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Old 13-08-2016, 11:27
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This is probably not Eden is suppose to be about, but...
It would be interesting if there where two or more groups who where in competition for resources.
I don't know how it would work, but a common goal / enemy builds a stronger community spirit and if there where real consequences for a group not working together effectively it would make or brake them.

In the second(?) series of 10,000 BC, they had two groups and it created a ‘them and us’ mentality which made them bond, but it also meant they had someone else to compare themselves with and question their own decisions more. But there where a small minority in both groups who really kept things going - they had a lot of patience in my view! There was a woman Doctor (or senior Nurse?) who wasn’t physically strong, but worked incredibly hard the whole time trying to lead / guid her group while still being a ‘nice’ person - I was well impressed!
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Old 13-08-2016, 19:27
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I think the filming really let's it down. You always have a feeling your spying in on conversations from a distance, and even obviously 'public' exchanges in meeting or at meal times are not that clear. It must be more difficult to do outdoors but considering they are only there to be filmed, they need to improve it. (please!)
If they are using cameras similar to what are used by CCTV monitoring systems then you cannot see where they are pointing and of course easy to hide microphones (as also happens in many public places) though I think everyone has a radio microphone.
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Old 14-08-2016, 09:39
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Good grief, there is nothing whatsoever to watch on Channel 4 now that Eden has ended the first run.
Monday to Friday: Dates, Dogs, Dinners and Dickhe**ds.
Weekends: Three movies each day.

Are Channel 4 not in breach of some broadcasting public service obligations ? This is not just a August thing either, the schedule has been woeful for about four months.
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Old 14-08-2016, 14:54
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Good grief, there is nothing whatsoever to watch on Channel 4 now that Eden has ended the first run.
Monday to Friday: Dates, Dogs, Dinners and Dickhe**ds.
Weekends: Three movies each day.

Are Channel 4 not in breach of some broadcasting public service obligations ? This is not just a August thing either, the schedule has been woeful for about four months.
It shows a lot of films over the weekend.

Personally, I like First Dates and Come Dine With Me (the latter being on a repeat though).

An all time low (unbelievably so) has to be Naked Attraction. Hmmm. I just chanced to glimpse about a minute of it (whilst surfing); I could not believe either programme makers or the participants would stoop that low.

Other channels are available!
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Old 14-08-2016, 15:03
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Tara has gone running to the press about how they were all awful and bullied her.
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Old 14-08-2016, 15:54
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Tara has gone running to the press about how they were all awful and bullied her.
What a loser! She needs to differentiate ineffective nagging from bullying. Her job, as a lifecoach, could be said to entail bullying tactics e.g. continuously pressuring the client to meet the agreed goal by a certain time would feel like being bullied if you doubted that you could get there.
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Old 14-08-2016, 19:31
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Tara has gone running to the press about how they were all awful and bullied her.
Thanks for that, it's an interesting read, she's pretty predictable in her "It was everyone else's fault" response!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-Nirvana.html

Most of the things she criticise others for are just things that like-minded adults get up to have fun when there's no other entertainment, she portrays herself as the only one with self control and respect for others.
Funniest bit: "I was prepared for the lack of food and shelter and for mucking in – I wasn’t prepared for the attacks on my character."... er, I think you'll find the attacks on your character where because you didn't mucking in! And your character.

I wish they could 'accidently' leave a printed version of the interview on beach, I think they'd apreciate something new to read.
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Old 14-08-2016, 20:37
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Thanks for that, it's an interesting read, she's pretty predictable in her "It was everyone else's fault" response!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-Nirvana.html

Most of the things she criticise others for are just things that like-minded adults get up to have fun when there's no other entertainment, she portrays herself as the only one with self control and respect for others.
Funniest bit: "I was prepared for the lack of food and shelter and for mucking in – I wasn’t prepared for the attacks on my character."... er, I think you'll find the attacks on your character where because you didn't mucking in! And your character.

I wish they could 'accidently' leave a printed version of the interview on beach, I think they'd apreciate something new to read.
Whilst she clearly felt alienated from the group (I recall her mentioning being Canadian i.e. with different customs) perhaps she had to make more of an effort to fit in and didn't succeed or try hard enough.

Re: the interview in the MailOnline, I don't recall this being mentioned....(biaised editing?)
‘I also designed the living quarters for the entire group from scratch, as well as a tepee we erected for meetings.’

I do agree with Tara's astonishment about the women taking (and, obviously, using) makeup + taking mirrors....that is decidedly at odds with the nature of the project.

Overall though if she did more physical work, she would not have been in the position to complain.
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Old 14-08-2016, 20:54
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I don't recall this being mentioned....(biaised editing?)
‘I also designed the living quarters for the entire group from scratch, as well as a tepee we erected for meetings.’
I was a bit baffled that! Bearing in mind it was all very functional what does she mean by 'designed', did she direct the builders on how to do it? I bet that must have been well received! And the shelters would be built in any case by the whole group, 'designing' at the beginning doesn't really make up for all the mundane work that needs to be done all the rest of the time she was there. (though she reckons she did do her share)
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Old 14-08-2016, 22:34
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I was a bit baffled that! Bearing in mind it was all very functional what does she mean by 'designed', did she direct the builders on how to do it? I bet that must have been well received! And the shelters would be built in any case by the whole group, 'designing' at the beginning doesn't really make up for all the mundane work that needs to be done all the rest of the time she was there. (though she reckons she did do her share)
Good points.
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Old 14-08-2016, 23:42
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Who thinks Tara did any less work than say, for example: Jasmine ?
Can't help but thinking that the fact none of the "alpha bloke" bell-ends found Tara attractive probably guaranteed her being singled out for criticism.

Sorry ladies, but we men are slime balls in that regard.
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Old 14-08-2016, 23:56
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Who thinks Tara did any less work than say, for example: Jasmine ?
Can't help but thinking that the fact none of the "alpha bloke" bell-ends found Tara attractive probably guaranteed her being singled out for criticism.

Sorry ladies, but we men are slime balls in that regard.
Except that Tara IS attractive. None of her problems (or any problems hey had with her) where because no one fancied her. And she wasn't singled out, many of them had issues with each other and she had people on her side.
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Old 15-08-2016, 00:56
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I was a bit baffled that! Bearing in mind it was all very functional what does she mean by 'designed', did she direct the builders on how to do it? I bet that must have been well received! And the shelters would be built in any case by the whole group, 'designing' at the beginning doesn't really make up for all the mundane work that needs to be done all the rest of the time she was there. (though she reckons she did do her share)
Could well have been an off-the-shelf prefabricated or transportable building with minimal fittings prefitted so that it customised by the people using it.
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Old 15-08-2016, 09:52
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Who thinks Tara did any less work than say, for example: Jasmine ?
Can't help but thinking that the fact none of the "alpha bloke" bell-ends found Tara attractive probably guaranteed her being singled out for criticism.

Sorry ladies, but we men are slime balls in that regard.
That seems highly unlikely. Tara used to be a model so is not unattractive! She clearly didn't do her share of work...it was not just the men noticing this.
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Old 15-08-2016, 14:16
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That seems highly unlikely. Tara used to be a model so is not unattractive! She clearly didn't do her share of work...it was not just the men noticing this.
Men also ostracise/try to bully women who they feel they have no chance with, just look at Glen's reaction after being 'rejected' by the shepherd lady.
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Old 15-08-2016, 14:44
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Men also ostracise/try to bully women who they feel they have no chance with, just look at Glen's reaction after being 'rejected' by the shepherd lady.
So Tara was hounded out because she didn't sleep with the men? Wow, looks like we'll be losing a lot of females in the next series...
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Old 15-08-2016, 15:36
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Men also ostracise/try to bully women who they feel they have no chance with, just look at Glen's reaction after being 'rejected' by the shepherd lady.
I don't recall Glen bullying Caroline after he learnt he wasn't more than a friend to her....we just saw him looking a bit distant from her, i.e. not conversing.
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Old 15-08-2016, 16:49
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Good grief, there is nothing whatsoever to watch on Channel 4 now that Eden has ended the first run.
Monday to Friday: Dates, Dogs, Dinners and Dickhe**ds.
Weekends: Three movies each day.

Are Channel 4 not in breach of some broadcasting public service obligations ? This is not just a August thing either, the schedule has been woeful for about four months.
Do you know, I have been thinking the same thing for ages - you can't distinguish CH4 from Ch5 anymore (except that sometimes Ch5 is actually better!) About the only thing worth watching is Ch4 news.
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Old 15-08-2016, 19:02
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So Tara was hounded out because she didn't sleep with the men? Wow, looks like we'll be losing a lot of females in the next series...
Aye pal thats exactly what I said.
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Old 15-08-2016, 19:05
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I don't recall Glen bullying Caroline after he learnt he wasn't more than a friend to her....we just saw him looking a bit distant from her, i.e. not conversing.
He was being as passive aggressive as you can get to the point where he declared they should all be 'C' nt's to start whittling people out. biggest man baby I've ever seen.
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Old 15-08-2016, 19:07
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He was being as passive aggressive as you can get to the point where he declared they should all be 'C' nt's to start whittling people out. biggest man baby I've ever seen.
She was wise to remain just friends then!
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Old 15-08-2016, 20:00
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Aye pal thats exactly what I said.
I can't tell if your joking, because I certainly was.
"Men also ostracise/try to bully women who they feel they have no chance with" is the dumbest generalisation I've read in a long time.
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Old 15-08-2016, 22:47
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Except that Tara IS attractive. None of her problems (or any problems hey had with her) where because no one fancied her. And she wasn't singled out, many of them had issues with each other and she had people on her side.
She looks very attractive , but I bet the fact that she didn't respond to any attempts to draw her into lurid sex talk marked her as frigid in many minds from the get go . That's just how many allegedly trendy young things think . If you aren't prepared to put on a full face of make up and flirt and talk dirty then you are considered strange and an outsider . And yes, I noted the girls sat in a group doing their make up before they even had breakfast and I was quite shocked . I really was , I thought it was back to basics ..
I didn't take to her in the program at all , but then we need to remember that the producers will have been aware ages before it aired that she was going to leave so the editing might be a bit skewed to make us think she was no loss to the group anyway .
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Old 15-08-2016, 22:56
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She looks very attractive , but I bet the fact that she didn't respond to any attempts to draw her into lurid sex talk marked her as frigid in many minds from the get go . That's just how many allegedly trendy young things think . If you aren't prepared to put on a full face of make up and flirt and talk dirty then you are considered strange and an outsider . And yes, I noted the girls sat in a group doing their make up before they even had breakfast and I was quite shocked . I really was , I thought it was back to basics ..
I didn't take to her in the program at all , but then we need to remember that the producers will have been aware ages before it aired that she was going to leave so the editing might be a bit skewed to make us think she was no loss to the group anyway .
Clever observation...that didn't occur to me!
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Old 15-08-2016, 22:56
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I don't recall Glen bullying Caroline after he learnt he wasn't more than a friend to her....we just saw him looking a bit distant from her, i.e. not conversing.
Oh he was well p1ssed off and very vocal to the other blokes . Another moment for me because he had presented himself to her as sweet and caring and cuddly , planning dinner dates etc . So his volte face when she partnered up with someone else was quite creepy and I thought "Ooh , Caggy , you dodged a bullet there for sure" . He made a few sneering comments about her/them .

I tell you what , the sexual games and manipulation is what will hit the group dynamics hardest and what will be their downfall . I'm quite surprised that a fair few of them are pairing off or clearly hoping to and we saw how the cook guy was preferencing his bit of totty regarding food . Oh yes he was .
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