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View Poll Results: What did you think to the show?
Very poor 21 3.74%
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Old 07-05-2005, 19:51
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Interesting idea but poorly executed. It lacked the pace and direction again that other episodes had. Perhaps after the wonderful Dalek episode we were expecting even greater things. Had to vote only fair this week.
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Old 07-05-2005, 19:52
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i liked it as always and cant wait for next weeks!
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Old 07-05-2005, 19:53
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Ok, so practically all of the comments so far have been negative, yet 13 people have voted excellent.

Anyone want to try and defend their rating?
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Old 07-05-2005, 19:53
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Hmmm..I'm in two minds....good build up but bit of a rushed conclusion. Simon Pegg played his part well, I'm hoping he somehow survived, but I doubt it. I just had a feeling that Adam would only be involved for himself. After all, he'd been working for a power hungry meglomaniac like Henry Van Statten for a few years, something was bound to rub off.

Liked the mum clicking her fingers at the end, funny.

Next week's trailer looked great, Rose trying to save her father, running past HERSELF after what seemed to be a failed rescue attempt, saving her father from dying when he was supposed to and therefore altering the timeline. Kinda reminded me of "Final Destination", with all those "death" winged creatures for some reason.
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Old 07-05-2005, 19:56
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I thought that was really good!
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:00
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I haven't watched the rest of the series but I watched this one because a housemate asked me to record it for him.

The special effects looked uncannily like the graphics in Doom 3.
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:00
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enjoyed this episode, next weeks looks good
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:06
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Originally Posted by thepuffin
What was with that monster???

I've seen more convincing monsters in Hammer Horror films.

Are we really to believe that this one creature - that's unable to move(!) - has managed to enslave 1 million planets worth of humans?

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Well Rupert Murdock has done it.

Ok enough with the social commentary.
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:10
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Originally Posted by thepuffin
Ok, so practically all of the comments so far have been negative, yet 13 people have voted excellent.

Anyone want to try and defend their rating?
i voted excellant!
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:11
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Originally Posted by phoenix1971
Hmmm..I'm in two minds....good build up but bit of a rushed conclusion. Simon Pegg played his part well, I'm hoping he somehow survived, but I doubt it.
Agreed! Think it would have been better if he were the principal villain of this story rather than that rather poor excuse of a monster. I felt Simon was just starting to get his teeth into the role of The Editor and it was over. You never know he might not be dead.

Interesting though that money was the theme of the story again. Another FM, 'Alrightmate' picked up on this a while ago as being one of the central themes that would be continued throughout this season and here we are again. I wonder if it is that knowledge, power, in whatever shape or form it takes, including money, corrupts all and that will be explored further in future stories.

O dear! Did anyone just watch DW Confidential? RTD has just said that whoever installed the Jagrafess will be explored in a future episode. Groan!
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:11
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Originally Posted by Black Guardian
Interesting idea but poorly executed. It lacked the pace and direction again that other episodes had. Perhaps after the wonderful Dalek episode we were expecting even greater things. Had to vote only fair this week.
I agree.

The ideas were good, but there wasn't much of a story there. Very bog standard and average.

I voted "fair" for the first time.

For what Doctor Who is supposed to be, and the imapct it's supposed to make, this was poor.
It's an episode such as this that isn't going to convince American TV networks to buy it.

I thought the set design was ugly, messy and too cluttered too.
The look of it was so jarring that I feel slightly queasy and have a slight headache.
And that isn't a joke, it has genuinely given me a slight headache.
And a lot of the acting didn't seem right.

So Adam was Rose's boyfriend, but then she said not any more he isn't?
When did this happen?
That doesn't make sense. And that bit at the end between Rose and Adam where he asks her if he can go with her,...it just seemed a bit weird and didn't make much sense.

And you can tell that it was written in the 80's. Because when they use that future cash credit thing, the woman says "That'll do nicely" Oh, hardy har har.
Obviously a joke hinting toward the American Express commercials that were around in the 80's, and "That'll do nicely" was a big catchphrase.
Obviously designed to be topical back then, and audiences would have pissed themselves at that line.
But in 2005 the joke goes over most people's heads.
I think they should have written it out maybe.

The kids won't like this, and it would have just been plain boring for adults.

I suppose it was watchable, and advances the story arc though.
Simon Pegg was good, so was Chris.
Rose was completley ignored and might as well have not been there.
Bruno Langley wasn't too good.
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:12
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Originally Posted by mrfreeze
Well Rupert Murdock has done it.
Yes, I though that the hideous creature was an amusing dig at the digger by the BBC.
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:12
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Actually I really liked that! Fun, camp-ish, Simon Pegg excellent as ever.... but oh dear. Surely we can now file "Bad Wolf" firmly under "RED HERRING"
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:13
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Originally Posted by mrfreeze
Well Rupert Murdock has done it.

Ok enough with the social commentary.
LMAO!
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:14
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Originally Posted by Alrightmate
It's an episode such as this that isn't going to convince American TV networks to buy it.
Who gives a 4x?

The BBC are supposed to be making programmesfor the British, not permenantly looking over their shoulder to make sure things will sell to foreign stations.

Nice if they do, but it shouldn't be a priority.
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:14
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Another excellent episode IMO. Really enjoyed last weeks Dalek one as well. I was beginning to worry after the awful Aliens of London 2 parter but the series seems to have picked up again.

Hope Simon Pegg comes back as I thought he was excellent.Shame he couldn't have played The Master. Although I suppose theirs always a chance.
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:15
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At the end Dr Who Confidential Russell T Davis said a later episode will explain how the episode 7 monster got to where he was on the ceiling.
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:15
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good story but possibly a bit rushed and a bit messy. but as just seen on confidential, RTD says who installed the monster in the top of the satellite?....it will be answered later on!
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:16
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Originally Posted by cuilean
Actually I really liked that! Fun, camp-ish, Simon Pegg excellent as ever.... but oh dear. Surely we can now file "Bad Wolf" firmly under "RED HERRING"
well one episode towards the end of the series is called Bad Wolf
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:17
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I thought it was ok-Simon Pegg was the redeeming feature!

Generally I think the episodes that RTD writes are not as good as those by other script writers (bar #2)
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:18
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Originally Posted by david@payne01.f
At the end Dr Who Confidential Russell T Davis said a later episode will explain how the episode 7 monster got to where he was on the ceiling.
Yep, I caught that. i actually went 'oooOOOooo' when I heard it,.... got a funny look from the other half
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:19
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Originally Posted by Alrightmate
I agree.

The ideas were good, but there wasn't much of a story there. Very bog standard and average.

I voted "fair" for the first time.

For what Doctor Who is supposed to be, and the imapct it's supposed to make, this was poor.
It's an episode such as this that isn't going to convince American TV networks to buy it.

I thought the set design was ugly, messy and too cluttered too.
The look of it was so jarring that I feel slightly queasy and have a slight headache.
And that isn't a joke, it has genuinely given me a slight headache.
And a lot of the acting didn't seem right.

So Adam was Rose's boyfriend, but then she said not any more he isn't?
When did this happen?
That doesn't make sense. And that bit at the end between Rose and Adam where he asks her if he can go with her,...it just seemed a bit weird and didn't make much sense.

And you can tell that it was written in the 80's. Because when they use that future cash credit thing, the woman says "That'll do nicely" Oh, hardy har har.
Obviously a joke hinting toward the American Express commercials that were around in the 80's, and "That'll do nicely" was a big catchphrase.
Obviously designed to be topical back then, and audiences would have pissed themselves at that line.
But in 2005 the joke goes over most people's heads.
I think they should have written it out maybe.

The kids won't like this, and it would have just been plain boring for adults.

I suppose it was watchable, and advances the story arc though.
Simon Pegg was good, so was Chris.
Rose was completley ignored and might as well have not been there.
Bruno Langley wasn't too good.
If you watch Dr Who Confidential he said we wanted to leave Rose out the story this time otherwise people might get bored of her and the Doctor
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:20
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I voted good

lol at simon pegg just now (on doctor who confidential)
cocking up in his line
introducing the alien
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:20
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Originally Posted by phoenix1971
Hmmm..I'm in two minds....good build up but bit of a rushed conclusion. Simon Pegg played his part well, I'm hoping he somehow survived, but I doubt it. I just had a feeling that Adam would only be involved for himself. After all, he'd been working for a power hungry meglomaniac like Henry Van Statten for a few years, something was bound to rub off.

Liked the mum clicking her fingers at the end, funny.

Next week's trailer looked great, Rose trying to save her father, running past HERSELF after what seemed to be a failed rescue attempt, saving her father from dying when he was supposed to and therefore altering the timeline. Kinda reminded me of "Final Destination", with all those "death" winged creatures for some reason.
Saw that joke coming a mile off, as soon as she started saying she hadn't seen him for ages. Just knew she was going to say something like "doesn't time fly, it went like that" or something like that and click her fingers.

I agree next weeks trailer looked good. So it is next weeks story that is the episode featuring a "Back to the Future" storyline. Because the bit where they are looking at other versions of themselves from around the corner looks really good.

And I guess that kills the theory some people had that the Doctor can't go back in time in his own timeline to change things more than once, if that's what he and Rose were doing there.
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Old 07-05-2005, 20:20
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Originally Posted by cuilean
Actually I really liked that! Fun, camp-ish, Simon Pegg excellent as ever.... but oh dear. Surely we can now file "Bad Wolf" firmly under "RED HERRING"
Why?
I would assume that Bruno Langleys character is obviously "Bad Wolf". After his brains boost he will probably become the new bad guy (although likely played by an older actor).
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