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Old 12-07-2016, 11:28
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Michelle / Mark / Grant

only watched EE since 2001 - but know about Michelle & Mark & Grant (OK, know that Grant is the father of Michelle's son - and that's all - no idea of circumstances etc) but why keep Mark a secret? why have they done that?
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:07
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I *think* because Grant and Michelle hated each other............ (obviously not enough to stop them from sleeping together )

also possibly that MIchelle is Sharons best friend and Grant was Sharons husband.........

not 100% sure tho

I sure someone else will clarify
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:20
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I *think* because Grant and Michelle hated each other............ (obviously not enough to stop them from sleeping together )

also possibly that MIchelle is Sharons best friend and Grant was Sharons husband.........

not 100% sure tho

I sure someone else will clarify
thanks - tried Michelle F - Wikipedia - all it said was that Michelle & Grant had a gigantic row - but still ended up in bed - one off - she got pregnant - move to the US - and that's it - nothing about keeping the father of Mark a secret. Read she'd aborted another child a year or so earlier, so why did she not abort this one as well? weird


but of course, if Sharon was married to Grant at the time (I had no idea) - but he later married Tiffany - so everything could have come out in the open then?
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:23
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Basically as above, Michelle hated the Mitchells and it was a massive argument about Sharon in which Grant showed his remorse for his treatment of her, that led to Michelle comforting Grant and conceiving Mark on the floor of the bar (the exact same thing happened a decade prior except with Sharon's father rather than her husband). Therefore, due to her hatred of them (and knowing Grant would cause havoc and fight her for custody of Mark) as well as the fact she slept with Sharon's husband, Michelle chose to tell only Mark and later Martin. He then told Pauline shortly before she died.

This whole Michelle tells Peggy is a bit contrived because I dont see why Michelle would tell Peggy this news, knowing full well Grant would find out. Its not as if she liked Peggy enough to feel that she should know. It should have come from Martin, and he should have told Sharon- heck, when he went to USA earlier in the year he could have brought Mark back with him
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:31
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Basically as above, Michelle hated the Mitchells and it was a massive argument about Sharon in which Grant showed his remorse for his treatment of her, that led to Michelle comforting Grant and conceiving Mark on the floor of the bar (the exact same thing happened a decade prior except with Sharon's father rather than her husband). Therefore, due to her hatred of them (and knowing Grant would cause havoc and fight her for custody of Mark) as well as the fact she slept with Sharon's husband, Michelle chose to tell only Mark and later Martin. He then told Pauline shortly before she died.

This whole Michelle tells Peggy is a bit contrived because I dont see why Michelle would tell Peggy this news, knowing full well Grant would find out. Its not as if she liked Peggy enough to feel that she should know. It should have come from Martin, and he should have told Sharon- heck, when he went to USA earlier in the year he could have brought Mark back with him
from what I just read on Wiki, Mark was born mid 90s - so they have kept him as an insurance / back up for around 20 years - no wonder people want him to "return" - only, guess he'll run around with a heavy American accent ? and sort of reveal himself in no time, i.e. not hiding in the background waiting to reveal himself.
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:38
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from what I just read on Wiki, Mark was born mid 90s - so they have kept him as an insurance / back up for around 20 years - no wonder people want him to "return" - only, guess he'll run around with a heavy American accent ? and sort of reveal himself in no time, i.e. not hiding in the background waiting to reveal himself.
I don't want him to return. Some secrets are best kept!
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:43
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I don't want him to return. Some secrets are best kept!
a wicked way to keep some of the audience hooked: what if Mark Jr returns?
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:49
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a wicked way to keep some of the audience hooked: what if Mark Jr returns?
I am going to switch off till he is gone.

The problem is like the thread starter not all the viewers know the history and what happened 20 years ago.

The only ppl still on the square and known are sharon (who has shown no emotion on it and still going to see her best friend) and Ian who it doesn't really impact.

Viewers who haven't watched for 20 years have no investment in this secret, dont know grant and a random american is going to come in.

Yet all the drama should come from sharon confronting michelle and grant. Grant and michelle having a big ding dong and from mark jr getting angry at his mum.

We aren't going to get any of that.

To have any effect this needed to be done when grant, sharon and michelle were current characters.

Now we get sharon going to america and returning with him and then grant pitching up and leaving two weeks later. I assume this bit its not fact. Where is the drama in that.

The long term viewers are being shafted and treated appallingly and the newer viewers have to watch drivel between two unknown or relatively unknown characters (to the viewer) for ond of them at least not even sticking around and building a relationship.

It could also mean the end of Jay as there will be a new mitchell boy in the mix
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Old 12-07-2016, 18:27
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If Martin had been the one to deliver the news, Sharon could have had the argument with him for keeping Mark's identity a secret for so long instead of Michelle
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Old 12-07-2016, 18:33
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Don't know if this was mentioned but did Michelle also see how Grant treated his ex wife Tiffany and fought her for custody of Courtney or was that after she left? It would not encourage her to tell him he had a son for fear he would take him from her!
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Old 12-07-2016, 18:40
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Don't know if this was mentioned but did Michelle also see how Grant treated his ex wife Tiffany and fought her for custody of Courtney or was that after she left? It would not encourage her to tell him he had a son for fear he would take him from her!
No she had left by then, but I am sure she would know this stuff, Sharon has lived in America with her, visited quite alot and obviously Vicky lived on the square for a while. Plus Michelles cousin Ian is on the square and they keep in touch, Ian having visited her too.

again martin the brother of michelle has visited and kept in touch
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Old 13-07-2016, 06:11
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I hate that they're doing this storyline and how they're doing it. It's lost all impact after so many years. DTC has ruined the Watts and the Beales during his tenure with stupid backstories and sensationalist rubbish, now hes wrecked the Fowlers as a parting shot, it seems. Why would Michelle tell Peggy? She hated Grant and also knew that Peggy hated Sharon and would hardly keep the news to herself, dying or not. It makes no sense whatsoever.
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