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Old 10-07-2016, 13:08
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I'm at the point of being completely distracted from what's being said in shop scenes due to the appalling layout and stock placement. Labels all over the place, stock looks chucked onto shelves, and displayed the wrong way, those cardboard things that sell cotton and birthday candles etc hung willy nilly all over the place. Isn't Dev supposed to be a businessman??? There's no way he would have a shop that looked so shitty.
I hope Kate Oates has plans for it - maybe make it an on-set shop with a window - make it looks realistic - ditto the Kabin and all the toy tat that never sells.
I'd welcome both shops to merge - have it next to Victoria Court where the mysterious tarpaulin has been for about 14 months - Turn No.15 into a student house, demolish the Kabin (which really should have been destroyed by the roaring tram) - have Rita move to Victoria Court. Dev and the kids move away - Jimmi gets hammier by the year - to the point where it stopped being funny 5 years ago!
I WANT TO GET MY HANDS ON CORONATION STREET!!!!!
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Old 10-07-2016, 13:17
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I like your idea of the student house. Most houses like those in the Street are snapped up as buy-to-lets probably with the student market in mind. Would bring in some younger ones too and not necessarily long term characters as students chop and change with their accommodation from year to year.
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Old 10-07-2016, 13:41
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OP, have you considered counselling (as a recipient, not source thereof)?
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Old 10-07-2016, 13:44
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OP, have you considered counselling (as a recipient, not source thereof)?
Yes, I send the bill to Stuart Blackburn
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Old 10-07-2016, 13:47
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nothing wrong with the shop in my opinion.

merging the Kabin and the shop is ridiculous, next you will be wanting Walmart on the cobbles
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Old 10-07-2016, 13:53
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nothing wrong with the shop in my opinion.

merging the Kabin and the shop is ridiculous, next you will be wanting Walmart on the cobbles
I hope you don't own a corner shop
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Old 10-07-2016, 14:01
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I hope you don't own a corner shop
no but I have been in plenty to know that Dev's is pretty spacious
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Old 10-07-2016, 14:34
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Dev's shop must be a priority for Kate Oates

Along with the Rovers its always been a place where everyone goes
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Old 10-07-2016, 15:19
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Dev's shop must be a priority for Kate Oates

Along with the Rovers its always been a place where everyone goes
Only when the plot requires it, though. It can't make a profit, and will surely go the way of Dev's six other shops (and six mistresses with six children - where are they now?). Or maybe it was seven; it's hard to keep track of mistresses and children.
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Old 10-07-2016, 15:44
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Only when the plot requires it, though. It can't make a profit, and will surely go the way of Dev's six other shops (and six mistresses with six children - where are they now?). Or maybe it was seven; it's hard to keep track of mistresses and children.
It can't make a profit. There's generally only one person in there...
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Old 10-07-2016, 16:23
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nothing wrong with the shop in my opinion.

merging the Kabin and the shop is ridiculous, next you will be wanting Walmart on the cobbles
The shop is absolutely awful, as a shop manager I notice these things. It needs serious help
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Old 10-07-2016, 16:42
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The shop is absolutely awful, as a shop manager I notice these things. It needs serious help
THere is a shop near me that is in the front room of a house like devs and you have to walk sideways down the aisle and hope that there is no one at the counter who will try and get out before you have made it to the counter

so no it isn't actually that awful in my opinion and makes quite good use of the space, could prob do better but would prob make it hard for filming angles.

but then thats the point it has to be realistic and they have to be able to fit the cameras im to film. If they did a rovers to it and made it like the tardis everyone would still complain
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Old 10-07-2016, 16:53
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I like your idea of the student house. Most houses like those in the Street are snapped up as buy-to-lets probably with the student market in mind. Would bring in some younger ones too and not necessarily long term characters as students chop and change with their accommodation from year to year.
I think we've got more than enough younger ones in Corrie anyway. They tend not to be very interesting characters as they need time to develop and for viewers to get to know them. I don't think students there for term times for a year or so would add much to Corrie.
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Old 10-07-2016, 18:37
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I worked in a corner shop for years and Devs is as realistic as they come.
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Old 10-07-2016, 18:44
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Yes, I send the bill to Stuart Blackburn
Surely he spent it on himself and his writing team years ago?!
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Old 10-07-2016, 19:12
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nothing wrong with the shop in my opinion.

merging the Kabin and the shop is ridiculous, next you will be wanting Walmart on the cobbles
Walmart wouldn't survive, they cater to a more diserning customer base.
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Old 10-07-2016, 19:38
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The main point VC is trying to make is one that I agree with completely: the shop set is such a mess that its stretches believability.

For me, this isn't about whether or not Dev's shop would still be in business in the real world, but it's about the actual set. Since it was renovated in 2004 following Maya's rampage, the sets and props department have been so lazy with the interior of the corner shop it's laughable. For me, it's the smallest details that make a show like Corrie really work. If these small details are lacking, I find it hard to believe in anything else I see on screen as it highlights that the people in charge can't really be bothered to aim for perfection or pay attention to detail.

Instead all we get is a shoddy job, something that's reflected in the overall quality of the show at the moment.

In days gone by the corner shop set used to be one of Corrie's best. From its earliest days in the 60s to as late as 2004, the shop was generally well-organised and looked like a shop. The shelves were full, bursting almost and products were displayed as they would be in a shop (all facing forward, neatly stacked), were departmentalised and often with special offers prominently displayed. Here's a picture of Alf in the shop in the 80s. Note the cereal boxes and other packets all facing forward and prominent fruit and veg display behind him.

EDIT: Another pic from the mid-90s when Reg and Maureen Holdsworth had the shop. Again, tins and packets are stacked as they would be in a real shop, all facing forward. The shelves look full and inviting.

If you look at the corner shop now, all you see is messy shelves, with products slung around willy nilly. This screen grab is from Thursday this week. Cereal boxes stacked on their side, bags of porridge or rice dumped on the shelves, clearly plastic fruit and veg in a tatty looking display and a great chunk of prime selling space to the left of Mary completely empty. Here's another example (again featuring Mary, sorry!): fancy tins of biscuits next to cleaning products and toilet rolls? These products should be departmentalised more believably. That's without even mentioning that the packets and bottles are all stacked in a way that you would never see in a real shop. They should all be facing forward to attract the customer's eye.

Are we just being picky? Are we being ridiculous? Does it really matter? Do we need to get a life?

That's up to you to decide.

Put simply, the corner shop does not look like a real shop. These are the absolute basics of Corrie and if the show can't get this right then why should they get anything else right? The production team needs to be called out on this and I'm happy to be one of the people doing so.
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Old 10-07-2016, 19:40
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I think we've got more than enough younger ones in Corrie anyway. They tend not to be very interesting characters as they need time to develop and for viewers to get to know them. I don't think students there for term times for a year or so would add much to Corrie.
It would be more realistic. They don't have to be forefront characters, but they would definitely add something to the show. Apart from anythin else they would be an added topic of conversation for the regulars.
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Old 10-07-2016, 19:47
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Is Dev still using a pricing gun rather than a barcode scanner? That always sticks out for me (not that, on the other hand, I'm that bothered by it in the scheme of things).
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Old 10-07-2016, 19:48
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The main point VC is trying to make is one that I agree with completely: the shop set is such a mess that its stretches believability.
I agree with most of what you say but is it not all to do with advertising and product placement? How on earth are they going to attract major sponsors for products displayed in the shop if Kelloggs, McVities etc etc have their products fully on display for free? I presumed that is why many of the products are turned away from the front so as not to be seen to be promoting their products.

Our local shop has a much better layout but not that many more customers than Dev's shop and I often wonder how they manage to make ends meet.
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Old 10-07-2016, 19:50
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It would be more realistic. They don't have to be forefront characters, but they would definitely add something to the show. Apart from anythin else they would be an added topic of conversation for the regulars.
Corrie just needs something, anything to shake up the status quo. They've been following the same tired formats with new characters (especially younger ones) for at least the past decade if not longer. I would welcome anything that introduces characters that are different from the usual crop of bores.
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Old 10-07-2016, 20:00
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I agree with most of what you say but is it not all to do with advertising and product placement? How on earth are they going to attract major sponsors for products displayed in the shop if Kelloggs, McVities etc etc have their products fully on display for free? I presumed that is why many of the products are turned away from the front so as not to be seen to be promoting their products.

Our local shop has a much better layout but not that many more customers than Dev's shop and I often wonder how they manage to make ends meet.
This is something that baffles me quite a bit. It was never a problem in the past as the pics from the 80s shows. Real brands were frequently on display and that was during the days of much stricter product placement rules. I always remember a really prominent 'Mighty White' bread advert that was in the corner shop in the late 80s and 90s yet Corrie obviously never got called into question about it.

What's really disappointing is that product placement is now allowed and could be a decent source of revenue for Corrie and ITV. Emmerdale has recently been called into question for having too much product placement, yet Corrie has next to none. My reading of this is that the Corrie production team can't really be bothered to do anything that's new or original. Nobody can be bothered to talk to Kellogs/McVities/whoever else about a product placement deal that will fill the shelves of the shop with real products or one off displays. We got the Nationwide cashpoint shoved into the shop in a deal that was probably done by the ITV advertising department rather than the props department. Surely both teams should be working together to get the most out of the change to these rules?

Why hasn't someone spoken to Kellogs/McVities/whoever else about some product placement deals? Surely there's enough variety in the types of products in a corner shop that they could offer some kind of deal? The Corrie set team could allocate the most prominent shelf spaces in the corner shop to a specific product/brand (bread, cereals, biscuits, washing powder/liquid, toilet rolls, baked beans/tins and so on) with the ITV advertising people selling it like any other advertising space.
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Old 10-07-2016, 20:06
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There was a wonderful scene when Bet returned to the corner shop and she told Sunita how the counter used to be on the other side and preferred it that way. Wasn't naval gazing or patronising, and clearly written in mind to reward the older viewers.

It's little scenes like that which made Corrie worth watching. Today everything's set in its ways. Shrine-like! You wouldn't have guessed the Rovers had a fire if you missed the last decade of Corrie.
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Old 10-07-2016, 20:10
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Until a fw months ago I worked in a family run card shop - and dev's is much much more organised!!! There was stock even older than me (i'm 34), things which had been given to the boss as bday and xmas presents, even folders etc which his daughter had written her name in! And we also had pricing guns, none of that fancy barcoded stuff for us. The boss as also very wealthy and a real penny pincher. Dev could win businessman of the year compared to him!
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Old 10-07-2016, 20:22
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The main point VC is trying to make is one that I agree with completely: the shop set is such a mess that its stretches believability.

For me, this isn't about whether or not Dev's shop would still be in business in the real world, but it's about the actual set. Since it was renovated in 2004 following Maya's rampage, the sets and props department have been so lazy with the interior of the corner shop it's laughable. For me, it's the smallest details that make a show like Corrie really work. If these small details are lacking, I find it hard to believe in anything else I see on screen as it highlights that the people in charge can't really be bothered to aim for perfection or pay attention to detail.

Instead all we get is a shoddy job, something that's reflected in the overall quality of the show at the moment.

In days gone by the corner shop set used to be one of Corrie's best. From its earliest days in the 60s to as late as 2004, the shop was generally well-organised and looked like a shop. The shelves were full, bursting almost and products were displayed as they would be in a shop (all facing forward, neatly stacked), were departmentalised and often with special offers prominently displayed. Here's a picture of Alf in the shop in the 80s. Note the cereal boxes and other packets all facing forward and prominent fruit and veg display behind him.

EDIT: Another pic from the mid-90s when Reg and Maureen Holdsworth had the shop. Again, tins and packets are stacked as they would be in a real shop, all facing forward. The shelves look full and inviting.

If you look at the corner shop now, all you see is messy shelves, with products slung around willy nilly. This screen grab is from Thursday this week. Cereal boxes stacked on their side, bags of porridge or rice dumped on the shelves, clearly plastic fruit and veg in a tatty looking display and a great chunk of prime selling space to the left of Mary completely empty. Here's another example (again featuring Mary, sorry!): fancy tins of biscuits next to cleaning products and toilet rolls? These products should be departmentalised more believably. That's without even mentioning that the packets and bottles are all stacked in a way that you would never see in a real shop. They should all be facing forward to attract the customer's eye.

Are we just being picky? Are we being ridiculous? Does it really matter? Do we need to get a life?

That's up to you to decide.

Put simply, the corner shop does not look like a real shop. These are the absolute basics of Corrie and if the show can't get this right then why should they get anything else right? The production team needs to be called out on this and I'm happy to be one of the people doing so.
Precisely my point - that picture illustrates it perfectly

https://s31.postimg.org/3wa2hpgff/Sc...t_19_33_45.png
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