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adamlee19
12-07-2016
Have to admit Eastenders looks like it does pick up next week. But I really dont think its ben in hospital we've not seen any pics of him in their and there's no way the media would just come out and say so so dies nx week. I'm wondering if its actually Paul in hospital but for some reason has bens bank cards or something that's where they get confused about.
DreamRJ
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by adamlee19:
“Have to admit Eastenders looks like it does pick up next week. But I really dont think its ben in hospital we've not seen any pics of him in their and there's no way the media would just come out and say so so dies nx week. I'm wondering if its actually Paul in hospital but for some reason has bens bank cards or something that's where they get confused about.”

Good theory, I was just about to make a thread about this news about Bens Death next week.

No need to now. But i am shocked if it is ben, and to be honest, I really do think it is. I haven't checked his IMDB page yet, but IMDB don't update like they used to years ago. For this very reason, to stop people putting 2 and 2 together.

But Ben isn't exactly bringing much to the show at the moment anyway, and if they did do this and made it a crazy huge twist as you stated i would just feel meh, wtf BBC are you thinking. DS article that has already been posted says it is def Ben that dies and so does some of the news papers who have articles on it too.

So are all those wrong? I do not think they are. But I for one won't be happy if they do do what you said above.

But maybe this *accident* has something to do with Pauls mum maybe? maybe something happens with her in a car of some kind, or some other type of accident involving her?
adamlee19
12-07-2016
I hope its not ben but something I have noticed theirs no mention of Paul at all next week or the cockers for that matter. If it is ben that died could they have something to do with it. Was interesting to see another side to pam last night.
DreamRJ
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by adamlee19:
“I hope its not ben but something I have noticed theirs no mention of Paul at all next week or the cockers for that matter. If it is ben that died could they have something to do with it. Was interesting to see another side to pam last night.”

Yes, it was interesting to see a different side to Pam, and it also seems that Les's Heart Attack Scare made her put aside the issue with Les's cross dressing persona. But what is more interesting is Pam's face when Paul's mum came to the undertakers at the end scene. So she must have done something really terrible in the past that made Pam react in such a dramatic way. But hey, its eastenders a soap opera What do we expect.
mw0390
12-07-2016
It's so obviously gonna end up being Paul when Ian and Phil identify the body that it's not even gonna be that surprising they should of kept the whole thing secret
DreamRJ
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by mw0390:
“It's so obviously gonna end up being Paul when Ian and Phil identify the body that it's not even gonna be that surprising they should of kept the whole thing secret”

Yep it could be, I just won't be happy if this is the case.
MissMonkeyMoo
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by DreamRJ:
“Good theory, I was just about to make a thread about this news about Bens Death next week.

No need to now. But i am shocked if it is ben, and to be honest, I really do think it is. I haven't checked his IMDB page yet, but IMDB don't update like they used to years ago. For this very reason, to stop people putting 2 and 2 together.

But Ben isn't exactly bringing much to the show at the moment anyway, and if they did do this and made it a crazy huge twist as you stated i would just feel meh, wtf BBC are you thinking. DS article that has already been posted says it is def Ben that dies and so does some of the news papers who have articles on it too.

So are all those wrong? I do not think they are. But I for one won't be happy if they do do what you said above.

But maybe this *accident* has something to do with Pauls mum maybe? maybe something happens with her in a car of some kind, or some other type of accident involving her?”

None of the articles state Ben dies - they all say that the family are told he's died and that's a different thing entirely! I would be very surprised if EE took the decision to kill off Ben, especially as Harry Reid has done a fantastic job worth the character. More likely it is Paul as he is leaving anyway.
adamlee19
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by MissMonkeyMoo:
“None of the articles state Ben dies - they all say that the family are told he's died and that's a different thing entirely! I would be very surprised if EE took the decision to kill off Ben, especially as Harry Reid has done a fantastic job worth the character. More likely it is Paul as he is leaving anyway.”

My question their if its Paul where's ben. Seems more of a mystery story.
DreamRJ
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by MissMonkeyMoo:
“None of the articles state Ben dies - they all say that the family are told he's died and that's a different thing entirely! I would be very surprised if EE took the decision to kill off Ben, especially as Harry Reid has done a fantastic job worth the character. More likely it is Paul as he is leaving anyway.”

I could link you the links so you can see some of the titles they say. One says *EastEnders spoilers: Ben Mitchell's death deals heartbreaking blow to The Square after horrifying accident*

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/e...-death-8401438

Another.......
*EastEnders spoilers: Ben Mitchell to be KILLED off after suffering horrifying accident?*

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/e...killed-8388561

Okay, so yeah the second one and some others i am not linking have a question mark at the end. but the first one doesnt.

And yes the question mark might be key to the outcome.

So maybe it is going to be Paul afterall, but i will not be happy they cheated us like this again and made us think this is going to happen then twist it. Just makes me mad. It seems soaps are copying other shows that are not exactly soaps. And that upsets me.

I mean take for example that hollyoaks character that they introduced a long while back about him being an alien. I mean come on WTF, soon they will feel they can somehow bring people back to life. Even when we see them die on the shows, yes they already do for characters that we never saw their onscreen death. But still. It just infuriates me.

And i do not watch hollyoaks, i just read about it a long time ago. its a really really bad soap that one is anyway. That is why i never watch it. Most things on channel five are just soo bad. I very very rarely watch any of the channel 5 channels.
Ancalagon
12-07-2016
If it is Ben that is dead I will be utterly amazed! It's so obviously going to be Paul.

We know the actor playing Paul has left the soap for one thing. The article is very explicit about them only being told Ben is dead- I find it ridiculous that they would tell the whole family even before identifying the body.

Finally if it was Ben - Paul would almost certainly be in the pictures with the rest of the family surely? - Then again... if it does turn out to be Paul that is dead- where is Ben?

I'm really torn about the possibility of Ben being dead- I really like Harry Reid and he has revived that character so well after the mess of Ben's previous incarnation and I have grown to really like Ben.

On the other hand, If Ben is dead I know that I will get stellar performances from Steve McFadden and Adam Woodyatt- but then that's only for a short time (Like with Lucy) when it all settles we no longer then have the character anymore.

Hmm, maybe if it is Ben, Phil could get his liver lol
DreamRJ
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Hmm, maybe if it is Ben, Phil could get his liver lol”

Good point

I mean what i also forgot to say in above posts, I know too that Paul is leaving very soon too. So i can easily understand why people are thinking it will be Paul. I am starting to feel more it will be myself now, and they are misleading us yet again. Which as i said, just upsets me.
Ancalagon
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by DreamRJ:
“Good point

I mean what i also forgot to say in above posts, I know too that Paul is leaving very soon too. So i can easily understand why people are thinking it will be Paul. I am starting to feel more it will be myself now, and they are misleading us yet again. Which as i said, just upsets me.”

Yeah I can see why- I just feel insulted that the writers/producers think we won't see it coming- given that they know, we know Paul is leaving.

If it turns out to be Paul and we are meant to be "shocked" by this then the writers will have failed. I will be 1000% more shocked if it actually does turn out to be Ben that is dead.
DreamRJ
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Yeah I can see why- I just feel insulted that the writers/producers think we won't see it coming- given that they know, we know Paul is leaving.

If it turns out to be Paul and we are meant to be "shocked" by this then the writers will have failed. I will be 1000% more shocked if it actually does turn out to be Ben that is dead.”

Yeah i suppose i will too now lol.
cardiff boyo
12-07-2016
I haven't managed to read all the spoilers/threads but could it be Jay? Maybe he has been using Ben's identity to try and get a job or something
Bored_At_Work
12-07-2016
Could EE have thrown the biggest curve ball and actually lied to us all??

Could it be that Paul isn't actually leaving and Ben is, but by making it out that Paul is going nobody will expect Ben's death?

Just a thought...
DreamRJ
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by cardiff boyo:
“I haven't managed to read all the spoilers/threads but could it be Jay? Maybe he has been using Ben's identity to try and get a job or something”

Now that could be interesting too. Could well be a possibility.

Originally Posted by Bored_At_Work:
“Could EE have thrown the biggest curve ball and actually lied to us all??

Could it be that Paul isn't actually leaving and Ben is, but by making it out that Paul is going nobody will expect Ben's death?

Just a thought...”

All we can do is wait and see next week.....
SuperSoaper
12-07-2016
I think they are involved in a car accident, and Paul is driving the car, but he is uninsured. Ben swaps identities with him and the police get their identities confused.
SuperSoaper
12-07-2016
EastEnders spoilers: Ben Mitchell's loved ones are told he's dead in these devastating new pictures

Just look at the langage used: Ben Mitchell's relatives are TOLD that he's dead. Nowhere does it state that he really is!
wilpeep
12-07-2016
If it is a hospital mix-up and it's actually Paul and not Ben, that will be absolutely ridiculous. For a start, if they somehow swapped or mixed up their ID cards, wouldn't the photos on the cards be a bit of a giveaway, seeing as they look nothing alike? And wouldn't the hospital CHECK before announcing Ben's death to his family?

Part of me hopes it is Ben because I hate his character, but if it is a swap situation, it will be EE's stupidest storyline in years.
elle_hayden
12-07-2016
Maybe it is just to evil for him to actually do but could it be a hoax and Max getting his revenge? It seems too far but the news would absolutely destroy Phil and Ian, two of the people directly responsible for ruining him.

Yes it is out there and maybe too sick but I would prefer that than Max to come back and stare at people from the shadows looking 'menacing',
lollipop1995
12-07-2016
I too think it may be Jay He might be going somewhere to pick up a car and gets involved in some incident. It would be plausible that he'd have something of Ben's on him as they are very close and Ben may well ask him a favour as Jay used to work as a mechanic with Phil and Ben.

It seems very obvious it'll be Paul. But I don't want him to die either. Him and Ben are very sweet together and have grown to be very likeable...which is just typical of TPTB before killing off a character

However the actor described his exit story as 'exciting'. Would this be an exciting way for him to exit? Guess we'll have to see how it plays out. The biggest shocker for me would be Ben actually dying as I 100% believe, like most on here, that it will be mistaken identity. Surely if he does die it'll be most definitely be soaps best kept secret (with the exception of Kathy returning from the dead) ...surely they must know a load of people will think it's Paul as we know he's leaving.
lollipop1995
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by elle_hayden:
“Maybe it is just to evil for him to actually do but could it be a hoax and Max getting his revenge? It seems too far but the news would absolutely destroy Phil and Ian, two of the people directly responsible for ruining him.

Yes it is out there and maybe too sick but I would prefer that than Max to come back and stare at people from the shadows looking 'menacing',”

That would be interesting... I can't imagine Max doing such a twisted and evil thing though..however prison may have drastically changed him, who knows! When he was leaving in the taxi he certainly looked like a man who was hellbent on revenge!
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