ok, yep its another thread dedicated to bemoaning the current state of popular music...

give this vid a watch, see what you think of the points raised, its paul joseph watson, straight talker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP0wuwJBdMI

ps... coldplay fans will not be impressed!

I'm sorry couldnt listen to his annoying voice, so superior and twattish gave up after 2 mins.

maybe in the Billboard charts but dumb lyrics have been in the Uk charts for years, from 'Chirp Chirpy Chirp Cheep Cheap', 'Ooh Ah Just a Little Bit' , 'Booom boom boom I wanna say weoh!!' in fact 30 years of Europop is defined by naff lyrics. Who cares!!

There's always been controversy over what represents good popular music.

It was reported decades ago that during a conversation between Frank Sinatra and his then young wife Mia Farrow, that he was telling her how he found music popular with young people poor, as were the lyrics.
She was quiet for a moment, then started singing.

"Dooby dooby doo, dee dooby, dooby dooby doo, dee dooby."

Unbearable smugness.....

yep thats what it is was struggling for right word

you should have watched the vid, you wouldnt need to post that because your point was addressed

sorry too painful again some middle aged guy telling young people they are wrong or their music sucks not interested, its their generation leave them to it.

Some older people do get it right.
I remember my future father-in-law commenting on my girlfriend's sister's collection of Elvis records.

"He won't last you know."

How right he was!

Depends what you mean by 'last'

His voice reminded me of William Hague so I had to stop listening.

I don't the guy is middle-aged. He's a lot younger than me and he was summarizing a lot of the ideas around why pop music has become so bland and predictable. The idea that pop music is essentially created by a small number of producers effectively recycling their own materials makes a lot of sense.

The guy was being polemical, offering a relatively extreme perspective but I think there is a lot of truth in there regardless. We might want to think about what we can do to change things.

He has more grey hair than me and im 44. Its not up to us to change things, we need to leave this generation alone and let them deal with it. If they really dont like the music they have , it will eventually change. If they like it they will keep listening to it. Another genre or sound will come and react to what we have now if they want it so much.

Under 25s are not automatons that just listen to Drake,Justin Beiber and Adele you know.

pleased someone actually listened to the content of what was being said, which is what the threads about and not about paul jospeh watson who is 26.

he rails against the snowflake generation too - of which he is one!

What a waste of 12 minutes, I almost feel sorry for him.
He could have spent that 12 minutes listening to his favourite music.

Whilst Paul Joseph Watson is unbearably smug and condescending stating but, in general, he is stating the bleedin' obvious.

I once listened to Robert John Godfrey of The Enid, who was one of the founders of Barclay James Harvest in the 1960s, talking about this some 10 years ago. He said that up until the 1980s the music industry bosses were former musicians, the big band leaders of the 1930s and '40s, and so understood the "long game" where you develop a band over two or three albums knowing that will set the foundation for long term reward. In the 1980s the accountants moved in and turned it in to the music business, meaning short term profit was everything. Therefore the business produces music that provides an instant return on their investment, there is no longer a "long game".

But then isn't part of the problem, as we have both said in the past, that a lot of people today are now happy to be spoon-fed their music?

Paul Joseph Watson is a very, very nasty person. His views on.....well anything really are quite scary.

The guy isn't 44, doesn't have grey hair and you clearly haven't watched the video.

I have 4 kids under 25 and I know all about their musical tastes...one of them plays in a band as well, her fav artist being Fleetwood Mac.

I get your point.

Here's his views on #BlackLivesMatter and the Dallas shootings. https://youtu.be/ByE_CpXIjRA

Right wing reactionary commentary.

2 minutes ?. I lasted 3 seconds .. seriously ..

Everything I hate about popular music can be summed up by listening to Capital FM between about 7am and 9am. All so awful.

yep.... and we all know who popularised manufactured crap and made it somehow 'respectable' (sic) . great business move, crap for music though...

frank zappa in the clip summed it up rather well i thought. old men would give young musicians a go, theyd take a punt on them, "if they sell some copies great, if not *shrugs shoulders* " - and that is why imho we had so much variety in the past, people taking punts on young peoples ideas instead of being spoon fed.


i disagree, i like his straight talking no nonsense approach. its nice to see at least 1 snowflake with an opinion.


nevertheless....he has a strong point. blacklivesmatter IS a racist group who bemoan white police officers arresting/shooting what turns out to be known serial offenders from paedophiles to drug dealers who are often armed. meanwhile black on black violence far far outstrips anything the cops have done. but we arent supposed to know about that.

Again people getting offending when my comments are aimed at other people mgv it wasn't aimed at you. Although he does have greyer hair than me in the vid maybe my filters are off Hehe
Ok will give him another go but why is he so special , he is just like a 3rd rate Charlie Brooker who's opinion I actually respect why this guy?

why not?

hes making a name for himself, by exposing inaccuracies people are overlooking.

but this thread is about what he says about modern music, not about him. so its the content of the vid thats important and not the credibility or not of the guy telling it to us.

imho he is spot on, not only on this topic but others too...

heres what he says about beyonce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oahkGuG09SE

Cretinous.

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