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University Challenge 2016/17
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Straker
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Horace Wimp:
“Now, now, he would have got the Game Of Thrones questions and the Stars Wars ones, had their been any ”

Hilarious.

They've had GoT and Star Wars questions in Xmas UC so clearly you've not been paying attention. Bit embarrassing for you really...
JeffG1
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“I don't see what that has to do with anything. It depends whether you've seen the film or not.”

Originally Posted by Oldvinyl:
“It has everything to do with everything. Same as all of the questions, depends whether you've read the books, seen the paintings, or listened to the music.”

You seem to be contradicting yourself. Your'e agreeing with my second sentence. So why are you saying the knowledge of books, paintings or music depends on a "working knowledge of basic pop culture"?
Baz_James
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000614/bio



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Rickman

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So you think Alan Rickman's best remembered role is one that got him 46th place on a list that hardly anybody's ever heard of? Well that explains a lot!
Straker
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“So you think Alan Rickman's best remembered role is one that got him 46th place on a list that hardly anybody's ever heard of?”

Yes. Was I not abundantly clear before?
Rroses
25-12-2016
Ah.....Hermione last time...and now the lovely Clemency....

pity they weren't up to the mark but always a pleasure.
Rroses
25-12-2016
Poor from the Question setters/Paxo , Wolff actually gave the German name for Jutland but Paxo said it was wrong and fined them five points!

"The Battle of Jutland (German: Skagerrakschlacht, the Battle of Skagerrak)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jutland
Supratad
26-12-2016
Ahh, I'm surprised he didn't protest, but then much like the battle itself, both sides laid claim to victory,
Lenitive
26-12-2016
Imagine not recognising The Broons
Oldvinyl
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“You seem to be contradicting yourself. Your'e agreeing with my second sentence. So why are you saying the knowledge of books, paintings or music depends on a "working knowledge of basic pop culture"?”

Where did I say that?
Oldvinyl
26-12-2016
Well, St Hida's romped that, despite having to carry Caldicott who contributed zero . Let's hope she ups her game in the next round!
Oldvinyl
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by Rroses:
“Poor from the Question setters/Paxo , Wolff actually gave the German name for Jutland but Paxo said it was wrong and fined them five points!

"The Battle of Jutland (German: Skagerrakschlacht, the Battle of Skagerrak)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jutland”

Fair point, but if everyone was allowed to answer questions in their native tongue Paxo would need to be multilingual.
joshua321
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by Rroses:
“Poor from the Question setters/Paxo , Wolff actually gave the German name for Jutland but Paxo said it was wrong and fined them five points!

"The Battle of Jutland (German: Skagerrakschlacht, the Battle of Skagerrak)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jutland”

That's very sloppy not to have included it on the card as an alternative. They did the same thing once when someone gave the Chinese name for the Yellow River - Huang He.

There have also been other instances but Paxman usually intimidates the contestants too much for them to speak up. I think the verification process is quite poor in fact.
JeffG1
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“a working knowledge of basic pop culture”

Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“I don't see what that has to do with anything. It depends whether you've seen the film or not.”

Originally Posted by Oldvinyl:
“It has everything to do with everything. Same as all of the questions, depends whether you've read the books, seen the paintings, or listened to the music.”

Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“You seem to be contradicting yourself. Your'e agreeing with my second sentence. So why are you saying the knowledge of books, paintings or music depends on a "working knowledge of basic pop culture"?”

Originally Posted by Oldvinyl:
“Where did I say that?”

Oh for goodness sake! Just read the quotes. You contradicted my statement that I didn't see how a working knowledge of pop culture had anything to do with recognising the film (Die Hard).
Rroses
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by Oldvinyl:
“Fair point, but if everyone was allowed to answer questions in their native tongue Paxo would need to be multilingual.”

No, he just needs the correct alternative answer given to him. Regardless of any one's native tongue.
lundavra
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by Rroses:
“No, he just needs the correct alternative answer given to him. Regardless of any one's native tongue.”

But often foreign words pronounced in the native language are not obvious to someone not speaking that language. It could get out of hand so I would hope there is a line in the rules that all answers must be in English, otherwise a lot of time could be wasted.
JeffG1
26-12-2016
There was a University Challenge earlier where the student who answered was from one of the Baltic states (I think) and gave the answer of Stravinsky's Firebird in its original Russian. He didn't know the English name of the ballet but translated it literally which gave the answer expected.
Rroses
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“But often foreign words pronounced in the native language are not obvious to someone not speaking that language. It could get out of hand so I would hope there is a line in the rules that all answers must be in English, otherwise a lot of time could be wasted.”

You're missing the point. re read what I wrote.
Baz_James
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by Rroses:
“You're missing the point. re read what I wrote.”

The question was "Which battle ... ?" which does rather imply that the usual title in English is required. The question was not "Where did the battle take place of which ...?" There is no Battle of Skaggerak listed in any English language history. Had the full term in German been given (Skagerrakschlacht) there might have been more to complain about but it would still be no more than arguable. Where local names of sites are required in geography questions, etc. this is specifically stated in the question so the presumption of answers in English is pretty clear.
Paul_Culloty
26-12-2016
Would have thought it more common to pronounce "Don Quixote" with a y sound, rather than as spelt?
prehensile
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by Paul_Culloty:
“Would have thought it more common to pronounce "Don Quixote" with a y sound, rather than as spelt?”

I was taught at school (many years ago) to say 'kee-ho-tay' but have frequently heard 'kwik-sote' as well. The latter is also used in the pronunciation of the adjective 'Quixotic'.

On a separate note I thought the overall standard tonight was pretty feeble, exempified by the fact that no-one even thought to hazard a guess at Don Quixote (however you pronounce it) given that the question mentioned that the author died in Madrid on the same day as Shakespeare.
swingaleg
26-12-2016
I thought both teams were rubbish tonight

objectively 'cos they hardly got enough points between them to get in the top 4 and subjectively because they didn't seem to know as much between them as I knew on my own

and did anyone think Will Hutton was incredibly rude to that blond woman on his left particularly when she was practically screaming 'Jurassic' at him and he was ignoring her and said 'Jura, oh Jurassic' as though he'd though of it............
Paul_Culloty
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“I thought both teams were rubbish tonight

objectively 'cos they hardly got enough points between them to get in the top 4 and subjectively because they didn't seem to know as much between them as I knew on my own

and did anyone think Will Hutton was incredibly rude to that blond woman on his left particularly when she was practically screaming 'Jurassic' at him and he was ignoring her and said 'Jura, oh Jurassic' as though he'd though of it............”

Indeed - they might have at least gone over the century if he hadn't spent half the day blathering on in a stream of consciousness!
Dr Dave
26-12-2016
I think Will Hutton must be a contender for most irritating contestant ever.
petely
26-12-2016
Originally Posted by Paul_Culloty:
“Indeed - they might have at least gone over the century if he [Hutton ] hadn't spent half the day blathering on in a stream of consciousness! ”

He works (?) for the Observer / Guardian. That is all their people can do.
ennui 57
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“The question was "Which battle ... ?" which does rather imply that the usual title in English is required. The question was not "Where did the battle take place of which ...?" There is no Battle of Skaggerak listed in any English language history. Had the full term in German been given (Skagerrakschlacht) there might have been more to complain about but it would still be no more than arguable. Where local names of sites are required in geography questions, etc. this is specifically stated in the question so the presumption of answers in English is pretty clear.”

I take your point, but I still feel sorry for the lad.

I just googled 'Battle of Skaggerak'' and, of course, Jutland came up. But, see this:

http://www.wtj.com/archives/hase_03.htm


Considering Paxman is such a sneerball on subjects that he happens to know I think that there should be some other verification process as an earlier poster said.
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