Don't worry guys I will update you once I get a call-back regarding the situation.
Samsung Galaxy Note 7 to be unveiled on 2nd August
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Leaked Samsung document highlights toxic internal culture
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10...toxic_culture/
https://regmedia.co.uk/2016/10/13/sa...esentation.pdf
Quote:
“A leaked presentation to Samsung executives has provided further insight into the company's damaged internal culture.
The PowerPoint document focuses on strategies to prevent the creation of labor unions at the South Korean company and takes a very aggressive stance, treating employees as enemies and suggesting "countermeasures" as well as ways to "dominate employees."
It also talks about "punishing" union leaders, isolating "troublesome" employees and "inducing internal conflicts" as a way of intimidating employees and preventing the creation of unions. The presentation is also dismissive of labor laws and government ministers that have proposed changes to protect employees.
The presentation [PPT] [PDF] is dated 2012, but appears to have been used repeatedly by Samsung executives up until two years ago. It was unearthed by the International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC), which drew a direct line between the approach demonstrated in the presentation and the recent aborted launch of the Galaxy Note 7 due to exploding batteries.
"Inhumane conditions are rife" at the company, the ITUC reports, noting that Samsung employees are overworked, under-paid and forced to suffer appalling conditions, including "standing for 11 to 12 hours, verbal and physical abuse, severe age and gender discrimination, and lack of worker safety."
It quotes one worker who claimed that during an intense three-month period in the run-up to the release of a Galaxy tablet she slept only two or three hours a night and had to give up breastfeeding her three-month-old baby as a result.”
“A leaked presentation to Samsung executives has provided further insight into the company's damaged internal culture.
The PowerPoint document focuses on strategies to prevent the creation of labor unions at the South Korean company and takes a very aggressive stance, treating employees as enemies and suggesting "countermeasures" as well as ways to "dominate employees."
It also talks about "punishing" union leaders, isolating "troublesome" employees and "inducing internal conflicts" as a way of intimidating employees and preventing the creation of unions. The presentation is also dismissive of labor laws and government ministers that have proposed changes to protect employees.
The presentation [PPT] [PDF] is dated 2012, but appears to have been used repeatedly by Samsung executives up until two years ago. It was unearthed by the International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC), which drew a direct line between the approach demonstrated in the presentation and the recent aborted launch of the Galaxy Note 7 due to exploding batteries.
"Inhumane conditions are rife" at the company, the ITUC reports, noting that Samsung employees are overworked, under-paid and forced to suffer appalling conditions, including "standing for 11 to 12 hours, verbal and physical abuse, severe age and gender discrimination, and lack of worker safety."
It quotes one worker who claimed that during an intense three-month period in the run-up to the release of a Galaxy tablet she slept only two or three hours a night and had to give up breastfeeding her three-month-old baby as a result.”
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10...toxic_culture/
https://regmedia.co.uk/2016/10/13/sa...esentation.pdf
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Leaked Samsung document highlights toxic internal culture
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10...toxic_culture/
https://regmedia.co.uk/2016/10/13/sa...esentation.pdf”
“Leaked Samsung document highlights toxic internal culture
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10...toxic_culture/
https://regmedia.co.uk/2016/10/13/sa...esentation.pdf”
I don't want to defend this practice because it is obviously not right at all.
However I really don't think you can have a go at just Samsung here. It is well publicized that Apple have had very similar problems with the factories and third parties they use.
Originally Posted by WelshBluebird:
“I don't want to defend this practice because it is obviously not right at all.
However I really don't think you can have a go at just Samsung here. It is well publicized that Apple have had very similar problems with the factories and third parties they use.”
“I don't want to defend this practice because it is obviously not right at all.
However I really don't think you can have a go at just Samsung here. It is well publicized that Apple have had very similar problems with the factories and third parties they use.”
Bear in mind these are Samsung employees, working in Samsung factories directly managed by Samsung executives. Somewhat different from the outsourcing in China carried out by Apple et al.
This guy reckons the new LG V20 with a removable battery and dual cameras is the perfect Android phone :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQimf576ONU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQimf576ONU
The V20 does look like it ticks most boxes. The G5 was nice but flawed in many ways, and this definitely fixes those.
Shame LG won't bring it here.
Shame LG won't bring it here.
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“No wireless charging? No deal!”
“No wireless charging? No deal!”
The note also had wireless discharging!
Originally Posted by Skie:
“The note also had wireless discharging!”
“The note also had wireless discharging!”
All phones have wireless discharging, although the note has fast wireless discharging, very fast!
Well, something else for those who still harbour stupid ideas of continuing to use the Note7 to consider...
http://m.gsmarena.com/galaxy_note7_i...news-21087.php
I wouldn't be surprised to see other jurisdictions follow suit shortly.
Quote:
“The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA), today announced it is issuing an emergency order to ban all Samsung Galaxy Note7 smartphone devices from air transportation in the United States.
Individuals who own or possess a Samsung Galaxy Note7 device may not transport the device on their person, in carry-on baggage, or in checked baggage on flights to, from, or within the United States. This prohibition includes all Samsung Galaxy Note7 devices.
The phones also cannot be shipped as air cargo.
The ban will be effective on Saturday, October 15, 2016, at noon ET.”
“The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA), today announced it is issuing an emergency order to ban all Samsung Galaxy Note7 smartphone devices from air transportation in the United States.
Individuals who own or possess a Samsung Galaxy Note7 device may not transport the device on their person, in carry-on baggage, or in checked baggage on flights to, from, or within the United States. This prohibition includes all Samsung Galaxy Note7 devices.
The phones also cannot be shipped as air cargo.
The ban will be effective on Saturday, October 15, 2016, at noon ET.”
http://m.gsmarena.com/galaxy_note7_i...news-21087.php
I wouldn't be surprised to see other jurisdictions follow suit shortly.
Originally Posted by d123:
“Well, something else for those who still harbour stupid ideas of continuing to use the Note7 to consider...
http://m.gsmarena.com/galaxy_note7_i...news-21087.php
I wouldn't be surprised to see other jurisdictions follow suit shortly.”
“Well, something else for those who still harbour stupid ideas of continuing to use the Note7 to consider...
http://m.gsmarena.com/galaxy_note7_i...news-21087.php
I wouldn't be surprised to see other jurisdictions follow suit shortly.”
I wonder how that would work if you were flying back to the states on Sunday with your Note 7 after a few weeks away?
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“I wonder how that would work if you were flying back to the states on Sunday with your Note 7 after a few weeks away?”
“I wonder how that would work if you were flying back to the states on Sunday with your Note 7 after a few weeks away?”
You would get rid of it before flying or smuggle it and become a criminal
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Quote:
“If you disregard the ban and attempt to take a Note7 with you on a flight, it may be confiscated and you could face a fine. If you attempt to evade the ban by packing the phone in checked luggage you may be subject to criminal prosecution in addition to fines. If an airline rep sees that you have a Note7 in your possession prior to boarding, you will be denied boarding unless you get rid of the phone.
If you are caught with a Note7 on an airplane while it is already in flight, you will be instructed to "power off the device, not use or charge the device while aboard the aircraft, protect the device from accidental activation, including disabling any features that may turn on the device, such as alarm clocks". You will have to keep the handset on your person for the duration of the flight "and not in the overhead compartment, seat back pocket, nor in any carry-on baggage". You will then face fines once you've landed.”
“If you disregard the ban and attempt to take a Note7 with you on a flight, it may be confiscated and you could face a fine. If you attempt to evade the ban by packing the phone in checked luggage you may be subject to criminal prosecution in addition to fines. If an airline rep sees that you have a Note7 in your possession prior to boarding, you will be denied boarding unless you get rid of the phone.
If you are caught with a Note7 on an airplane while it is already in flight, you will be instructed to "power off the device, not use or charge the device while aboard the aircraft, protect the device from accidental activation, including disabling any features that may turn on the device, such as alarm clocks". You will have to keep the handset on your person for the duration of the flight "and not in the overhead compartment, seat back pocket, nor in any carry-on baggage". You will then face fines once you've landed.”
Why doesn't Samsung cut their losses and just sell the Note 7 as a new Vaping device?
Just add some nicotine juice of your choice!
Just add some nicotine juice of your choice!
Originally Posted by Brian The Dog:
“Why doesn't Samsung cut their losses and just sell the Note 7 as a new Vaping device?
Just add some nicotine juice of your choice!
”
“Why doesn't Samsung cut their losses and just sell the Note 7 as a new Vaping device?
Just add some nicotine juice of your choice!
”
Not even vaping devices are designed to spontaneously ignite and burn
I know Samsung have denied they will send a code to kill the Note 7 but it wouldn't surprise me if in a few months they do exactly that.
https://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news...galaxy-note-7/
https://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news...galaxy-note-7/
Samsung have just dished out the update if it was done overnight I'm unsure but first notification cme up 10 mins ago.
It doesn't appear when I try and charge the device like previously when Samsung did it to get users to exchange devices
It doesn't appear when I try and charge the device like previously when Samsung did it to get users to exchange devices
Originally Posted by d123:
“You would get rid of it before flying or smuggle it and become a criminal.”
“You would get rid of it before flying or smuggle it and become a criminal
.”
If they catch you with one when you're checking in, how are you supposed to get rid of it? It's not like you can just chuck it in the bin! And would airport security take it and stick it in their hazardous waste bins or whatever they have?
Originally Posted by Mandark:
“If they catch you with one when you're checking in, how are you supposed to get rid of it? It's not like you can just chuck it in the bin! And would airport security take it and stick it in their hazardous waste bins or whatever they have?”
“If they catch you with one when you're checking in, how are you supposed to get rid of it? It's not like you can just chuck it in the bin! And would airport security take it and stick it in their hazardous waste bins or whatever they have?”
That's not their problem, the rules just say you don't fly unless you get rid of it...
The DOT order:
Quote:
“What air travelers should know
If passengers attempt to travel by air with their Samsung Galaxy Note7 devices, they will be denied boarding.
Passengers who attempt to evade the ban by packing their phone in checked luggage are increasing the risk of a catastrophic incident. Anyone violating the ban may be subject to criminal prosecution in addition to fines.
Passengers currently traveling with Samsung Galaxy Note7 phones should contact Samsung or their wireless carrier immediately to obtain information about how to return their phones and arrange for a refund or a replacement phone. Samsung has provided guidance for customers about refund and replacement options, as well as how to contact wireless carriers, at http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/[external link]. Samsung is also answering customers’ questions at 1-844-365-6197.
If an airline representative observes that a passenger is in possession of a Samsung Note7 device prior to boarding an aircraft, the air carrier must deny boarding to the passenger unless and until the passenger divests themselves and their carry-on and checked baggage of the Samsung Galaxy Note7 device. Passengers absolutely should not pack the phones in their checked luggage.
If a flight crew member identifies that a passenger is in possession of a Samsung Galaxy Note7 device while the aircraft is in flight, the crew member must instruct the passenger to power off the device, not use or charge the device while aboard the aircraft, protect the device from accidental activation, including disabling any features that may turn on the device, such as alarm clocks, and keep the device on their person and not in the overhead compartment, seat back pocket, nor in any carry-on baggage, for the duration of the flight.
The Samsung Galaxy Note7 device is considered a forbidden hazardous material under the Federal Hazardous Material Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-185), which forbid airline passengers or crew from traveling with lithium cells or batteries or portable electronic devices that are likely to generate a dangerous evolution of heat. PHMSA has issued a special permit to Samsung to facilitate commercial shipment of the recalled devices by ground transportation.”
“What air travelers should know
If passengers attempt to travel by air with their Samsung Galaxy Note7 devices, they will be denied boarding.
Passengers who attempt to evade the ban by packing their phone in checked luggage are increasing the risk of a catastrophic incident. Anyone violating the ban may be subject to criminal prosecution in addition to fines.
Passengers currently traveling with Samsung Galaxy Note7 phones should contact Samsung or their wireless carrier immediately to obtain information about how to return their phones and arrange for a refund or a replacement phone. Samsung has provided guidance for customers about refund and replacement options, as well as how to contact wireless carriers, at http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/[external link]. Samsung is also answering customers’ questions at 1-844-365-6197.
If an airline representative observes that a passenger is in possession of a Samsung Note7 device prior to boarding an aircraft, the air carrier must deny boarding to the passenger unless and until the passenger divests themselves and their carry-on and checked baggage of the Samsung Galaxy Note7 device. Passengers absolutely should not pack the phones in their checked luggage.
If a flight crew member identifies that a passenger is in possession of a Samsung Galaxy Note7 device while the aircraft is in flight, the crew member must instruct the passenger to power off the device, not use or charge the device while aboard the aircraft, protect the device from accidental activation, including disabling any features that may turn on the device, such as alarm clocks, and keep the device on their person and not in the overhead compartment, seat back pocket, nor in any carry-on baggage, for the duration of the flight.
The Samsung Galaxy Note7 device is considered a forbidden hazardous material under the Federal Hazardous Material Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-185), which forbid airline passengers or crew from traveling with lithium cells or batteries or portable electronic devices that are likely to generate a dangerous evolution of heat. PHMSA has issued a special permit to Samsung to facilitate commercial shipment of the recalled devices by ground transportation.”
https://www.transportation.gov/brief...ones-airplanes
But all mobile phones have lithium cells as do all vaping devices. You are allowed to carry other mobile phone and provided you don't try and vape on the flight, you can take e-cigs as well. So, there is no prohibition on lithium cells that I know of.
Originally Posted by Brian The Dog:
“But all mobile phones have lithium cells as do all vaping devices. You are allowed to carry other mobile phone and provided you don't try and vape on the flight, you can take e-cigs as well. So, there is no prohibition on lithium cells that I know of.”
“But all mobile phones have lithium cells as do all vaping devices. You are allowed to carry other mobile phone and provided you don't try and vape on the flight, you can take e-cigs as well. So, there is no prohibition on lithium cells that I know of.”
Except for those specifically prohibited under the various regulations, like the Galaxy Note 7 as well as there being prohibition based on quantities, max weight etc.
Quote:
“The Samsung Galaxy Note7 device is considered a forbidden hazardous material under the Federal Hazardous Material Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-185), which forbid airline passengers or crew from traveling with lithium cells or batteries or portable electronic devices that are likely to generate a dangerous evolution of heat. ”
“The Samsung Galaxy Note7 device is considered a forbidden hazardous material under the Federal Hazardous Material Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-185), which forbid airline passengers or crew from traveling with lithium cells or batteries or portable electronic devices that are likely to generate a dangerous evolution of heat. ”
Originally Posted by Brian The Dog:
“But all mobile phones have lithium cells as do all vaping devices. You are allowed to carry other mobile phone and provided you don't try and vape on the flight, you can take e-cigs as well. So, there is no prohibition on lithium cells that I know of.”
“But all mobile phones have lithium cells as do all vaping devices. You are allowed to carry other mobile phone and provided you don't try and vape on the flight, you can take e-cigs as well. So, there is no prohibition on lithium cells that I know of.”
Three weeks ago - well before the world-wide recall - Lufthansa were explicitly demanding these handsets got switched off totally for flight. "Flight mode" was NOT good enough!
Originally Posted by d123:
“That's not their problem, the rules just say you don't fly unless you get rid of it...
The DOT order:
https://www.transportation.gov/brief...ones-airplanes”
“That's not their problem, the rules just say you don't fly unless you get rid of it...
The DOT order:
https://www.transportation.gov/brief...ones-airplanes”
Ah, some airlines have a special bag for mid air problems.
"Created by Baker Aviation, the Hot-Stop 'L' bag is designed to contain lithium ion batteries that fail while in flight, while the gloves are meant to protect flight staff who handle a failing device. The bags, which can withstand up to 3,200 degrees Fahrenheit, allow the crew to contain the device until it burns itself out."
http://mashable.com/2016/10/15/airli...note-7-safety/
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