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Old 09-07-2016, 20:38
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I didn't think Harry Judd was previously trained as a dancer - don't recall hearing that the year he was in SCD.
I am glad Jay and Aliona are performing the JIVE in the Launch Show as it is the dance that everyone remembers and talks about from the last series. The reaction from everyone in the studio and at home was spontaneous.
BIBYup I agree there-Rav Wilding ex copper, Matt Baker presenter (teenage gymnast), Harry Judd pigeon toed boy bander then taught to be a lovely ballroom dancer, Tony Jacklin, Greg Wallace, Jay Mcguiness .
Celebs paired without fear or favour
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Old 09-07-2016, 21:30
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BIBYup I agree there-Rav Wilding ex copper, Matt Baker presenter (teenage gymnast), Harry Judd pigeon toed boy bander then taught to be a lovely ballroom dancer, Tony Jacklin, Greg Wallace, Jay Mcguiness .
Celebs paired without fear or favour
Can't really say she has had a really bad draw though compared to some of the other female dancers.
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Old 09-07-2016, 21:57
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BIBYup I agree there-Rav Wilding ex copper, Matt Baker presenter (teenage gymnast), Harry Judd pigeon toed boy bander then taught to be a lovely ballroom dancer, Tony Jacklin, Greg Wallace, Jay Mcguiness .
Celebs paired without fear or favour
Can't really say she has had a really bad draw though compared to some of the other female dancers.
Oh and of course Johnny Ball --celeb who was dancing with her when she fractured her ankle. He danced with Iveta but unfortunately left the competition in the first week
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Old 09-07-2016, 22:02
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Can't really say she has had a really bad draw though compared to some of the other female dancers.
If you add in Johnny Ball, it seems about average, really - 2 older (aka not expected to last that long), a bit younger but still not expected to go far with Greg, Rav who could possibly be in the 'on paper' category (younger, fit but still a bit pants) and 3 'with potential' - who still have to engage with the voters..
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Old 09-07-2016, 22:32
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If you add in Johnny Ball, it seems about average, really - 2 older (aka not expected to last that long), a bit younger but still not expected to go far with Greg, Rav who could possibly be in the 'on paper' category (younger, fit but still a bit pants) and 3 'with potential' - who still have to engage with the voters..
Who has a had a better recent draw out of the female dancers in recent years? Karen has been there a while and her best dancer has been Mark Wright!

Of course some of the male dancers like Pasha have had better partners I will concede that.
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Old 09-07-2016, 22:44
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Who has a had a better recent draw out of the female dancers in recent years? Karen has been there a while and her best dancer has been Mark Wright!

Of course some of the male dancers like Pasha have had better partners I will concede that.
I don't think Karen's done too badly. Nicky Byrne was disappointing, but you'd have said at the outset he looked like a contender; Mark was okay and they got to the finals; Jeremy and Dave - definitely NOT contender material, but both popular, likeable duffers.
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Old 09-07-2016, 22:49
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Who has a had a better recent draw out of the female dancers in recent years? Karen has been there a while and her best dancer has been Mark Wright!

Of course some of the male dancers like Pasha have had better partners I will concede that.
Janette --Jake Wood (an excellent salsa) /Peter Andre (expected to be good)
Kristina--Simon Webbe / Ben Cohen/Jason Donovan
Natalie -Ricky Whittle /Scott Maslen
Karen -- Mark Ramprakesh
Flavia--Louis Smith / Matt di Angelo
Karen---Nick Byrne/Mark Wright
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Old 09-07-2016, 22:54
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He'd have scored 40 had it been performed later in the series but the judges had to give him somewhere to go.

Aliona was one of the best female pros Strictly has ever employed. An excellent teacher and skilled and innovative choreographer.

No pro but Aliona could have brought that jive performance out of Jay.
Agree, agree oh and agree! I've just had a re run of all the dances Aliona has ever appeared in from the year 2009, yes that's how I choose to spend my Saturday's Anyways all I can say is she was and is heads and shoulders above the rest of the pros she gives me chills when I watch her dance, she literally floats and doesn't tend to force facial expressions when not needed, which actually takes away from the dancing I think some pros need to take a look at Aliona, I just wished that strictly had her more as a main role in a pro dance it was mainly the Clifton's and Janette/Aljaz I'm super sad that she isn't returning, for the first time I really did wish the papers were not utter BS as usual.
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Old 09-07-2016, 22:55
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Janette --Jake Wood (an excellent salsa) /Peter Andre (expected to be good)
Kristina--Simon Webbe / Ben Cohen
Natalie -Ricky Whittle /Scott Maslen
Karen -- Mark Ramprakesh
Flavia--Louis Smith / Matt di Angelo
None of them reached three finals and won twice though. You know what good on her you have to ride your luck. I didn't like Matt Baker much, but Harry Judd's ballroom was among the best by a male celeb and Jay was OK as well.
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Old 09-07-2016, 22:56
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Janette --Jake Wood (an excellent salsa) /Peter Andre (expected to be good)
Kristina--Simon Webbe / Ben Cohen
Natalie -Ricky Whittle /Scott Maslen
Karen -- Mark Ramprakesh
Flavia--Louis Smith / Matt di Angelo
Kristina also danced with Jason Donovan.

Edit: You edited your post while I was posting this!
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Old 09-07-2016, 22:59
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None of them reached three finals and won twice though. You know what good on her you have to ride your luck. I didn't like Matt Baker much, but Harry Judd's ballroom was among the best by a male celeb and Jay was OK as well.
Yes but maybe, just maybe, Aliona got to three finals and won two because she did a darned good job ....
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Old 09-07-2016, 23:02
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None of them reached three finals and won twice though. You know what good on her you have to ride your luck. I didn't like Matt Baker much, but Harry Judd's ballroom was among the best by a male celeb and Jay was OK as well.
Well, no one had won twice before this series but given that some of the pro's have been there for a good length of time it was going to happen eventually.

Lilia probably has a comparable record - a semi-final, 2 finals and a win.
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Old 09-07-2016, 23:03
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None of them reached three finals and won twice though. You know what good on her you have to ride your luck. I didn't like Matt Baker much, but Harry Judd's ballroom was among the best by a male celeb and Jay was OK as well.
Yup. As none of them really know what they're going to get in the way of possible talent to mould into ballroom/latin dancers they do all have to have that element of luck. Add to that the hard work and training undertaken and we have our Saturday night viewing sorted.
Only to be followed up by a tour for those lucky enough to extend their viewing pleasure.
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Old 09-07-2016, 23:11
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Well, no one had won twice before this series but given that some of the pro's have been there for a good length of time it was going to happen eventually.

Lilia probably has a comparable record - a semi-final, 2 finals and a win.
Yes you are right about Lilia.
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:25
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Well I'm definitely awarding you the record for the most rude comment.
True though. Your first sentence was ridiculous.

Maybe you should research your facts first?
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Old 10-07-2016, 08:29
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we knew this already
But very recently, it was reported that she was going to be doing some choreography and would be a stand-in reserve dancer.

I think BBC protected her overmuch really....that's my perception anyway.
Protected her? She was booted out twice before the PTB saw sense!
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:42
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I don't think the judge's scores were that great I can't think of the last time a last year's winner opened the new season either.

Anyway, I'm very glad that Vilani isn't returning. She only seemed to shine when she got a ringer.
did you watch the 2015 Launch Show?

guess not - otherwise you would know that Caroline and Pasha danced, Abbey and Aljaz performed the year before too

its really NOT unusual for the winner of Strictly to dance at the Launch Show
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Old 10-07-2016, 13:13
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Don't think Flackers had done any dancing since her tour. Jay should be OK because he is doing that Robin Windsor tour so hopefully it won't be a total write off.
Caroline was very busy too ... with X Factor ... I think she had very limited practice time and you're definitely going to be rusty if you haven't kept up.
Hope Jay will get lots of practice time but he could probably do that jive in his sleep!
I don't think Caroline danced the dances she did on tour (which was not with Pasha anyway) ... didn't they do some sort of ill advised medley?
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Old 10-07-2016, 14:20
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She certainly did and it was shocking, she'd forgotten everything she'd been taught.

Think it's been going on for few series. I seem to remember, for reasons unknown, Rachel Stevens and Lisa Snowdon returning one year ( not absolutely 100% it was for the opening show), Lisa Snowdon was stumbling around like a p*ssed aunt at a wedding reception after one too many Blue WKDs.

At least with J and A you know it'll be good. I'm not particularly a Jay fan but I remember when they did it in week 3, it just exploded! Though, hopefully, Jay will say no to that hideous wig.
Rachel and Lisa was the Series 7 final, which was jam-packed with filler because there were only the two finalists. As far as I remember the only recent winner not to return at any point in the next series was Kara.

Caroline was very busy too ... with X Factor ... I think she had very limited practice time and you're definitely going to be rusty if you haven't kept up.
Hope Jay will get lots of practice time but he could probably do that jive in his sleep!
I don't think Caroline danced the dances she did on tour (which was not with Pasha anyway) ... didn't they do some sort of ill advised medley?
Caroline did the salsa when she came back - IIRC on tour she did Charleston and A. Smooth.
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Old 10-07-2016, 14:27
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Rachel and Lisa was the Series 7 final, which was jam-packed with filler because there were only the two finalists. As far as I remember the only recent winner not to return at any point in the next series was Kara.
Rachel and Lisa were the same series as Tom Chambers. There were three finalists that year. Or are you talking about when they came back? I'm confused.
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Old 10-07-2016, 14:31
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Yes sorry I mean they came back for the S7 finale. They did their return dance whilst the votes were being counted.
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Old 10-07-2016, 18:51
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Louis and Flavia also returned for their victory dance in the launch show
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Old 10-07-2016, 22:32
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Yes sorry I mean they came back for the S7 finale. They did their return dance whilst the votes were being counted.
Ah, thanks. I couldn't remember.
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Old 11-07-2016, 03:08
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Rachel and Lisa was the Series 7 final, which was jam-packed with filler because there were only the two finalists. As far as I remember the only recent winner not to return at any point in the next series was Kara.



Caroline did the salsa when she came back - IIRC on tour she did Charleston and A. Smooth.
Rachel and Lisa were in the series before, the one when we kept on voting John seargeant through week after week after week etc....Chris Hollins and Ricky whittle were in the series 7 final Monkseal in which Chris ended up the winner.
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:08
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Rachel and Lisa were in the series before, the one when we kept on voting John seargeant through week after week after week etc....Chris Hollins and Ricky whittle were in the series 7 final Monkseal in which Chris ended up the winner.
The conversation's about returning the following series for a winner's dance (or in this a runners' up dance ) - Rachel and Lisa from series 6 appearing in the final of series 7.
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