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Old 18-07-2016, 22:20
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Why would you sign up for a communal living project if you don't want to live as part of a community?? No, Anton shouldn't be able to remove items to his own personal space, the goods are for everyone, not just for him. I think we have the camp @rsehole sorted out!
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Old 18-07-2016, 22:21
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Why would you sign up for a communal living project if you don't want to live as part of a community?? No, Anton shouldn't be able to remove items to his own personal space, the goods are for everyone, not just for him. I think we have the camp @rsehole sorted out!
The camp he is building is for 8 people..for that snow we saw in the preview. I'm biased anyway he's my favourite
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Old 18-07-2016, 22:21
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Well, it was a hell of a lot better than Big Brother. I'll watch again.
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Old 18-07-2016, 22:24
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I don't see why the winter camp had to be built in spring, when growing food is the priority.
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Old 18-07-2016, 22:35
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I don't see why the winter camp had to be built in spring, when growing food is the priority.
Nobody was so I don't think it's fair to put that on Anton alone
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Old 18-07-2016, 22:35
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Why would you sign up for a communal living project if you don't want to live as part of a community?? No, Anton shouldn't be able to remove items to his own personal space, the goods are for everyone, not just for him. I think we have the camp @rsehole sorted out!
But did they sign up for a total communal living ? 23 people in one small space is an awful lot of tension
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Old 19-07-2016, 00:47
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Ardnamurchan or actually a bit closer to Acharacle I think, I posted a link earlier.
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Old 19-07-2016, 00:50
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They will not allow these people to die. calm down. IT's likely to be crap like all the rest of these shows
It gets expensive if people taking part in a programme like that die and the police, HSE and PF get involved.

If someone is unwell or injured it is best to them speak or see a medic rather than remove them.
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Old 19-07-2016, 00:57
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I've been there, fabulously beautiful. A guide took us up to the hills in a Range Rover to see all the deer in thei natural environment - just stunning.

Am enjoying this programme so far.
They seem to be on the North side of Ardnamurchan which is less populated. The three places pictured on that page are on the South side or end of the peninsula.
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Old 19-07-2016, 09:59
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They have a year i don't know why they cannot build more places to live/sleep.
I liked Anton and Raphael the rest were all a bit too samey and annoying.
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Old 19-07-2016, 10:00
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Anton went about it the wrong way. Instead of building it without telling anyone he should have said he was going to build three winter camps over the spring/summer for the whole camp to use. If he'd have said that was his project for that time and he was happy to be left alone to do it then there wouldn't be this friction. I am pretty sure the others would have allowed him to take some food down as he was undertaking a huge workload.

Way too many middle class posh gap years on this programme too.
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Old 19-07-2016, 10:01
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No older people , no teens and no kids . Its an unnatural way to live IMO . They will miss the balance of age
Yeah thats what i thought they all seem to be quite similar in age, and class.
I would love to have seen some dolly bird chav trying to cope! And some older people, and a few kids.
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Old 19-07-2016, 11:12
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I really liked it. I liked the concept, I liked the people, I liked the music, I liked the narration and above all I liked the minimal (normal amount of) swearing.

Will definitely be watching again.
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Old 19-07-2016, 12:40
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They have all they need to last a year in some comfort IF they work together as a group...I can't see it lasting a year.
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Old 19-07-2016, 13:15
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They seem to be on the North side of Ardnamurchan which is less populated. The three places pictured on that page are on the South side or end of the peninsula.
I see - we were in Salen, right on a Loch Sunart which is a sea loch, lots of dolphins, seals etc. Long drive from London, but worth it
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Old 19-07-2016, 13:31
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Was really looking forward to this; loved the original Castaway with Ben Fogle et al, bitterly disappointed though. It's just Big Brother, outdoors, where they get to make their own tasks up.

It's just the usual line up of crap reality show requirements:
Ditzy blonde who will no doubt hook up with some guy asap so as to save actually doing anything useful - check.
Hipster bun toting guy who goes on wild adventures and therefore thinks he's an expert on everything - check.
Pathetic youngsters who go off and tittle tattle about who fancies who - check.
Token vegetarian who cries at the thought of all the poor ickle animals that will have to die so people can eat - check.

Urghh, bring back grumpy Ray and the bespectacled driving instructor, PLEASE?
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Old 19-07-2016, 13:43
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I see - we were in Salen, right on a Loch Sunart which is a sea loch, lots of dolphins, seals etc. Long drive from London, but worth it
There is a reasonably large area there with little in it and no public roads, it's part of the area where there is a project to protect wildcats.
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Old 19-07-2016, 15:19
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I think the show has potential, there is bound to be conflict I just hope its not engineered conflict and selective editing that manipulates the viewer.

But in saying that there does seem to be to be a few middle class types who I know will get on my nerves - life coaches and yoga instructors ffs..
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Old 20-07-2016, 10:20
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I have zero interest in anyone 'hooking up' which is sadly what the second part of this show focussed on.
I wnat to see their survival skills in place. They have already build decent living quarters, kitchen etc in the first half an hour. Not sure what they are going to fill the rest of the series with.
if it continues with the annoying ones having sex and generally being bellends i'll switch off.
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Old 20-07-2016, 10:44
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Anton seems like a bit of a David Koresh type character.
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Old 21-07-2016, 01:19
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My biggest problem with this originally was that it seemed too similar to The Islandwith Bear Grylls programme Channel 4 also does. After watching the first episode, I do feel justified in making that comparison but unlike The Island, which annoyed me from the 2nd series onwards, I enjoyed the first episode of Eden. Whether I'll stick with it, I'm not sure but it did keep my attention until the end of Episode 1, which I wasn't confident it would do.

I do think Anton has a point about the winter shelter but I also think he could make a better attempt in winning people over. I was surprised he got as much as 10 votes in his favour during the meeting.

I'm quite embarrassed for those who have fallen into a romance so early. Nothing wrong with appreciating some eye candy but if I were in the camp, and saw some of my fellow campers succumb to their emotions so early, I'd be worried for when the tougher challenges that surely lie ahead come.

I'm still unsure if the woman genuinely had condoms, or was joking. If she did, IMO, it takes away from the back to basics experience they're meant to be living. As others have said in the thread, there has to be some leniency on the "you're on your own" approach e.g. access to emergency doctors but it's not too much to make people go without rubbers, and live accordingly IMO.

I know he must care about animals but nevertheless, I'm finding Vet Man to be a bit wimpy in that regard so far.
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Old 21-07-2016, 17:14
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I agree with those who are supporting Anton on here. He is spot on about the windward, exposed nature of the main accommodation now and about getting a lot of crops or vegetables planted. From a rural background myself and a family member who is a vet, I can tell you that young guy who is the vet there may only have worked a year or two as a professional after college. That is very little time, most vets at that stage are working with other more experienced colleagues in practices. Twenty or more people is a big group of mouths to feed, they will eat all their animals very quickly without acres of food crops.
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Old 21-07-2016, 17:38
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I agree with those who are supporting Anton on here. He is spot on about the windward, exposed nature of the main accommodation now and about getting a lot of crops or vegetables planted. From a rural background myself and a family member who is a vet, I can tell you that young guy who is the vet there may only have worked a year or two as a professional after college. That is very little time, most vets at that stage are working with other more experienced colleagues in practices. Twenty or more people is a big group of mouths to feed, they will eat all their animals very quickly without acres of food crops.
The 'Winter camp' isn't going to show its worth until Winter of course and since it's currently early Spring that is being shown (that's earlier this year), it will be months before it becomes useful. I wonder will the group last until this Winter? It will be interesting if they are all still in the rather exposed and lightweight shelter by then.

Anton does seem to have some good ideas regarding longer term planning but he also seems to have a very strong loner mentality and seems very poor at diplomacy/getting his ideas across. Not a good scenario when there are so many clueless 20-somethings around who just want to mess around and who have absolutely no concept of anything not happening right now in their personal bubble. You need to be able to manage them somehow and going off on and living on your own in the shed isn't going to help you win hearts and minds.

The vet may be inexperienced but I can't believe he thought that letting livestock wander around the camp like they are pets was a good idea. Common sense would tell you that they are going to crap all over the place, steal food and maybe eat stuff that will make them sick. You don't even need to be a vet to know that.
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Old 22-07-2016, 01:14
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Exactly cheese head, exactly, as Sly would say. Everyone who has ever been around goats for even a little while know they are mental little creatures. They will eat absolutely anything, unlike sheep, which just graze normally. That is why goats often used be tethered to a specific area, so they could not wander off and eat other animals feed or plastic or anything else for that matter. That young, inexperienced vet is going to have more problems.
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Old 22-07-2016, 10:26
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I wouldn't cope on there. Survival skills would be fine but coping with that bunch of selfish morons would do my head in. I'd most likely commit a murder. I'm 100% with Anton.
I'd much rather be myself for a year than stuck with this lot, my idea of hell.
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