He's just been asked the question that anyone who has ever been in orbit of the Strictly judging table is going to be asked over the next 12 months or so. It'll be Darren Bennet next ... 
Len Goodman leaving Strictly
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Originally Posted by aggs:
“He's just been asked the question that anyone who has ever been in orbit of the Strictly judging table is going to be asked over the next 12 months or so. It'll be Darren Bennet next ...”
“He's just been asked the question that anyone who has ever been in orbit of the Strictly judging table is going to be asked over the next 12 months or so. It'll be Darren Bennet next ...
”
I can barely wait to hear Jimbo Jordan's opinion.
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Len only wants one person to replace him and it's Anton. He must have added Karen to the list, knowing just giving Anton would really get him some bad press. That guy is shameless, I knew he would be pushing for Anton, behind the scenes, but to do it openly, shows his arrogance. Can't wait for 2017 series, I hope they bring anyone but Anton and scrap the head Judge title.”
“Len only wants one person to replace him and it's Anton. He must have added Karen to the list, knowing just giving Anton would really get him some bad press. That guy is shameless, I knew he would be pushing for Anton, behind the scenes, but to do it openly, shows his arrogance. Can't wait for 2017 series, I hope they bring anyone but Anton and scrap the head Judge title.”
There are dozens of names Len could have used, but none of them would mean anything to those viewers who are not also part of the dance world, so would have been meaningless, and would have got the "Who on earth ..............." response. as for being shameless, he knows full well that nothing he says will make the slightest bit of difference - the beeb will make the decision, as it has done so far bringing totally unsuitable judges to replace Arlene.
As for scrapping Head judge - that is unlikely to happen. On most judging panels there is always one person who is classed as above the others - Simon Cowell on X-factors Got Talent, for example.
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“I can barely wait to hear Jimbo Jordan's opinion.”
“I can barely wait to hear Jimbo Jordan's opinion.”
Well, here's one person he thinks won't replace Len. Because he's too gobby, apparently.
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...es-jordan.html
Who's going to be first to say "pot, kettle, black"?
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Well, here's one person he thinks won't replace Len. Because he's too gobby, apparently.
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...es-jordan.html
Who's going to be first to say "pot, kettle, black"?”
“Well, here's one person he thinks won't replace Len. Because he's too gobby, apparently.
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv...es-jordan.html
Who's going to be first to say "pot, kettle, black"?
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Lol, and I see he's come out in favour of Du Beke. That must be the kiss of death to poor Anton's chances.
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Vincent Simone has tossed his hat vaguely in the direction of the ring, but will the BBC be there to catch it?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...-come-dancing/”
“Vincent Simone has tossed his hat vaguely in the direction of the ring, but will the BBC be there to catch it?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...-come-dancing/”
I doubt this to be correct the rag called the Sun wouldn't know the truth if it hit then full on the face.
Originally Posted by Frank Mag:
“I doubt this to be correct the rag called the Sun wouldn't know the truth if it hit then full on the face.”
“I doubt this to be correct the rag called the Sun wouldn't know the truth if it hit then full on the face.”
In the past it has been pretty much spot-on with some of the rumoured celebs though.
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“Lol, and I see he's come out in favour of Du Beke. That must be the kiss of death to poor Anton's chances.”
“Lol, and I see he's come out in favour of Du Beke. That must be the kiss of death to poor Anton's chances.”
I once saw Anton on an ITT making intelligent comments. It was a long time ago, though. Still, it shows that when he tries, he can be quite sensible.
If he can rein in his irritating attempts at comedy, he'd make a good replacement for Len, IMHO of course.
Originally Posted by VintageWhine:
“I once saw Anton on an ITT making intelligent comments. It was a long time ago, though. Still, it shows that when he tries, he can be quite sensible.
If he can rein in his irritating attempts at comedy, he'd make a good replacement for Len, IMHO of course.”
“I once saw Anton on an ITT making intelligent comments. It was a long time ago, though. Still, it shows that when he tries, he can be quite sensible.
If he can rein in his irritating attempts at comedy, he'd make a good replacement for Len, IMHO of course.”
There is no doubt that when it comes to ballroom Anton knows what he is talking about, and can thus make intelligent comments - when he tries!
It's also true that when he meets his fans he can be charm itself. However, in place of Len? No, thank you. It would only be a matter of time before the real Anton took over, and it would rapidly become the "Anton" show.
Having said that, I think I'd rather see him judge than watch him continue to murder the Latin dances.
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“There is no doubt that when it comes to ballroom Anton knows what he is talking about, and can thus make intelligent comments - when he tries!
It's also true that when he meets his fans he can be charm itself. However, in place of Len? No, thank you. It would only be a matter of time before the real Anton took over, and it would rapidly become the "Anton" show.
Having said that, I think I'd rather see him judge than watch him continue to murder the Latin dances.”
“There is no doubt that when it comes to ballroom Anton knows what he is talking about, and can thus make intelligent comments - when he tries!
It's also true that when he meets his fans he can be charm itself. However, in place of Len? No, thank you. It would only be a matter of time before the real Anton took over, and it would rapidly become the "Anton" show.
Having said that, I think I'd rather see him judge than watch him continue to murder the Latin dances.”
Yes. Knowing what is required is different to executing it. I can name some coaches and adjudicators who were not great dancers in their day. So there is no technical reason why Anton could not be a judge. That said, I agree with you that he is not the right personality for the show. Also, his critique of any Latin dances, even if fair and reasoned, may not be so well received by pros or public who would remember Anton's previous performances and choreography. So there is a perceived credibility issue.
Apparently the BBC want Helen Richley off DWTS Australia to replace Len:
http://www.ok.co.uk/tv/strictly-come...he-stars-judge
http://www.ok.co.uk/tv/strictly-come...he-stars-judge
Originally Posted by Sarah_Jones5:
“Apparently the BBC want Helen Richley off DWTS Australia to replace Len:
http://www.ok.co.uk/tv/strictly-come...he-stars-judge”
“Apparently the BBC want Helen Richley off DWTS Australia to replace Len:
http://www.ok.co.uk/tv/strictly-come...he-stars-judge”
Helen Richey would also be a very good judge, very "old school" but very experienced both as a former dancer, then coach and judge. She was a very dear friend to a Ballroom Pro that I knew, who sadly died a while ago. I used to love hearing the stories of when they were both competitive dancers at the top of their game.
I like the idea of Helen Richey replacing Len, I'd be keen on retaining an 'old school' judge on the panel.
I don't know who Helen Richey is, but yes, it would be good to replace Len with a judge who has proper Ballroom/Latin credentials.
I was surprised when it described this lady as having "a similar calm temperament to Len" though!
I hope not, if she joins the show.
I would say Craig, though cutting, is calmer - Len is moody, inconsistent, and at times just plain nasty. And not in a calm way.
I was surprised when it described this lady as having "a similar calm temperament to Len" though!
I hope not, if she joins the show.I would say Craig, though cutting, is calmer - Len is moody, inconsistent, and at times just plain nasty. And not in a calm way.
I'm in favour of Helen Richey. She's very experienced in all things ballroom and Latin, having been an excellent dancer, coach and judge. And being from Oz I don't think she will mind speaking her mind!!!!
Isn't Helen unfortunately about the same age as Len? Is she going to commit to a number of seasons working in the UK?
YAAS to Queen Helen Richey. She and Todd McKenney (their Craig) are comedy GOLD on DWTS AU plus she is a pretty harsh marker when she wants to. She will like Craig use ALL TEN paddles, she will give 1s 2s and 3s without a second thaught. She is constructive, will give technical pointers. Plus she can be FILTHY if she wants to! So I would have
Craig, Helen, Darcey, Bruno
Or
Craig, Darcey, Karen, Bruno
Oh if we get her or Karen Hardy I will be jumping for joy!
Craig, Helen, Darcey, Bruno
Or
Craig, Darcey, Karen, Bruno
Oh if we get her or Karen Hardy I will be jumping for joy!
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“Lol, and I see he's come out in favour of Du Beke. That must be the kiss of death to poor Anton's chances.”
“Lol, and I see he's come out in favour of Du Beke. That must be the kiss of death to poor Anton's chances.”
Completely off topic here, please forgive me
You don't happen to have a Youtube channel do you? I've been watching it for ages and enjoy your reviews immensely
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Not only will JJ have likely burned his bridges as far as the BBC is concerned, the producers would probably want to go with someone who is either still part of the Strictly family, or a respected pro from outside.”
“Not only will JJ have likely burned his bridges as far as the BBC is concerned, the producers would probably want to go with someone who is either still part of the Strictly family, or a respected pro from outside.”
I think Nicole Scherzinger would be a brilliant choice if it could be arranged. It's about time we had a head judge who is a former competition champion instead of a jumped- up elementary dance school teacher no better qualified than hundreds of others.
Nicole is gaining in confidence and personality year by year and I am sure she would go down well with the public. We are about to have a woman president of the USA so why not a head judge here?
Originally Posted by JohnCurry:
“I think Nicole Scherzinger would be a brilliant choice if it could be arranged. It's about time we had a head judge who is a former competition champion instead of a jumped- up elementary dance school teacher no better qualified than hundreds of others.
Nicole is gaining in confidence and personality year by year and I am sure she would go down well with the public. We are about to have a woman president of the USA so why not a head judge here?”
“I think Nicole Scherzinger would be a brilliant choice if it could be arranged. It's about time we had a head judge who is a former competition champion instead of a jumped- up elementary dance school teacher no better qualified than hundreds of others.
Nicole is gaining in confidence and personality year by year and I am sure she would go down well with the public. We are about to have a woman president of the USA so why not a head judge here?”
Nicole is not a former competition winner. She won DWTS as a celeb. Len Goodman won various competitions, including the British Championships at Blackpool and was placed high in others (e.g second in the international Professional to Michael Stylianos and Lorna Lee).
I'm not a great supporter of Len (lots of people I would rather see as a judge), but your post is factually incorrect, unless I've missed something.
Originally Posted by JohnCurry:
“I think Nicole Scherzinger would be a brilliant choice if it could be arranged. It's about time we had a head judge who is a former competition champion instead of a jumped- up elementary dance school teacher no better qualified than hundreds of others.
Nicole is gaining in confidence and personality year by year and I am sure she would go down well with the public. We are about to have a woman president of the USA so why not a head judge here?”
“I think Nicole Scherzinger would be a brilliant choice if it could be arranged. It's about time we had a head judge who is a former competition champion instead of a jumped- up elementary dance school teacher no better qualified than hundreds of others.
Nicole is gaining in confidence and personality year by year and I am sure she would go down well with the public. We are about to have a woman president of the USA so why not a head judge here?”
It will be Alesha all over again
Originally Posted by JohnCurry:
“I think Nicole Scherzinger would be a brilliant choice if it could be arranged. It's about time we had a head judge who is a former competition champion instead of a jumped- up elementary dance school teacher no better qualified than hundreds of others.”
“I think Nicole Scherzinger would be a brilliant choice if it could be arranged. It's about time we had a head judge who is a former competition champion instead of a jumped- up elementary dance school teacher no better qualified than hundreds of others.”
If you are referring to Len Goodman, perhaps you need to educate yourself:
Quote:
“Having retired after a successful competitive dancing career, which included winning Dual of the Giants, British Rising Stars, The British Exhibition Championships (four times) and the World Exhibition Championships in the early 1970’s, it was a natural progression for him to open his own dance school in Kent
As an Examiner for the National Association of Teachers of Dance, a Fellow of the Imperial Society of Teachers of Dance, Adjudicator for the World Dance Council, British Dance Council, Ballroom Dancers’ Federation and a founder member of the International Dance Sport Judges and Trainers Association, what Len doesn’t know about dance isn’t worth knowing.
Len has received various awards in the UK, including a Life Achievement Award for his work in dance and two Carl Allen Awards (The equivalent Oscars of the dance world).
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He has produced many teaching DVD’s over the years for the dance teaching industry as well as an instructional DVD for the general public “Dance With Len Goodman”.”
“Having retired after a successful competitive dancing career, which included winning Dual of the Giants, British Rising Stars, The British Exhibition Championships (four times) and the World Exhibition Championships in the early 1970’s, it was a natural progression for him to open his own dance school in Kent
As an Examiner for the National Association of Teachers of Dance, a Fellow of the Imperial Society of Teachers of Dance, Adjudicator for the World Dance Council, British Dance Council, Ballroom Dancers’ Federation and a founder member of the International Dance Sport Judges and Trainers Association, what Len doesn’t know about dance isn’t worth knowing.
Len has received various awards in the UK, including a Life Achievement Award for his work in dance and two Carl Allen Awards (The equivalent Oscars of the dance world).
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He has produced many teaching DVD’s over the years for the dance teaching industry as well as an instructional DVD for the general public “Dance With Len Goodman”.”
http://goodmandance.co.uk/len-goodman-2/
The less said about your claims regarding Nicole Scherzinger the better.
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“Nicole is not a former competition winner. She won DWTS as a celeb. Len Goodman won various competitions, includinf the British Championships at Blackpool.
I'm not a great supported of Len, but your post is factually incorrect, unless I've missed something.”
“Nicole is not a former competition winner. She won DWTS as a celeb. Len Goodman won various competitions, includinf the British Championships at Blackpool.
I'm not a great supported of Len, but your post is factually incorrect, unless I've missed something.”
Len has always been very guarded about what he won and I have yet to see the details of exactly what he did win. I am old enough to remember all the British ballroom champions back to Sonny Binick and Sally Brock in the late 1950s, and I had never heard of Led Goodman until he appeared on this show.
There are certainly no clips of Len on YouTube winning whatever he did win so we will have to take his word for it that he did win something. However it certainly wasn't the British ballroom championship as all those winners are well documented.
Yes Nicole was one of the celebrities on DWTS but she showed extraordinary ability and looked like an equal partner with her pro.
I have checked my copy of the 62nd International Championships programme, and he and Cherry are in there as a runner up to the legendary Michael Stylianos and Lorna Lee, in 1970 who dominated at that time. So I can assure you, he is not making it all up.
I haven't researched the British championship results and so can't vouch for that.
I haven't researched the British championship results and so can't vouch for that.
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