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Old 11-07-2016, 20:10
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Billy Mitchell's appalling bigoted behaviour just makes me so angry. Surely there really aren't people around, of his age and upbringing, who react like that?TBH the whole storyline had dragged (pardon the pun!) on for far too long and it sickens me. If Les wants to dress up then let him.So what? His wife needs a good shake!
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Old 11-07-2016, 20:14
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I'm sorry but Sharon's behaviour is making me more angry!
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Old 11-07-2016, 20:22
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After everything that Les and Pam have done for Billy, especially with Janet and I really don't believe Billy would be that small minded!

Sharon's reaction to Michelle's letter is utter fooking BULLSHITE!
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Old 11-07-2016, 20:32
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Billy is an idiot. Tonight he was
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Old 11-07-2016, 20:37
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I also can't believe how Billy is reacting! To call Les a pervert is so utterly ridiculous! It doesn't even make sense!
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Old 11-07-2016, 20:44
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Pams heavily bigoted attitude doesn't make 100% sense either. Especially when she is SO open and accepting of her gay grandson... she wouldn't be that closed minded by les. Not completely.

It doesn't ring true all these horrified reactions to les. The writers are actually sending out a horrible message and portrayal of society. They are making out like the whole world would cower in disgust that less throws on a wig and skirt. Most people these days wouldn't give a toss.

It's really annoying me the way this farce of reactions has all been portrayed.

Even Paul who knows about discrimination, isn't protesting for les enough as he naturally would.
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Old 11-07-2016, 20:46
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^^^

Agree with all of you 're Billy and Sharon's non reaction to Michelle's letter. I do hope they are trolling us with the latter.
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Old 11-07-2016, 20:54
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What's really daft is that he goes on about that to Paul, and Paul goes along with it.

A reasonably level headed bloke who is perfectly ok when it comes to either men and women being gay, or about Kyle being s transexual, and who freaks about a man who has helped him liking to wear female clothing from time to time. Surely that just doesn't make any kind of sense.

And we seem to be getting the impression that Eastenders is perfectly alright with this, and are just using it to get Paul and Ben set up in business togethet.
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:07
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Billy the bigot can f*ck off, I really wanted to punch him
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:10
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Billy the bigot can f*ck off, I really wanted to punch him
Me too, he's obviously forgotten he has those pictures of Lucy
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:15
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Mark's paternity should only have come out in the event of Ross Kemp returning to the show full-time and Susan Tully putting in an appearance.

DTC won't pull this off either if Sharon's non-reaction to Phil being involved in Dennis's death is anything to go by. It'll be another secret from the past exposed in a dud way.

And blabbing so freely just fundamentally goes against Michelle's entire character. Michelle was adamant when she left in 95 that she didn't want Grant to know. There's no way Peggy wouldn't have told him if she'd got the chance to read the letter.

Michelle didn't even like Peggy. In 95 Peggy and Sharon were at loggerheads over Sharongate and Michelle used to give Peggy dirty looks and the odd bit of lip. She was nearly thrown out of the Vic on one occasion.
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:16
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DTC gone, well not his work yet, and now the writers and head story producers need to follow him!!!!!
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:16
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So no one in soap land is to have any views that you do not accept?
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:19
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Mark's paternity should only have come out in the event of Ross Kemp returning to the show full-time and Susan Tully putting in an appearance.

DTC won't pull this off either if Sharon's non-reaction to Phil being involved in Dennis's death is anything to go by. It'll be another secret from the past exposed in a dud way.

And blabbing so freely just fundamentally goes against Michelle's entire character. Michelle was adamant when she left in 95 that she didn't want Grant to know. There's no way Peggy wouldn't have told if she'd got the chance to read the letter.

Michelle didn't even like Peggy. In 95 Peggy and Sharon were at loggerheads over Sharongate and Michelle used to give Peggy dirty looks and the odd bit of lip. She was nearly thrown out of the Vic on one occasion.
Dtc was so hellbent on getting the secret out that he doesn't care how its done, he just wanted to be the one to do it. you can say what you like about the previous producers but at least they stayed true to the history of the show and kept the secret.

It is all pointless to now come out and without michelle on the square
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:22
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Dtc was so hellbent on getting the secret out that he doesn't care how its done, he just wanted to be the one to do it. you can say what you like about the previous producers but at least they stayed true to the history of the show and kept the secret.

It is all pointless to now come out and without michelle on the square
It's all a bit scorched earth. Wrecking the show in the long term.
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:28
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It's all a bit scorched earth. Wrecking the show in the long term.
yep! him killing lucy was worse than kirkwood killing pat.

him changing the shows history and bringing kathy back from the dead for that gavin mess

then of course the ret-conning to connect the older ones and the hubbards another damp squib and non story
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:41
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The show is proper grim atm.

DTC lasting legacy, why do they always mess it up in the end, make no sense how the quality nosedive with in one year of his tenure its like they just got so lazy and shut up shop.

I don't even want to think what a farcical Grant's next stint is gonna be like!
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:49
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The show is proper grim atm.

DTC lasting legacy, why do they always mess it up in the end, make no sense how the quality nosedive with in one year of his tenure its like they just got so lazy and shut up shop.

I don't even want to think what a farcical Grant's next stint is gonna be like!
the thing is are viewers who didnt watch 20years ago going to be interested in two unknown characters coming in and having a I'm your daddy storyline.

I watched and I am not interested in seeing it
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:58
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the thing is are viewers who didnt watch 20years ago going to be interested in two unknown characters coming in and having a I'm your daddy storyline.

I watched and I am not interested in seeing it
Probably not, I think the ship has sailed and they should leave it to rest, rather see Courtney back then a actor with a dodgy american accent, remember Vicky circa 2003 *shudders*

I just don't think the impact will not be as good as it could of been with Michelle and she ain't returning and Grant's only back for 3 weeks and look how they've handled Peggy's death and funeral! my faith in them to do right ain't high tbh.
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Old 11-07-2016, 22:23
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Have I missed something? I started this thread about Les's cross-dressing and pleased to see some really good comments then suddenly we are talking about Michelle and some sort of secret? 😟 Please can we keep to the original subject.
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Old 11-07-2016, 22:28
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Me too, he's obviously forgotten he has those pictures of Lucy
Where did he get those pictures of Lucy from?
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Old 11-07-2016, 22:29
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Billy the bigot can f*ck off, I really wanted to punch him
Even though you don't like Billy do you like Honey?
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Old 11-07-2016, 22:40
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Where did he get those pictures of Lucy from?
I can't remember as to whether it was mentioned on screen or not how he got them, I guess he must have taken them himself or obtained them from Lucy's social media account possibly?
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Old 11-07-2016, 22:49
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Have I missed something? I started this thread about Les's cross-dressing and pleased to see some really good comments then suddenly we are talking about Michelle and some sort of secret? 😟 Please can we keep to the original subject.
maybe you should have made your title clearer

my fault as I replied to your thread first
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Old 11-07-2016, 23:15
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I can understand Pam finding it hard to accept les's cross dressing as she had been with Les for years and had no idea about Christine. From that point of view she probably feels like she's an idiot for not knowing or feels that she doesn't know les at all. But I don't think that it is in keeping with her character that she would be ashamed by people knowing or that - as she said - she actually agreed with what Billy had to say about it all. Pam is more broad minded than that and after the initial shock in think she would have accepted Christine as being part of les's life even if she didn't want anything to do with her.
I also don't think the way Billy had reacted is true to his character - he probably would react like that about someone he doesn't know very well, but les and Pam have treated him like a soon and gave him a job and a chance when he had nothing. Even if he felt uncomfortable about Christine, I think it would be more realistic of Billy to just say what les does in the privacy of his own home is his business and that he doesn't want to talk about it again. But he wouldn't think he was a pervert, nor would he turn his back on him.
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