he was her emotional prop to achieve whaat she is achieving now”

Collaw you could be right here unfortunately people will make their minds up and will side with one or other. That leads to the other question will this thread 'survive'. I hope so. 😔
madamno1
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by wicks:
“Ditto to all of the above.

I think I need a bit of a step back too, but won't disappear. I just need to remember that it's none of my business!”

Jammy I keep forgeting to thank you for all your effort with all the presents so a bigTHANK YOU
I have a paypal so it will be helpful to be able to pay by that

I am gutted once again with their actions ,for a couple so deeply in love 2 weeks ago they have certainly turned sour so quickly,like so many I feel I have invested a lot of my days following them and have been so upset I need to step back too. They had become my reason to open my computer each day to catch the next lovely photo of them followed by a sigh to oh how lovely made my day,but alas no more of those days so this sad old lady will have to find another outlet for her affections so so sad
star89
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by Pam_Brayshaw:
“You are totally right and I am guilty too but unfortunately that is what you are going to get when you get together so publicly, live your life professing your love for each other on social media and then break up the same way. You can't just expect fans to express their love for you when things are all good and not have an opinion when they are not so long as it doesn't go down the abuse and being trolled route.”

I agree with you, Pam.

I don't agree with anyone sending Gio horrible tweets or comments on instagram but I'm not going to chastise people for having their opinions. GG were perfectly happy to live their, happy, life via social media so I'm afraid they can't complain when people have opinions on their break up. Especially because we know so little - and for fans who've taken such an interest in them and followed them so closely, it's very upsetting to know A they've broken up and B have no clue as to why
wicks
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by Pam_Brayshaw:
“You are totally right and I am guilty too but unfortunately that is what you are going to get when you get together so publicly, live your life professing your love for each other on social media and then break up the same way. You can't just expect fans to express their love for you when things are all good and not have an opinion when they are not so long as it doesn't go down the abuse and being trolled route.”

I understand. When it boils down to it - they are 25 and have been together for 8 months. Relationships are hard at that age.

Daisy - you are right, I forgot to mention in my list of supportive things, all the stuff with her previous break up and how he helped her (now obviously that was to his benefit too!) and how apparently it was horrendous for them behind the scenes during the last series. Why would he want to get involved in all that if his feelings weren't genuine? And one other supportive thing she mentioned recently - helping her learn her scripts etc. I think people are blaming him because he seems to want a clean break - which is hard to see but totally understandable. Georgia needs to step back a bit herself, for her own good. I'm not taking sides here and elevating him in any way - he may well have behaved badly - but I'm shocked at some of the reactions
pennybel
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by wicks:
“Bloody hell - let me get this straight - the poor guy has been vilified for not visiting his mum enough, not going on holiday enough, liking tweets that are excited about him being back on Strictly, not liking enough tweets about Team GG and it been said that it's hoped he gets voted off early and/or that his contract doesn't get renewed - all because he (may have) ended a relationship?! And tried to have a clean break? And he's been accused of using her and calculatedly casting her aside now the new series is starting in order to increase his profile and chances of winning - (I really think that if he was going to do that, he could have planned it a bit better and done it a month before - why the hell would he do that at the worst time for him too?!) And all of this from people on here who at least once liked him - I hate to think what everyone else says!

He's actually maintained a dignified silence. I feel sorry for him and it's only going to get worse when he's actually seen to be enjoying himself and looking happy on Strictly. Which he undoubtedly will. I might have to hide! Don't get me wrong - I'm as confused and disappointed about what's gone on as the next person and feel so sad that he might have ended it - and so very sorry for Georgia. I don't blame him from not following her on instagram after her comment the other day, to be honest. Irrespective of what's happened between them and who did what - why would he want to watch her saying things like that in public?

As for the supporting each other during the show and since. No-one could have been more proud of her than he was - from his reaction to Craig saying that she could be in a West End show, to his reactions to the jobs she's landed since, to how proud and excited he looked in the periscope when talking about her upcoming work back in TV, and going with her to the Lorraine event etc. And in a personal sense too - getting on with her family, going to christenings etc. I know she's been HUGELY supportive of him - in all the ways that have already been listed by others - but it's not been a one way street.

I feel very sorry for both of them but feel sad that he's being vilified in this way.”

Very wel said
collaw
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by afton_bishop:
“Collaw you could be right here unfortunately people will make their minds up and will side with one or other. That leads to the other question will this thread 'survive'. I hope so. 😔”

Eventually, it will die there some here just for the romance of what the perceived to be love and good,
I started here because I liked the dancing and got opinionated that they should win SCD, new series soon so maybe ill only pop in just now and then . there are some nice people on here you can disagree with, but it is just different opinions and they read and reply without ( most of the time ) taking it personally, ( Sandy is watching the planes this morning )

Then they got involved emotionally involved and i took offence, that people can not live their lives as they wish, without some shit comments people are free to be good kind and responsive to others , I am of the adage that if you can't speak good of someone don't speak
madamno1
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by Sandy_Andrews:
“You need to too Chris and wicks x”

I am trying so hard not to find out who Gio is partnered with before the show tomorrow and people keep dropping hints in here so I am going to sign out until after the show, I am glad I am behind with reading this because some id-t would have dropped it by now because you have had to tell them to delete things
notdebbiedingle
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by wicks:
“Bloody hell - let me get this straight - the poor guy has been vilified for not visiting his mum enough, not going on holiday enough, liking tweets that are excited about him being back on Strictly, not liking enough tweets about Team GG and it been said that it's hoped he gets voted off early and/or that his contract doesn't get renewed - all because he (may have) ended a relationship?! And tried to have a clean break? And he's been accused of using her and calculatedly casting her aside now the new series is starting in order to increase his profile and chances of winning - (I really think that if he was going to do that, he could have planned it a bit better and done it a month before - why the hell would he do that at the worst time for him too?!) And all of this from people on here who at least once liked him - I hate to think what everyone else says!

He's actually maintained a dignified silence. I feel sorry for him and it's only going to get worse when he's actually seen to be enjoying himself and looking happy on Strictly. Which he undoubtedly will. I might have to hide! Don't get me wrong - I'm as confused and disappointed about what's gone on as the next person and feel so sad that he might have ended it - and so very sorry for Georgia. I don't blame him from not following her on instagram after her comment the other day, to be honest. Irrespective of what's happened between them and who did what - why would he want to watch her saying things like that in public?

As for the supporting each other during the show and since. No-one could have been more proud of her than he was - from his reaction to Craig saying that she could be in a West End show, to his reactions to the jobs she's landed since, to how proud and excited he looked in the periscope when talking about her upcoming work back in TV, and going with her to the Lorraine event etc. And in a personal sense too - getting on with her
family, going to christenings etc. I know she's been HUGELY supportive of him - in all the ways that have already been listed by others - but it's not been a one way street.

I feel very sorry for both of them but feel sad that he's being vilified in this way.”

Totally agree with this Wicks!!
You all know that nobody loves Georgia more than I do but frankly I am dissppointed by some of the comments that have appeared on here about Gio in the last couple of days!!
There is no way on this earth in my opinion that this is all down to Gio switching off his feelings overnight so to speak & I fully support those who are saying his love for her and support for her were absolutely as 100% genuine as we all thought they were & vice versa!!
What I think some of us are losing sight of is the fact that they're 25 & 26, old enough for some to settle down to 'domestic bliss' for life but for a lot more an age where opportunities need to be grabbed with both hands while you're still young enough to enjoy them & sometimes relationships suffer and end because of it!! Given the opportunites being presented to these two then you can multiply that by several times!!
Yes they are both hurting at the moment & both lashing out which is sad to see & one of the curses of social media but in time I do believe they may look back & see what they had & maybe with assistance from mutual friends be able to salvage a bond of friendship!!

In the meantime this is the Georgia AND Giovanni appreciation thread & I would like to hope that we can all take a step back, view the situation for what it is, ie two young kids going through a messy break up, and try and continue our support, love & yes, sympathy for BOTH of them!! As I have said before, whatever has happened recently with Gio we all owe him a tremendous debt of gratitude for rescuing Georgia & giving her back her self belief, her confidence & her sense of worth in the last twelve months & I firmly believe she would not be where she is today without him!!
Sorry for the rant, I'm not getting at individuals but I'm starting to feel a bad vibe on the thread which is why I haven't posted much yesterday or today & felt the need to say something!!
wicks
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by madamno1:
“I am trying so hard not to find out who Gio is partnered with before the show tomorrow and people keep dropping hints in here so I am going to sign out until after the show, I am glad I am behind with reading this because some id-t would have dropped it by now because you have had to tell them to delete things”

Nice to call me an idiot (quoting a post with my name in specifically)! I was actually flagging up to someone else (as I have to several people - politely!) that they had mentioned the name - and in doing so, accidentally quoted their post.
collaw
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Totally agree with this Wicks!!
You all know that nobody loves Georgia more than I do but frankly I am dissppointed by some of the comments that have appeared on here about Gio in the last couple of days!!
There is no way on this earth in my opinion that this is all down to Gio switching off his feelings overnight so to speak & I fully support those who are saying his love for her and support for her were absolutely as 100% genuine as we all thought they were & vice versa!!
What I think some of us are losing sight of is the fact that they're 25 & 26, old enough for some to settle down to 'domestic bliss' for life but for a lot more an age where opportunities need to be grabbed with both hands while you're still young enough to enjoy them & sometimes relationships suffer and end because of it!! Given the opportunites being presented to these two then you can multiply that by several times!!
Yes they are both hurting at the moment & both lashing out which is sad to see & one of the curses of social media but in time I do believe they may look back & see what they had & maybe with assistance from mutual friends be able to salvage a bond of friendship!!

In the meantime this is the Georgia AND Giovanni appreciation thread & I would like to hope that we can all take a step back, view the situation for what it is, ie two young kids going through a messy break up, and try and continue our support, love & yes, sympathy for BOTH of them!! As I have said before, whatever has happened recently with Gio we all owe him a tremendous debt of gratitude for rescuing Georgia & giving her back her self belief, her confidence & her sense of worth in the last twelve months & I firmly believe she would not be where she is today without him!!
Sorry for the rant, I'm not getting at individuals but I'm starting to feel a bad vibe on the thread which is why I haven't posted much yesterday or today & felt the need to say something!! ”


NDD
No bad vibes I can feel , life goes on so does SCD enjoy the new show Claudia , Oti
my show is complete they should both be in the final i have pronounced ( sod the dancing eye candy and bendy bodies to the fore )
Pam_Brayshaw
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by madamno1:
“I am trying so hard not to find out who Gio is partnered with before the show tomorrow and people keep dropping hints in here so I am going to sign out until after the show, I am glad I am behind with reading this because some id-t would have dropped it by now because you have had to tell them to delete things”

Sometimes you do it by accident not intentionally. Unfortunately I was one of those idiots.
collaw
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by Pam_Brayshaw:
“Sometimes you do it by accident not intentionally. Unfortunately I was one of those idiots.”

Life goes on
alison_baillie
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by collaw:
“Life goes on ”

Collaw 🙂👍 Kind. Alicia.
kathy_shaw1
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by collaw:
“Sorry Chris
Can't leave that unchallenged there is something work related it is nothing to do with winning , just time to act as a couple visiting families, the are few people as relaxed about families as the British, they have only been able to act as a couple once in Sicily where in England it was all the time, I could be so wrong but I do not feel either are selfish , but 1 is fighting to make a name on stage and 1 is trying to become a couple which has been rejected by the other which is the reason for the deleating from ones mind and history if possible
just my thought”

Sadly I think collaw is spot on with this post! Who knows money may have also come into the argument as Georgia knows what sort of money her next 2/3 projects will bring probably quite a lot! Gio only had strictly at the moment which doesn't In the scheme of things pay well! Of course he could go on to be one of the best choreographers (hopefully) in the world but at the moment that's not the case! "Still very gutted"
afton_bishop
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by madamno1:
“I am trying so hard not to find out who Gio is partnered with before the show tomorrow and people keep dropping hints in here so I am going to sign out until after the show, I am glad I am behind with reading this because some id-t would have dropped it by now because you have had to tell them to delete things”

Maddy don't know if you read my earlier post about referring to people on this thread as 'idiots' and doing the same thing again and naming people in your post. You also had a dig at Lewis for not reading the thread yet you have done exactly the same. You can't rage at people and then do exactly the same thing or, is it a case of different rules for you. As for referring to the rest of us as 'idiots' can I say that I take that comment as being downright rude and offensive. People make mistakes and there are plenty of people on here who very quickly try and get it sorted, politely. You're not the only person who is upset at events over the last couple of days, most people on this thread have invested a lot of time and effort bringing pictures etc to our attention and for that I am very grateful and as I'm sure, you are too. To then call these same people idiots well.!!!!!
Patchbuncle
02-09-2016
Oh gawd!!! A group hug is needed or maybe a nap, love a good nap.

It's the GG cushions that bother me, do they get one each? Bin them? Change the covers???
alison_baillie
02-09-2016
Hello Again Everyone. Georgia has posted a lovely image on BAT set. I am at work please could someone post to thread. She is getting on with work! Hurrah! Thank you Alicia.x Set looks great👍😊
Jammy_Dodger
02-09-2016
BAT Instagram

https://instagram.com/p/BJ2ikEMgcif/

As mentioned by Alicia
wicks
02-09-2016
Originally Posted by Patchbuncle:
“Oh gawd!!! A group hug is needed or maybe a nap, love a good nap.

It's the GG cushions that bother me, do they get one each? Bin them? Change the covers???”



Will no-one think of the cushions?!


EDIT - deleted link, Jammy beat me to it!
Islapops
02-09-2016
God if someone would have said two weeks ago that a split would have happened I would have laughed! My apologies to anyone who has been offended by my lack of empathy shall we say with Giovanni and my thoughts on him being the instigator in the whole breakup but it's simply an opinion. The fact that he took her off Twitter just tipped me over the edge as that in my opinion is sticking the knife in & giving it a good twist! God I wish I was mystic meg because to me those two had what I would call 'only happens in movies' love!
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