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Jackson Is A Fool Saving Andy
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benbeez1
12-07-2016
why has Jackson automatically put himself as a leader just trying not to be nominated
Fairy Wings
12-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Chelsea barely survived his eviction. Andy came near or at the top in his. ”

Yep 😁 👍
jj2
13-07-2016
I agree with Carol McGiffin , Andy secretly hates them all
EnricoIV
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by jj2:
“Andy is Loyal to nobody only Andy . Jackson Alex and Jason should have listened to what the public was telling them about the real Andy in that poll”

Where is your evidence of this? What has he done in the house thus far that could be considered disloyal?
Firespire
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by jj2:
“Andy is Loyal to nobody only Andy . Jackson Alex and Jason should have listened to what the public was telling them about the real Andy in that poll”

You would never win Big Brother, you need to get out the people you think will win so you get top prize.

The impression given was the people polled don't like Andy and he won't win.

So it's best for other housemates to keep him in and let him get evicted by the public in future if they ever come face to face in a phone vote.

Trying to evict Andy who you think the public dislike is a complete waste of your vote.

Jackson is no fool.
Vicky8675309
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by KDDS07:
“Unfortunately, Hughie has blinders when it comes to Ryan. Maybe, at least, the survey result has given Hughie some food for thought.”

I hoped it would but afterwards, Hughie was hugging on Ryan and talking about how genuine Ryan was (Hughie glanced at the camera while saying it).
Lou17
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by froja:
“Andy will be loyal to Jackson. He will also be loyal to Jason and Alex. 100%.”

Andy will only show loyalty if it benefits himself
Lou17
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by Firespire:
“You would never win Big Brother, you need to get out the people you think will win so you get top prize.

The impression given was the people polled don't like Andy and he won't win.

So it's best for other housemates to keep him in and let him get evicted by the public in future if they ever come face to face in a phone vote.

Trying to evict Andy who you think the public dislike is a complete waste of your vote.

Jackson is no fool.”

Put jaynes more of a guarantee to be evicted and not make the final, Andy the game player may be viewed as a savable hm simply for creating drama.
some_body1
13-07-2016
Jackson is a fool..... full stop.
Tahitian
13-07-2016
Andy just wants us all to acknowledge what a superior human he is.
annie atom
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by jj2:
“Let me explain it this way , in this situation Jackson is Boris Johnson and Andy is Michael Gove.
Like Boris , Jackson thinks he has an Ally but Andy like Gove will stab him in the back when he doesnt need him anymore”

Oh I agree. In the meantime though,he has an ally. The minute Andy has no longer use for Jackson,he's gone. They're all the same,in it for themselves. Which is fair enough. What I should have written was that Jackson thinks that Andy is an ally now. I like Andy,not so keen on Jackson though. Thanks for the explanation though I think it will be interesting to watch how all this plays out. It's all speculation at the moment.
Vicky8675309
13-07-2016
Jackson has always played a good social game. Since Georgina has left he is now also showing a good strategic game. He has a loyal ally in Andy and Andy will have Jackson's back (and Alex's & Jason's backs). I'm impressed with Jackson's game playing and that is helping me like him more and to overlook his OTT dramatics (georgina's eviction meltdown and the button pressing melodrama).

He is back on my like list due to his game playing (I like game players and he isn't malicious). I never minded his switch in speech styles and it was just his association with Georgina and his dramatics that turned me off to him....however he is redeeming himself in my eyes with his good game play and his having Andy's back (yes, it benefits both of them without them having to have an explicit verbal pact which is the downfall of Laura & Evelyn---stupid to verbalize it with such obvious wording)
Pollyusa
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Jackson has always played a good social game. Since Georgina has left he is now also showing a good strategic game. He has a loyal ally in Andy and Andy will have Jackson's back (and Alex's & Jason's backs). I'm impressed with Jackson's game playing and that is helping me like him more and to overlook his OTT dramatics (georgina's eviction meltdown and the button pressing melodrama).

He is back on my like list due to his game playing (I like game players and he isn't malicious). I never minded his switch in speech styles and it was just his association with Georgina and his dramatics that turned me off to him....however he is redeeming himself in my eyes with his good game play and his having Andy's back (yes, it benefits both of them without them having to have an explicit verbal pact which is the downfall of Laura & Evelyn---stupid to verbalize it with such obvious wording)”

Every word of this is sound. However, I don't think I can ever overlook that button pushing scene
Lou17
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Jackson has always played a good social game. Since Georgina has left he is now also showing a good strategic game. He has a loyal ally in Andy and Andy will have Jackson's back (and Alex's & Jason's backs). I'm impressed with Jackson's game playing and that is helping me like him more and to overlook his OTT dramatics (georgina's eviction meltdown and the button pressing melodrama).

He is back on my like list due to his game playing (I like game players and he isn't malicious). I never minded his switch in speech styles and it was just his association with Georgina and his dramatics that turned me off to him....however he is redeeming himself in my eyes with his good game play and his having Andy's back (yes, it benefits both of them without them having to have an explicit verbal pact which is the downfall of Laura & Evelyn---stupid to verbalize it with such obvious wording)”

The men you've named all whinge that their is a clique with the girls but if anything the men are using each other as a unit to nom the girls.....so hypocritical.
rhizo_mania
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by benbeez1:
“why has Jackson automatically put himself as a leader just trying not to be nominated”


Jackson has made himself chairman for exactly that reason, he's a sly one.
Lushness
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by benbeez1:
“why has Jackson automatically put himself as a leader just trying not to be nominated”

Yep and he's succeeding, it's the others that are dumb enough not to see it. I'll fully respect anyone that challenges Jackson on this.

Originally Posted by some_body1:
“Jackson is a fool..... full stop.”

He really isn't.
shelleyj89
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by benbeez1:
“why has Jackson automatically put himself as a leader just trying not to be nominated”

This close to the end, the natural leaders start to show. Jackson seems to be a natural leader. He can be articulate when he's not trying to be a gangster, and he's not afraid to make suggestions that might upset others. I don't see anyone else trying to organise everyone in all these situations this week so why not Jackson when he's had the balls to step up to the plate and when the other housemates don't have an issue with it?

Isn't the point of Big Brother to avoid being nominated so you don't face eviction? How dare he try and avoid being nominated?!
Esensuelle
13-07-2016
Re: Jackson, don't hate the player, hate the game.
Jackyc
13-07-2016
Jackson has shown a lot of sense in the past couple of days, definitely better without Georgina in tow, nothing wrong with Andy I think he will win
yogacats
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by Lou17:
“Andy will only show loyalty if it benefits himself”

As anyone in there would ...............
jj2
13-07-2016
Its also foolish of Jackson to put himself out there as Chairman of every hm meeting , it puts a target on his back as the others may start seeing him as a fav to win . if he was clever he would have talked someone like Andy into the job and used him as his puppet , Jackson may have shown his hand to early
starry
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by yogacats:
“As anyone in there would ...............”

Quite. Nobody in there is likely to hand over the prize money to someone else.

When will the public move on from wanting the HMs to pretend they aren't playing a game. It's really silly.
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