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Old 14-07-2016, 22:29
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It's not exactly ignorance when it comes from personal experience as a gay man
Well good for you if you don't practice monogamy, but don't speak for the rest of us gay men please as if it is fact. We already have to fight off enough stereotypes.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:30
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It's not exactly ignorance when it comes from personal experience as a gay man
It is ignorance. I know many gay couples who practice monogamy and many straight couples who cheat.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:30
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Doesn't mean you can speak on behalf of all gay men, I was in a monagamous relationship for 7 years
I'm not speaking on behalf of all gay men, more as a general rule. As with every rule, there will be exceptions.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:32
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Thought there was something creepy about him.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:34
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I'm not speaking on behalf of all gay men, more as a general rule. As with every rule, there will be exceptions.
Ignorance is generalising
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:35
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Warning: That Mirror article auto loads a video of their nauseating, desperate, attention seeking engagement.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:36
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Ignorance is generalising
No. It isn't. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. Generalising is making a broad statement based on specific cases.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:36
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I doubt it will come as much of a shock to Andy, it's most likely an open relationship. Monogamy doesn't really exist in gay relationships, it's not the deal breaker that it is for straight couples.
I don't believe that. I've got gay friends who are monogamous, and have been faithful to each other for twenty years.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:37
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Well, we'll all have to ask Andy when he gets out.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:37
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No. It isn't. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. Generalising is making a broad statement based on specific cases.
Generalising and specific are antonyms, dear
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:38
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He probably gave him a hallpass
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:42
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Generalising and specific are antonyms, dear
Yes I know, dear. That's why I said generalising is where you take specific cases, and from these find a commonality, which you then apply generally to things as a whole.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:45
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Yes I know, dear. That's why I said generalising is where you take specific cases, and from these find a commonality, which you then apply generally to things as a whole.
Which is what you've done about the gay community. Notice how not one gay person has agreed with what you've said? Clearly got issues so take some tissues
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:47
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So Ed and Andy's engagement is more of a joke than Hughie and Ryan's

oh dear
Damn very true!
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:48
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An absolute nightmare. Deleted it within an hour.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:52
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Which is what you've done about the gay community. Notice how not one gay person has agreed with what you've said? Clearly got issues
Yes I know it's what I've done, I said as much in a previous post. It was a general rule based on my own personal experiences as a gay man and as someone who has known many gay men over the years, not one who has been in a long-term monogamous relationship, although many have been in open ones.

Cheating isn't nearly as common in gay relationships as it is in straight ones, for the simple reason that those who do seek monogamous gay relationships, of which there are some, will find them, and those that don't will have an open relationship, hence the lack of infidelity. There isn't the pressure on gay men to settle down, so for those gay men that want to 'sleep around' they can without ever having to cheat, and likewise, should a gay man want monogamy and fidelity they can have it with a like minded man.

If a gay man in a relationship is seeking sex with others, it's unlikely to be infidelity, more likely just enjoying the virtues of their open relationship, which they chose for the simple fact that they knew monogamy was not what they wanted, and had no trouble finding a like minded gay partner.
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Old 14-07-2016, 22:57
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Yes I know it's what I've done, I said as much in a previous post. It was a general rule based on my own personal experiences as a gay man and as someone who has known many gay men over the years, not one who has been in a long-term monogamous relationship, although many have been in open ones.

Cheating isn't nearly as common in gay relationships as it is in straight ones, for the simple reason that those who do seek monogamous gay relationships, of which there are some, will find them, and those that don't will have an open relationship, hence the lack of infidelity. There isn't the pressure on gay men to settle down, so for those gay men that want to 'sleep around' they can without ever having to cheat, and likewise, should a gay man want monogamy and fidelity they can have it with a like minded man.

If a gay man in a relationship is seeking sex with others, it's unlikely to be infidelity, more likely just enjoying the virtues of their open relationship, which they chose for the simple fact that they knew monogamy was not what they wanted, and had no trouble finding a like minded gay partner.
That's based on your experience alone. You can't speak for the whole gay community. It's not our fault you've been unlucky in love. You show your ignorance by generalising.
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Old 14-07-2016, 23:03
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Further evidence that "engagement" was completely staged.
Ed wasn't loyal to Andy in the house. He said something critical about him to some of the HMS and also said he liked the people who Andy didn't like.
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Old 14-07-2016, 23:03
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That's based on your experience alone. You can't speak for the whole gay community. It's not our fault you've been unlucky in love. You show your ignorance by generalising.
Oh ffs can't he not speak about his experiences.

He's not ignorant in the slightest. He's honest more like.
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Old 14-07-2016, 23:05
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That's based on your experience alone. You can't speak for the whole gay community. It's not our fault you've been unlucky in love. You show your ignorance by generalising.
But it's not based on just my experience alone , but also that of the hundreds of gay men I've known over the years, none of whom have ever wanted nor had a monogamous, faithful relationship. I don't doubt that there are gay men who want that in life, and I will accept that my use of the word monogamy in my original post (way back when) was incorrect. What i meant was more along the lines of infidelity, and that those who wish to be 'unfaithful' simply avoid entering into monogamous relationships to begin with.

I have no intention of speaking for the whole of the gay community, I was simply making a statement based on the experiences of not just myself but every single gay man that I've ever met. And to clarify, I have never ever been unlucky in love, because love is something I've never sought.
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Old 14-07-2016, 23:05
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Oh ffs can't he not speak about his experiences.

He's not ignorant in the slightest. He's honest more like.
Generalising is dangerous and leads to misconceptions
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Old 14-07-2016, 23:10
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But it's not based on just my experience alone , but also that of the hundreds of gay men I've known over the years, none of whom have ever wanted nor had a monogamous, faithful relationship. I don't doubt that there are gay men who want that in life, and I will accept that my use of the word monogamy in my original post (way back when) was incorrect. What i meant was more along the lines of infidelity, and that those who wish to be 'unfaithful' simply avoid entering into monogamous relationships to begin with.

I have no intention of speaking for the whole of the gay community, I was simply making a statement based on the experiences of not just myself but every single gay man that I've ever met. And to clarify, I have never ever been unlucky in love, because love is something I've never sought.
I'm glad that you've acknowledged its just your opinion. At first, you sounded as if you were trying to be the voice of god
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Old 14-07-2016, 23:10
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People are being stoned to death and Ed goes and does this!?
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Old 14-07-2016, 23:18
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To clarify, they aren't in an open relationship, or at any rate not one that allows either one of them to sleep with others. Emma asked Andy on Launch Night if he'd be looking for anyone to have a romance with in the House, and he said, 'No, I've got a partner…'

Of course, it's possible that Andy allows Ed to sleep with other people sometimes and Andy doesn't wish to himself. That does happen.

If Ed is cheating on Andy, I would imagine we'd hear nothing about it from him. Andy strikes me as the type of person who keeps his private life private.
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Old 14-07-2016, 23:19
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If one were to obtain some photos of someone, one might be able to set up a fake profile.

Just saying.
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