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21 | 3.74% |
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23 | 4.09% |
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88 | 15.66% |
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147 | 26.16% |
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163 | 29.00% |
| Excellent |
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120 | 21.35% |
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#276 |
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11 Pages! Right this episode was OK but still had its kids tv moments, the whole thing looked like a set from a kids show for a start. I wasn't particularly grabbed by any aspect of it, except for its references to media disinformation which i thought was interesting coupled with the WMD crack a couple of weeks back. Also, the satire on immigration, mention it enough and be selective and people will get scared.
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Originally Posted by MIsguidedFool
Just thinking about the whoisdoctorwho site.
No one seems to have mentioned this yet... Adam obviously visited the site when he was 14 years old and won the competition. This means that he has already had contact with Mickey. Mickey knows about the TARDIS. Does this mean that Adam already has knowledge of the TARDIS before he goes to work for Van Statten? He has certainly heard of The Doctor and Rose before, if he has been to the website! I don't think we have heard the last of Adam. I think he will be back at Geocomtex telling them everything he knows. I have this gut feeling that Geocomtex are going to figure in this more as well. Regards MF |
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Originally Posted by Szlater
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Domain Name: WHOISDOCTORWHO.COM Registrar: TUCOWS INC. Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com Name Server: NS1.THDO.BBC.CO.UK Name Server: NS1.THNY.BBC.CO.UK Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK Updated Date: 23-nov-2004 Creation Date: 23-nov-2004 Expiration Date: 23-nov-2005 Domain name: whoisdrwho.com Registrant Contact: Bad Wolf (badwolf@bad-wolf.org.uk) +672.10001 Fax: Time Space, Other AQ Administrative Contact: Bad Wolf (badwolf@bad-wolf.org.uk) +672.10001 Fax: Time Space, Other AQ Technical Contact: Bad Wolf (badwolf@bad-wolf.org.uk) +672.10001 Fax: Time Space, Other AQ |
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Originally Posted by DariiusDax
When The Doctor and Rose brought Adam home at the end, I'm presuming it was the year 2012 - which was the year Adam was working for VanStatten. Now, admittedly it's only 7 years in the future for us, but I got the impression the art dept. had forgotten as I saw no evidence of anything even vaguely 2012-ish, and that answerphone looked very 2005
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#280 |
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I was thinking how 90's that phone looked myself!
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Ummmm...no. The site you;ve done a search on is www.whoisdoctorwho.com , the BAd Wolf discussion forum is www.whoisdrwho.com the WHOIS info for that site is as follows:
Domain name: whoisdrwho.com Registrant Contact: Bad Wolf (badwolf@bad-wolf.org.uk) +672.10001 <snip> Creation date: 19 Apr 2005 14:58:54 Expiration date: 19 Apr 2006 14:58:54 |
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#282 |
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I mentioned this- didn't you read that far back?
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BTW, are the overnights in yet? I want to see if Celebrity Wresting has been trounced again. Nigel Pickard has said if ratings don't pick up, next weeks will be the last.
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ratings
..usually the "overnights" arrive at 10am and those with an account (it costs) post shortly after - bless 'em.
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Originally Posted by cuilean
It's still interesting that on the members list, the administrator and first poster were registered on the site back in December... long before the series was shown and anyone had any clue about the Bad Wolf references
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#286 |
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Originally Posted by Szlater
Geeks
![]() It's also only got 85 members.. It's using BBC nameservers, so unless they're providing that service to outside companies, it's a BBC site. http://www.whoisdoctorwho.co.uk/disclaimer.shtml |
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#287 |
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Ooops! Someone else confusing the official (Micky's) "whoisdoctorwho" site with the unofficial "whoisdrwho" site!
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Not exact figs: Dr Who 7.54 million
CW : nowhere near this. Goodbye CW! |
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I watched the repeat on BBC Three. What a snooze-a-thon that was! Utterly, utterly tedious. It never got going, just flatlined the whole way through. The Slitheen episodes were awful, but at least they were interesting in a car crash type of way. For that reason, I rate The Editor as the worst episode so far (surely it can't sink any lower... can it?
)3 out 10. Celebrity Wrestling is better than this. PS: I'm astonished anyone voted this rubbish as "Excellent". |
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Originally Posted by DryHumper
I gave it "good", I think it's probably about the fourth best, probably equal with "Rose", but behind "Dalek" the 3rd one and the 2nd one. I notice people seem to be getting alot more critical than they were with "Rose", even though I don't think it was much different, quality wise, as I've mentioned before, I think that's because the "honeymoon period" is wearing off.
Sure there was a bit of sillyness, but I'm starting to accept there's always going to be a bit in every Dr W episode (even "Dalek" had some, with the Dalek trying the keypad for millions of combinations without the keypad wearing out or burning out (and hows that make it a genius?) and the "downloading of the internet"). I thought the doctor wandering up to level 500 without much caution was a bit daft, plus noone immediately to meet them, same with the girl, the way she just wandered around level 500. The answerphone bit was also daft, as well as the mobile phone calls back to present day - that was ok for a bit of a joke, but it's wore thin. The "key to the tardis" as well, surely he isn't going to protect the Tardis with a key anyone can use? The ending was a bit unsatisfying, "give me full access" or whatever, then she can totally takeover. Errrr, ok. Perhaps it could have been better fleshed out if the level 500 access point had been described as a special access point that gave full control. Ok, perhaps she could do that because of what the doctor did in that cupboard, but it was a bit unsatisfying Plus sides I thought were Simon Pegg, who was great. I'm surprised that the corrie guy has been slagged so much, I think he's a pretty good actor and gave a good performance. I liked the social commentary, that the human race is quite often sheep who only think what the media tells them to think. I thought the alien was ok, but might have been better if it had been some huge alien brain in a huge tank, instead, being fed all the information. Did it need to have teeth? Did it need to snarl alot? That didn't seem to match up with it's supposed intelligence. Like most people are saying, some good ideas, that could have been better thought out. But not all bad either. Dalek and The Unquiet Dead are the only episodes that I think are pretty good all round, and I found to be the most rewarding of the series. 1) Dalek - Excellent 2) The Unquiet Dead - Very good 3)The End of the World - Quite Good 4) Rose - Average to Good 5) The Long Game - Dull to Average 6) Aliens of London - Poor (Farcical Embarrassment) 7) World War 111 - Poor (Farcical Embarrassment) There's bits in all episodes that are good though, but some of them as complete episodes or stories are just not that good. I don't agree that the series is going from strength to strength. For me it's patchy at best. Although there's something to take from all episodes for most people, and it's doing well in the ratings, I don't think it's going from strength to strength as far as quality goes. Popularity yes possibly, but not quality. Dalek, The Unquiet Dead, and maybe also The End of the World, are good enough to keep me watching, and are inspiring enough for me to be optimistic about the future of the show. These 3 shows tell me that this show is capable of a lot more, and that they really do have some talent on board there. But 2 or 3 good shows out of 7 looks quite bad on paper. But the show does enough to keep people watching, and I'm sure that the remainder of the series is going to improve. I am very optimistic about series 2, and I think there will be more hits than misses there for me. As mentioned by another poster, ironically it's the stories penned by Russell T Davies that are the ones that seem to be the weakest. There seems to be a lot of worship of Russell T Davies as a writer, but I try to keep my feet on the ground. Yes, he's the guy who was responsible for pulling all this together and making it all happen, but his actual writing in individual episodes makes me think that they aren't his best work. Maybe it's the hype around him that makes people assume that he's the best writer ever, but I think Mark Gatiss and Rob Shearman have outclassed him with their two episodes. I think they have possibly been generally ignored for how much better they were, while RTD is the recipient of all the praise. The story arc is good, but some of the writing from RTD has been very disappointing for me. It's like he's writing episodes of a second rate children's soap at times. And I'm not too sure about RTD's talent at actuallly writing science fiction. Most, if not all, of his ideas are derived from other sci-fi, or ideas ripped from other sci-fi movies. There are disappointments for me, but also positives that outweigh the negatives. There is a lot I can credit RTD for, but it wouldn't be for his actual writing of individual stories, it would be more about his vision, how he wants it to look visually, and work into some of the characterisations. Sometimes this series works for me, and at other times it doesn't work at all. Very patchy, but when it's good it's excellent, and shows a lot of optimism and promise for the future. Better stories would make things a lot better I think. And for some reason 45 minute stories aren't working too well, I don't know why, but for some reason they aren't in general. |
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You know what? I wish I had voted to make this weeks episode very good or excellent instead of just good.
The reason for this is, after reading many of the posts here, I believe this weeks episode may be the most important one for setting up the future story lines. It might appear to have flaws and be uninteresting, but if we see what is to come, we migth realise that many of the 'problems' were deliberate and that there is so much more to watch out for in this episode than we might think. I guess only time will tell, but I believe the peoples view of this episode may change dramatically if what I think turns out to be true. If thias is the biggest episode for setting up the rest of this series and maybe even some of the next so far, then this episode may become one of the more popular. |
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There have been a few people talking about the fuure prospects of Adam Mitchell appearing again. He may appear played by Bruno Langley again, or by someone else. Som also suggest that he has already appeared before, as the boy who graffitied the TARDIS. If this boy wasn't Adam, he may still have appeared already, as the son of Clive who Rose met off the internet in Rose.
Evidence for this: Clive had a dark haired son who's name we never found out We never found out Clive's surname The son would be about Adams age in 2012 Both their houses look very similar from the outside Both Adam's mother and Clive's wife have a smiliar type of voice Evidence against this: I think Adam talked to 'Mum and Dad' on the phone (Mum could have remarried and Adam started to call his step-dad, Dad, which is quite common). The hallways of the two houses looked different: one had a staircase, the other no staircase (His Mum could have remarried someone who lives in a similar house (on the outside) to where she lived with Clive and she and Adam could have moved in there). The Mums were played by different actors and looked a quite diferent (people age....7 years can make quite a difference to one appearance). The accents may or may not be wrong between the differnet times we have 'seen' Adam and his Mum (I can't remember what they all sounded like)...but acccents can change over time... |
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I enjoyed this weeks episode immensly, and voted excellent for the second time (Dalek was he first). I for one liked the way Max was done. He certainly beat the Slitheens into a cocked hat. He looked scary, and didn't in my (fairly critical) view, look obviously GCIed.
I didn't love the script, but at least it was free of the silly moments in previous episodes (ie burping bins or head zips). There wasn't much character building or pathos, but it was engaging. And when Adam was considering having the chip installed, who else felt like screaming "Don't do it"? Regarding the music, it is not too loud or intrusive on my ageing Dolby Surround Telly. And it is heaps better that the Radiophic Workshop incidental music on the old series. It seems to me that the series has now settled into it's stride and I'm looking forward to future episodes. |
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Originally Posted by hello-snufkin
I have a question, if the Tardis can travel though time and space, why have all the episodes been based around Earth?
When will the Doctor stop traveling backwards and forwards through time and start going to alien planets.
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I'm just speculating - the Doctor said that the time line had been disrupted and put back by 90 years. Surely that could only happen through meddling from outside of the current time stream. In other words are there malevolent forces, capable of time travel, interfering with Earth history (or even the history of the Galaxy)? If so, would it be the Jagrafess (is that the species name or the title for Max??), or is it some other entity/ies that arranged for the Jagrafess to be installed? And could time meddling have sparked off the events in the other episodes so far? After all, it would explain why the doctor knows about the time he visits (Harriet Jones PM), but is utterly clueless about alien activities.
I like the Face of Boe/Bank of England idea too, especially as the Face is known to a) exist for a very long time and b) be extremely wealthy (enough to organise the party in episode 2). Someone mentioned the Daleks as possibly having time travel, but weren't sure. As they were main participants of the Time War, I guess that makes it pretty certain that they do possess it. |
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Just noticed your 'services'. haha!
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Originally Posted by Evil Eye
You know what? I wish I had voted to make this weeks episode very good or excellent instead of just good... I believe this weeks episode may be the most important one for setting up the future story lines... I believe the peoples view of this episode may change dramatically if what I think turns out to be true... this episode may become one of the more popular.
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Originally Posted by Hot Pepper
I'm just speculating - the Doctor said that the time line had been disrupted and put back by 90 years. Surely that could only happen through meddling from outside of the current time stream. In other words are there malevolent forces, capable of time travel, interfering with Earth history (or even the history of the Galaxy)? If so, would it be the Jagrafess (is that the species name or the title for Max??), or is it some other entity/ies that arranged for the Jagrafess to be installed? And could time meddling have sparked off the events in the other episodes so far? After all, it would explain why the doctor knows about the time he visits (Harriet Jones PM), but is utterly clueless about alien activities.
I like the Face of Boe/Bank of England idea too, especially as the Face is known to a) exist for a very long time and b) be extremely wealthy (enough to organise the party in episode 2). Someone mentioned the Daleks as possibly having time travel, but weren't sure. As they were main participants of the Time War, I guess that makes it pretty certain that they do possess it. Only I don't think that knows exactly where it is all leading yet and he isn't saying anything to Rose so that he doesn't scare her into wanting to go back home....as doing so might mean she cannot play her importantpart in the events...meaning everyone loses. |
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Originally Posted by gymboy
Quite possibly, but we can only vote on the episode as it stands, and last night's was not particularly great. I agree with a lot of what has been said in this thread - particularly the lack of imagination in creating a world that is supposed to be 200,000 years in the future and the dreadful 1970s-style monster. The only thing that kept the episode afloat in my opinion is the excellent chemistry between the Doctor and Rose: the scripting, timing and delivery of the pre-credit lines in particular ("He's your boyfriend." "Not any more.") were utterly perfect. They are so obviously falling for each other, even if neither of them will admit it even to themselves - and that opens the way to some fantastic scripting possibilities when the Doctor regenerates. How will Rose react? I can imagine some very moving and painful scenes.
I think the chances of a relationship will be greater as the 'age gap' in the appearance of the two will be own to about 12 years, as opposed to the 22-25 years between them now. This will be a great stumbling block they will have overcome as they now feel it will be more acceptable for the people around them to see then together...certainly from the point of view of Rose anyway. |
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