I think your perception of what 'antisocial' tends to mean in the UK as opposed to the USA may differ a bit too.
Yes antisocial can be used to describe somebody who isn't very sociable, but in the UK it has come to sometimes mean antisocial in the context of being associated with low level criminality.
As in the ASBO (Anti-social behaviour order) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-s...ehaviour_order

I personally hate the word chav as it appeared to be adopted by people to look down their noses at young working class people in general in a very snobby way.
In your country an equivalent type of insult might be 'trailer trash'.

Thanks you saved me the effort

They're threats to the 'communities' in a sense, the undesirables.

Once used to describe working class kids that liked designer clothes (even though middle class and upper class kids love designer clothes as well). Now used to insult the likes of hairdressers, models, actors, private investigators and call centre workers (the occupations of all the so called 'chavs' currently in the big brother house). Only used now by the most rabid haters of the working class (especially by people that were born working class but moved up in life and now see themselves as superior).

Thank you both!

The explanation of "antisocial" helped a lot since I was thinking of the USA use of the word.

I try to avoid stereotypes and will gladly avoid the term "chav" (not that I planned to use it)

By working class do you mean lower socioeconomic groups but they are still working? There is no shame in working.

Or does working class also include people on "the dole" (welfare) that are using/abusing the system (maybe because they were raised a certain way so it is engrained in them)?

In the US we use lower class, middle class and upper class but mainly based (or solely based) on socio-economic status. I wonder if it is different in the UK due to the upper upper class having titles or affiliations with titled or aristocrats?

I don't want to get into a political discussion or debate on class systems but just want to know if working class means the segment of society that is working but not making much money which is different, imo, from the people being solely supported by the government (specifically abled-bodied mentally competent people who are not employed)? That includes people born into poverty and may not know of a way to break that cycle for a variety of reasons. I don't include, in that group, single parents with multiple young children, disabled, elderly, etc...

I always think of a 'chav' as someone who thinks being thick is something to be proud of

You can guarantee if one of them were to get their grubby mitts on the remaining cash they'd be off running into the sunset, with their loot tucked firmly into their grubby mitts without a backward glance or a thought for Lateysha!
It's all talk!

More like entitlement. Glad she's gone

Well that's something to be grateful for

I am absolutely delighted that she's gone and the chav fury is merely icing on the cake.

It's impossible to say whether working class includes unemployed people - some unemployed people are technically of other classes - being unemployed is not just something that happens to working class people. Companies close, people lose their jobs through redundancy, availability of jobs goes down especially in recession times, etc.

If you mean are people claiming welfare the 'working class' - well a high percentage of low-earning working people claim in-work welfare assistance to enable them to live.

I've come to define the the term 'chav' as being anybody that the person using it thinks is beneath them, so it depends on the user and how many people they look down on really!

With regard to 'chav' it's not a political insult, it's a social insult. Have to say it's the word I hate most and I tend to avoid anybody who uses it.

ETA: More of a General Discussion topic really

I was starting to suspect that maybe BB were editing out him mentioning her.

But I actually do think he has just about forgotten her.

If the need arises though, I'm sure she will once more become the love of his life.

BIB. I think it's a combination of income and/or wealth + social standing + education and 'cultural capital'.

There are some interpretations here:

https://www.theguardian.com/notesand...,-1257,00.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22007058

Ah but she is a single mom while Jackson's child is with his ex. He doesn't go about "I', doing it for my boy" all the time. There is no issue about women with kids going in to BB but using it as a shield or as a reason to win IS the problem.

Also the whole idea of sacrificing yourself to work to provide for the child by going to BB instead of getting a proper job instead of a TV competition, spending three months AWAY lazing around in string bikinis, twerking, flashing boobs and talking crap

There's a video being shared of Lateysha twerking on BOTs and her dress splitting and the comments are like from some of the people on there about how terrible Jason is and how Lateysha was robbed.

The indignation of the chavs

Who exactly are "The Chavs"?

Well, like it or not....this isn't 1985 (i know, i was there ).
We're in 2016 now and this is how a lot of younger people think.
There aren't much job oppurtunities out there in the real world anyway.
So going on BB is much better than the really dodgy alternatives to making money!

In any case, Lateysha has left her Baby with the Baby's Gran....so i'm sure she's in very capable hands.
Some people are going on like she left the baby alone, to fend for itself!!!

Sam, Jackson, Ryan, Hughie.

I imagine, anyway.

Jackson's child lives with his mother who is a single parent with two children.

Not having children whom you cannot afford to support is an even better option.

BIB This is the problem right here.
What year it is doesn't validate it.
Perhaps younger people shouldn't be thinking like this. Because this is likely to be a cause which sets up huge disappointments in life for the millions of younger people who don't make it as a reality TV 'star'. It's an unrealistic nonsense illusion which can only possibly favour a minuscule amount of people while everyone else is left on the scrapheap crying over why their dream failed them.

In that respect Jason is offering a valuable life lesson.
You set yourself up with a dream of becoming a celebrity by becoming a reality TV 'star'. And then this little thing called reality brutally smashes your dream to pieces.
He's teaching them something here.

I think it pretty much means the same as in America. Though I got the impression in the past that in America it has been ok to brag about your wealth, and someone is thought better if they earn more.

In the UK things have changed plenty in the last 60 years. Nearly all areas of life are definitely open beyond titled people or their families. But those from the outside probably don't imagine that, the same surprise probably comes when they don't see businessmen wearing bowler hats or policemen wearing helmets.

I believe the working people of Britain and also those that claim social benefits are now bungled into the same category.

Great post!

It's just one of those unfortunate words that's used to Lord it over others. It suggests more about the user than the recipient.