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Old 26-07-2016, 22:37
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Maybe the programme makers were getting shirty, but no, I'm amazed at the police getting involved. Unless they have nothing else to do up there.
Well, if the boat people were actually part of staff/crew then maybe they were able to deliver something that was requested, e.g. recreational drugs?
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Old 26-07-2016, 23:29
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Maybe the programme makers were getting shirty, but no, I'm amazed at the police getting involved. Unless they have nothing else to do up there.
It is Police Service of Scotland so they do have strange priorities. They are thin on the ground, there is an office in Strontian but not sure if manned.
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Old 27-07-2016, 01:25
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Was this filmed last year? March 2015 to March 2016? Or is it happening now? Surely they're not planning to show it every week from now until March?
Good question, I was thinking exactly the same, fairly certain, Paul McGann (narrator), said last week that it was March 2016 and I think they were only looking for participants online late last year.

Each programme seems to cover about three weeks as they we are now up Mid-April.
I imagine that will facilitate a number of little breaks in the series, for example when Humans and other big shows return. An unbroken run for eleven months would get a bit boring to say the least.
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Old 27-07-2016, 12:15
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I was astonished to see a group of girls swimming in the loch in March. It must be freezing in there at that time of year.
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Old 27-07-2016, 13:40
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Clearly C4 have learned nothing from Castaway 2000. They should not have announced this show until the year was over. Now they'll get numerous wannabees invading the camp looking for their 15 minutes of fame.

Eden seems a little too populated by bright young things to be a real social experiment and, predictably, they are already thinking more about coupling up than survival. Whilst Castaway 2000 was somewhat less about real survival, it felt more real and interesting. It's a shame they've never rerun that show.
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Old 27-07-2016, 14:54
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Clearly C4 have learned nothing from Castaway 2000. They should not have announced this show until the year was over. Now they'll get numerous wannabees invading the camp looking for their 15 minutes of fame.

Eden seems a little too populated by bright young things to be a real social experiment and, predictably, they are already thinking more about coupling up than survival. Whilst Castaway 2000 was somewhat less about real survival, it felt more real and interesting. It's a shame they've never rerun that show.
"Numerous wannabees" can't invade the camp unless they are taken on and that remains to be seen. I guess there might be a capacity to take on some potentials when/if some members drop out but they will need to have some skills i.e. not just be eye candy.
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Old 27-07-2016, 15:09
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"Numerous wannabees" can't invade the camp unless they are taken on and that remains to be seen. I guess there might be a capacity to take on some potentials when/if some members drop out but they will need to have some skills i.e. not just be eye candy.
He means people going up to the camp uninvited.
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Old 27-07-2016, 16:31
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He means people going up to the camp uninvited.
I am sure there is some kind of strategy in place to prevent that. If not, the wannabes are hardly likely to be televised anyway.
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Old 27-07-2016, 19:09
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Noticed a few smokers in Eden, bet they haven't got a full years supply of tobacco. Could get interesting if they have to all quit at once.
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Old 27-07-2016, 19:23
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Noticed a few smokers in Eden, bet they haven't got a full years supply of tobacco. Could get interesting if they have to all quit at once.
Maybe not just tobacco...see my post above #151 (re. possible reason for a police visit)
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Old 27-07-2016, 20:01
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Noticed a few smokers in Eden, bet they haven't got a full years supply of tobacco. Could get interesting if they have to all quit at once.
Speaking about smoking I was disappointed the campers were allowed to bring in 66litres of personal goods like tobacco and junk food. I'd be more impressed if these people had started weaning themselves off these things they crave/are addicted to in preparation for the show.

All these things, along with the chocolate drop-off wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't advertised the show as back to basics with absolutely no help.
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Old 27-07-2016, 21:00
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Speaking about smoking I was disappointed the campers were allowed to bring in 66litres of personal goods like tobacco and junk food. I'd be more impressed if these people had started weaning themselves off these things they crave/are addicted to in preparation for the show.

All these things, along with the chocolate drop-off wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't advertised the show as back to basics with absolutely no help.
Did they say 'with absolutely no help'? I don't remember that - I am sure it would have stood out to me if that is the case.
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Old 27-07-2016, 23:59
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Did they say 'with absolutely no help'? I don't remember that - I am sure it would have stood out to me if that is the case.
The exact words from the trailer were "alone and cut off from civilisation" which I interpreted as having no help bar an emergency. Lack of sugar or chocolate cravings are not an emergency to me. It's alright though, now I know how it is I'll just watch as it is and not expecting a different kind of show
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Old 28-07-2016, 07:06
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The camp he is building is for 8 people..for that snow we saw in the preview. I'm biased anyway he's my favourite
I can understand his frustration with some of the group and his comment about 'living with a bunch of kids' or whatever it was, he is thinking in practical terms of survival while a lot of them are going more the 'kumbaya' route imo.

I don't equate building a community as having to all live under one roof, also there was a lot of moaning that he was taking materials etc to build the winter lodge, a lodge that slept 8 so not all for him, that what they had was meant for everyone, well by that reasoning then he was only taking what he was entitled to, a share of what was available,

Personally I would rather spend time with him than the somewhat airy fairy and very lazy imo Tara or the yogo instructor girl
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Old 28-07-2016, 12:49
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I am sure there is some kind of strategy in place to prevent that. If not, the wannabes are hardly likely to be televised anyway.
Apparently they've built a long fence right around the compound (which has p1ssed of the locals.

Speaking about smoking I was disappointed the campers were allowed to bring in 66litres of personal goods like tobacco and junk food. I'd be more impressed if these people had started weaning themselves off these things they crave/are addicted to in preparation for the show.

All these things, along with the chocolate drop-off wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't advertised the show as back to basics with absolutely no help.
I don't think they described it as "back to basics with absolutely no help", hence them being allowed to take in anything they could carry. It's not a start from scratch show with no modern knowledge/devices/utensils like 10,000 BC was. They've not been stripped of 21st century possessions or clothing/boots. It's just a case of being dropped off there with whatever they could pack in their rucksacks along with whatever they were provided with to start them off (building materials, food, seeds, livestock etc) and see what happens over the course of the year.
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Old 28-07-2016, 15:44
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Apparently they've built a long fence right around the compound (which has p1ssed of the locals.



I don't think they described it as "back to basics with absolutely no help", hence them being allowed to take in anything they could carry. It's not a start from scratch show with no modern knowledge/devices/utensils like 10,000 BC was. They've not been stripped of 21st century possessions or clothing/boots. It's just a case of being dropped off there with whatever they could pack in their rucksacks along with whatever they were provided with to start them off (building materials, food, seeds, livestock etc) and see what happens over the course of the year.
This is very true, hence they were provided with seeds and tuber supplies sufficient to feed all of them, if planted in time, oops. I hope they remember to keep some of the potatoes to plant as they are perhaps the most productive of their crops.
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Old 28-07-2016, 16:01
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Apparently they've built a long fence right around the compound (which has p1ssed of the locals.
There as a planning application for change of use.

15/04743/FUL
Temporary change of use of forestry to film set & associated works
It shows the area on a map.

There also been this

Section 11, Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003
Application for order to exempt land from access rights
Gorteneorn – Ardnamurchan Estate


Summary

Description: Application to exempt land from access rights, 2.4ha at Gorteneorn –
Ardnamurchan Estate

Recommendation: To agree that the draft order contained in Annex A to this report
be put out to public consultation and thereafter forwarded to the Scottish Ministers
for confirmation.

Ward: 22 Fort William and Ardnamurchan

1. PROPOSED ACCESS EXEMPTION

1.1 This application is made under section 11 of the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003
by KEO Films. The applicant wishes to develop and deliver a TV series based
upon a genuine wilderness experience in a remote location. The site described
below has been chosen for filming during the period 7 March 2016 and 20 March
2017. The draft order exempting the site from the access rights that would
otherwise be available is included as Annex A to this report. As the duration of the
proposed exemption exceeds 6 days, the order will require to be confirmed by
Scottish Ministers.
It has been granted
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Old 28-07-2016, 17:31
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I'm sure there are medics on hand in case a tree falls on someone. Same with all these so called survival programmes. The goats are set to be nothing but trouble now they've been treated like cats and are into everything.
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Old 28-07-2016, 18:13
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I'm sure there are medics on hand in case a tree falls on someone. Same with all these so called survival programmes. The goats are set to be nothing but trouble now they've been treated like cats and are into everything.
They are bound to make mistakes since it would seem none of them have experience in dealing with livestock. For example, the vet is accustomed to treating sick animals but obviously didn't have the foresight to ensure that the chicken feed was safely out of grasp (even though he knew that the goat was unable to digest it)...hence why the goat succumbed to it and consequently died.
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Old 29-07-2016, 00:23
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They are bound to make mistakes since it would seem none of them have experience in dealing with livestock. For example, the vet is accustomed to treating sick animals but obviously didn't have the foresight to ensure that the chicken feed was safely out of grasp (even though he knew that the goat was unable to digest it)...hence why the goat succumbed to it and consequently died.
Yes, and the goats would be the first animals any farmer would enclose behind fences. They will eat flppin' anything and not know when to stop and it is likely more of them will succumb to bloat.

That young vet, as I pointed out before, may have only done a years practice since vet school. He is now lovestruck as well, so he even less useful to the farm animals.
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Old 30-07-2016, 18:01
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If anyone is interested in the local chat, the Facebook page for Ardnamurchan is talking about Eden, and there's a few bits about the chocolate drop.
https://www.facebook.com/kilchoan/?ref=ts&fref=ts

Thanks for that link (and posters who've made other informative links)

Very interesting, and what a beautiful place it looks.

I'm not so cynical about it as some others on here (YET ) and really enjoyed it. (Just watched both progs on catch-up)
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Old 31-07-2016, 13:40
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Just a thought but I did wonder if when the goat died whether they ate it or not? Would it have been edible if it died of bloating anyone know?

I also wondered if this was going to go on until next March. Would get boring if do.

Reference people invading the camp now it is public knowledge they are there. I guess if that little boat got there then others could as well unless the TV crew are patrolling the waters as well.
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Old 31-07-2016, 14:16
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Just a thought but I did wonder if when the goat died whether they ate it or not? Would it have been edible if it died of bloating anyone know?

I also wondered if this was going to go on until next March. Would get boring if do.

Reference people invading the camp now it is public knowledge they are there. I guess if that little boat got there then others could as well unless the TV crew are patrolling the waters as well.
I can't imagine them patrolling, probably put the word out locally about the Section 11 exemption so the biggest risk would be a yachtie mooring there without realising that it was banned. There are time limits on exemptions so I would not thought that they would ask for any longer than they need. The big question will be what Channel 4 would do if viewing figures plummeted.
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Old 31-07-2016, 14:41
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I can't imagine them patrolling, probably put the word out locally about the Section 11 exemption so the biggest risk would be a yachtie mooring there without realising that it was banned. There are time limits on exemptions so I would not thought that they would ask for any longer than they need. The big question will be what Channel 4 would do if viewing figures plummeted.
If the figures dropped significantly and members were leaving frequently.....I wonder if they would start it again with a fresh team and change/modify whatever they saw as learning curves. (Obviously designating it to be a shorter term project). Unlikely I guess.
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Old 31-07-2016, 17:43
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Just a thought but I did wonder if when the goat died whether they ate it or not? Would it have been edible if it died of bloating anyone know?

I also wondered if this was going to go on until next March. Would get boring if do.

Reference people invading the camp now it is public knowledge they are there. I guess if that little boat got there then others could as well unless the TV crew are patrolling the waters as well.
Bloating is a gastrointestinal illness. so as long as you butchered the dead goat promptly, then it would be edible. Sadly, I expect them to be faced with more dead animals soon. The young vet looks out of his depth. The goats must be fenced off on grassland only.
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