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Samsung Galaxy Note 7 to be unveiled on 2nd August
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jonmorris
15-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mandark:
“Ah, some airlines have a special bag for mid air problems.

"Created by Baker Aviation, the Hot-Stop 'L' bag is designed to contain lithium ion batteries that fail while in flight, while the gloves are meant to protect flight staff who handle a failing device. The bags, which can withstand up to 3,200 degrees Fahrenheit, allow the crew to contain the device until it burns itself out."
http://mashable.com/2016/10/15/airli...note-7-safety/”

Jack should get one of those. Maybe if someone advertises it on TV, he will.
Jack_Wilson2
16-10-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Jack should get one of those. Maybe if someone advertises it on TV, he will.”

Already got 5 mate.
d123
16-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mandark:
“Ah, some airlines have a special bag for mid air problems.

"Created by Baker Aviation, the Hot-Stop 'L' bag is designed to contain lithium ion batteries that fail while in flight, while the gloves are meant to protect flight staff who handle a failing device. The bags, which can withstand up to 3,200 degrees Fahrenheit, allow the crew to contain the device until it burns itself out."
http://mashable.com/2016/10/15/airli...note-7-safety/”



I laughed at the headline in that link

Quote:
“This is what some airlines are using to protect you from the Samsung Note7”

Brian The Dog
16-10-2016
Ah I remember when the biggest threat to flying was terrorism!

Now they are second to a mobile phone!
AxeVictim
16-10-2016
They should just bung it out the window
darkjedimaster
16-10-2016
Originally Posted by Brian The Dog:
“Ah I remember when the biggest threat to flying was terrorism!

Now they are second to a mobile phone! ”

Then you could always combine the two

https://www.ayojon.mx/nota/7172.el-o...-galaxy-note-7
Brian The Dog
16-10-2016
Originally Posted by darkjedimaster:
“Then you could always combine the two

https://www.ayojon.mx/nota/7172.el-o...-galaxy-note-7”

Allahu Akbar!

d123
19-10-2016
Lots of unhappiness around the ban.

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/10/ho...e7-flight-ban/

Lovely advice from Samsung to one owner

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“Yesterday [16 October 2016] when I called, AT&T sent me over to Samsung (and after a long hold time) I was told by a rep that I could smuggle the phone back in a sock!”

The complete ban to air carriage seems to be spreading as well.

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An airline flight ban on Samsung's Galaxy Note 7 is spreading fast after reports some phones have caught fire.

Carriers in Australia, Asia and Europe put the phone on a prohibited list over the weekend, which comes after the US banned the device last week.

Carriers flying to the US inevitably had to follow suit, but the bans are spreading worldwide.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37674170
Jack_Wilson2
19-10-2016
Well my phone is still perfectly fine I have dropped it a few times but no cracks in the glass.
Everything Goes
19-10-2016
Samsung's mobile chief and staff in danger of losing jobs

It looks like there will be P45's a plenty at Samsung's mobile division over the Note 7 battery problems. Samsung still haven't given their official response to what the battery issue was. However it is expected that the mobile chief Koh Dong-jin will be looking for a new job with a few other expected to go as well.
Quote:
“Employees from other divisions claim that the speed with which the mobile division was operating and the quick decisions and changes they were making might have led to the Note7 disaster. Frustratingly, Samsung says it still doesn’t know what caused the Note7 devices to catch fire and explode, adding to the tensions among its staff.”

https://www.neowin.net/news/samsungs...-note7-debacle
anyonefortennis
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Samsung's mobile chief and staff in danger of losing jobs

It looks like there will be P45's a plenty at Samsung's mobile division over the Note 7 battery problems. Samsung still haven't given their official response to what the battery issue was. However it is expected that the mobile chief Koh Dong-jin will be looking for a new job with a few other expected to go as well.


https://www.neowin.net/news/samsungs...-note7-debacle”

I wonder if this could spell the end for Samsung mobile. It's going the be very hard to recover from this.
jonmorris
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I wonder if this could spell the end for Samsung mobile. It's going the be very hard to recover from this.”

I am not put off. In fact, I've not owned a Samsung phone for some time, but have been impressed with both the GS7 edge and Note 7.

If rumours turn out to be true that the S8 will get rid of the home button (hopefully putting the fingerprint reader on the back, which would be lovely) and gets front-facing stereo speakers, PLUS tones down TouchWiz even more, then I may well become a Samsung user again.

I would say that there's less chance of lighting striking twice than another manufacturer having problems next time around. Who knows, they might even go for a removable battery next time now.

While I rarely swap batteries, having that as an option could seal the deal. All they'd need to do is engineer it to remain waterproof (resistant) but that's possible and has been done before.
anyonefortennis
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“I am not put off. In fact, I've not owned a Samsung phone for some time, but have been impressed with both the GS7 edge and Note 7.

If rumours turn out to be true that the S8 will get rid of the home button (hopefully putting the fingerprint reader on the back, which would be lovely) and gets front-facing stereo speakers, PLUS tones down TouchWiz even more, then I may well become a Samsung user again.

I would say that there's less chance of lighting striking twice than another manufacturer having problems next time around. Who knows, they might even go for a removable battery next time now.

While I rarely swap batteries, having that as an option could seal the deal. All they'd need to do is engineer it to remain waterproof (resistant) but that's possible and has been done before.”

I wonder if wireless fast charging could be the cause with the battery. There must be a reason why Apple didn't introduce it this year. Maybe it isn't stable enough.
Everything Goes
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I wonder if wireless fast charging could be the cause. There must be a reason why Apple didn't introduce it this year. Maybe it isn't stable enough.”

Plenty of phones over the years support wireless charging (had it on my Galaxy S4) and there are no issues. So you are barking up the wrong tree with that wacky theory.
anyonefortennis
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Plenty of phones over the years support wireless charging (had it on my Galaxy S4) and there are no issues. So you are barking up the wrong tree with that wacky theory.”

But was the S4 as fast charging as the Galaxy Note 7?
Everything Goes
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“But was the S4 as fast charging as the Galaxy Note 7?”

Moving the goal posts?! Fast charging isn't new either. Samsung has been using Fast Charging since the Galaxy A5 and S6. No issues.
anyonefortennis
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Moving the goal posts?! Fast charging isn't new either. Samsung has been using Fast Charging since the Galaxy A5 and S6. No issues.”

But fast wireless charging.
jonmorris
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I wonder if wireless fast charging could be the cause with the battery. There must be a reason why Apple didn't introduce it this year. Maybe it isn't stable enough.”

I don't think there's any problem with wireless charging, which has existed for some years now. It's more likely a couple of things that Apple would want to improve.

1) Making it more reliable, as you only need to accidentally nudge your device and find out in an hour that it wasn't charging. Apple would fix this by having its own charging plates and likely a magnet to drag the phone into place.

2) Make it faster. Samsung has pretty much done this, but I'd expect Apple would want it to be 16% faster or something.

3) Make it proprietary? Make it so you need a special charging plate, which would handshake and only work if the vendor pays Apple a license fee.

Get all those things sorted and you've got wireless charging in the next iDevices!
anyonefortennis
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“I don't think there's any problem with wireless charging, which has existed for some years now. It's more likely a couple of things that Apple would want to improve.

1) Making it more reliable, as you only need to accidentally nudge your device and find out in an hour that it wasn't charging. Apple would fix this by having its own charging plates and likely a magnet to drag the phone into place.

2) Make it faster. Samsung has pretty much done this, but I'd expect Apple would want it to be 16% faster or something.

3) Make it proprietary? Make it so you need a special charging plate, which would handshake and only work if the vendor pays Apple a license fee.

Get all those things sorted and you've got wireless charging in the next iDevices!”

I wonder if we will ever find out what caused the batteries to burn on the Note 7. If that ever happens again with a Samsung device the company is finished.
jonmorris
19-10-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I wonder if we will ever find out what caused the batteries to burn on the Note 7. If that ever happens again with a Samsung device the company is finished.”

A lot of sites are saying Samsung is baffled, but I'm sure when they get them all back, they'll be able to find out. I am sure they've got many theories to test, having interviewed those affected.

Given how many Lithium Ion batteries are out there, including other Samsung phones, tablets, watches etc, I am sure they'll be able to make sure that even if they can't source the exact cause, they can still engineer out the problem by reverting to older designs.

So, I am pretty confident they'll be okay.

Other manufacturers will no doubt be painfully aware of the risk with their own designs, and I hope it might mean we stop racing to produce super thin phones.
Stiggles
20-10-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I wonder if this could spell the end for Samsung mobile. It's going the be very hard to recover from this.”

Not a chance. It will be a temporary blip.

I'm looking forward to getting my S7 Edge next week.
Stiggles
20-10-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I wonder if wireless fast charging could be the cause with the battery. There must be a reason why Apple didn't introduce it this year. Maybe it isn't stable enough.”

It's perfectly stable and the many phones that use it and havent vented gas from the battery shows this!

Apple are always late to the party when it comes to introducing things.
Denco1
20-10-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I wonder if wireless fast charging could be the cause with the battery. There must be a reason why Apple didn't introduce it this year. Maybe it isn't stable enough.”

The S6 edge+ and Note 5 were the first devices to support 15W wireless charging, and they had no issues. Besides the fact, many users stated they only charged their N7 with a USB cord. I very much doubt it has anything to do with wireless charging.
jonmorris
20-10-2016
I would use a cable most of the time, especially when moving and using a portable charger, but I'd value a wireless charging option.

I bought two Ikea lights with charging plates and have a number of other charging plates. I now have only a G3, Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 that can use them. Such a shame.
gomezz
20-10-2016
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Plenty of phones over the years support wireless charging (had it on my Galaxy S4) and there are no issues. So you are barking up the wrong tree with that wacky theory.”

Wireless charging has been around for years but fast charging is comparatively new as is fast wireless charging.
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