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Andy's Fiance has been using Grindr to meet men and has been sending nudes to them
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muggins14
14-07-2016
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“But it's not based on just my experience alone , but also that of the hundreds of gay men I've known over the years, none of whom have ever wanted nor had a monogamous, faithful relationship. I don't doubt that there are gay men who want that in life, and I will accept that my use of the word monogamy in my original post (way back when) was incorrect. What i meant was more along the lines of infidelity, and that those who wish to be 'unfaithful' simply avoid entering into monogamous relationships to begin with.

I have no intention of speaking for the whole of the gay community, I was simply making a statement based on the experiences of not just myself but every single gay man that I've ever met. And to clarify, I have never ever been unlucky in love, because love is something I've never sought.”

Have to say, I'm straight and I've never been with a faithful straight man, so in my experience straight men aren't monogamous.

Of course, I know that this isn't really the case
muggins14
14-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“If one were to obtain some photos of someone, one might be able to set up a fake profile.

Just saying.”

It does strike me as oddly well-timed - this guy goes running to the press, lovely little earner.
EnricoIV
14-07-2016
Originally Posted by xmel05:
“http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/h...y-west-8421569

So what do we think of this”

I think that people who believe stories written in British tabloids have poor judgment.
BillyLagan
14-07-2016
Originally Posted by AA2009:
“People are being stoned to death and Ed goes and does this!?”

My thoughts exactly!

jp761
14-07-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Have to say, I'm straight and I've never been with a faithful straight man, so in my experience straight men aren't monogamous.

Of course, I know that this isn't really the case ”

Hence those three bad boys you own!!

But naughty muggins in more ways than one. Some men have never cheated in their life. And some of us can stick to one at a time, when in a relationship. Some of us also just stay single and go for single sexual partners. If we feel like not just being with the one person! Personally I detest cheating full stop.
Heatherbell
14-07-2016
Ed is very oily and smarmy . I totally understand that he might call Andy his "baby" at home and do all the soppy stuff, but knowing they're on camera you'd expect him to tone it down a bit . Nope , it was nauseating to be honest . The only "reunion" couple I took to were Bernardo and Laura (and yet I dislike Laura intensely). But theirs was the most genuinely sweet meeting . The other two were crap. One sex obsessed (Emma) and one so oily and creepy that it was puke inducing (Ed) .
Poor Andy . I can't imagine he will be OK with that , and Ed bloody knows it , hence ensuring to keep it from his (Ed's) housemates .
mkirilenkofan
14-07-2016
In fairness to Ed....he may be in an open relationship with Andy.

Me and my BF have been together for 8 years (happily) and we have both been with another guy in that time. We do need the others approval and it isnt a regular thing. Honesty is best.

For all we know, Andy may have been told when they were together in the other house.
muggins14
14-07-2016
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Hence those three bad boys you own!!

But naughty muggins in more ways than one. Some men have never cheated in their life. And some of us can stick to one at a time, when in a relationship. Some of us also just stay single and go for single sexual partners. If we feel like not just being with the one person! Personally I detest cheating full stop.”

Most of us do - that was my point really. Judging a whole sex by ones own personal experience is, essentially, dumb and rather narrow minded

I have 2 brothers - both in 20+ years monogamous relationships, my late parents were married for nearly 60 (would have been this year if they hadn't corked it ). I know most people - men, women, gay, straight, are decent, honest and faithful. I don't judge all men by my experience.
jp761
14-07-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Most of us do - that was my point really. Judging a whole sex by ones own personal experience is, essentially, dumb and rather narrow minded

I have 2 brothers - both in 20+ years monogamous relationships, my late parents were married for nearly 60 (would have been this year if they hadn't corked it ). I know most people - men, women, gay, straight, are decent, honest and faithful. I don't judge all men by my experience.”

I know you wouldn't do that. You're far too intelligent for that. I call a spade a spade, not blowing smoke up your bum! lol

muggins14
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by jp761:
“I know you wouldn't do that. You're far too intelligent for that. I call a spade a spade, not blowing smoke up your bum! lol

”

That's way too kinky for me
jp761
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“ That's way too kinky for me ”

lol

I don't smoke, they wouldn't go near my mouth so you're safe!!
dee-rec
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by AA2009:
“People are being stoned to death and Ed goes and does this!?”

Ha ha ha that did make me laugh
gilesb
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“I doubt it will come as much of a shock to Andy, it's most likely an open relationship. Monogamy doesn't really exist in gay relationships, it's not the deal breaker that it is for straight couples.”

Well I disagree with that statement, I know many gay couples and few are in "open" relationships.
absalomabsalom
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“I doubt it will come as much of a shock to Andy, it's most likely an open relationship. Monogamy doesn't really exist in gay relationships, it's not the deal breaker that it is for straight couples.”

What utter, utter offensive bullshit. Christ, what is wrong with people?
gilesb
15-07-2016
Is he claiming to be 29?
absalomabsalom
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“I'm not speaking on behalf of all gay men, more as a general rule. As with every rule, there will be exceptions.”

You are speaking from your experience which does not make it a general rule. Straight people have affairs, gay people have affairs - saying most gay people don't know how to be monogamous is utterly offensive and homophobic (yes, even if you are gay yourself).
Annsyre
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by xmel05:
“http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/h...y-west-8421569

So what do we think of this”

It happened before he proposed and it's none of our business.

Recirculating tittle tattle is ignorant.
sorcha_healy27
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by goroos1994:
“Generalising is dangerous and leads to misconceptions”

It depends on the generalisation.
Damon_Plembury
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by absalomabsalom:
“You are speaking from your experience which does not make it a general rule. Straight people have affairs, gay people have affairs - saying most gay people don't know how to be monogamous is utterly offensive and homophobic (yes, even if you are gay yourself).”

Agreed, I've been in monogamous relationship with my partner for 8 years. I would never ever contemplate ever even kissing another man.

That is the height of disrespect.

He wouldn't ever dream of cheating on me.

We respect and love each other too much.

Why anyone would want to actively live with distrust and insecurity in your relationship baffles me.

I LOVE being exclusively with one person. Its safe, secure and beyond happy. We are soul mates.

Promiscuity and having hundreds of partners is something that never ever appealed to me. What a lonely life that must be
Supercalifragil
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“I doubt it will come as much of a shock to Andy, it's most likely an open relationship. Monogamy doesn't really exist in gay relationships, it's not the deal breaker that it is for straight couples.”

What??? Where did you get this pearl of wisdom from? Utter rubbish!
Tahitian
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Agreed, I've been in monogamous relationship with my partner for 8 years. I would never ever contemplate ever even kissing another man.

That is the height of disrespect.

He wouldn't ever dream of cheating on me.

We respect and love each other too much.

Why anyone would want to actively live with distrust and insecurity in your relationship baffles me.

I LOVE being exclusively with one person. Its safe, secure and beyond happy. We are soul mates.

Promiscuity and having hundreds of partners is something that never ever appealed to me. What a lonely life that must be”

Where are the straight men like this ^
Serojay
15-07-2016
I've been with my boyfriend for 13 years and the thought of being with another guy doesn't interest me.
I feel sorry for the other members of the gay community who will never experience loving someone enough to be faithful. They'll end up as old cat ladies who die lonely.
Alrightmate
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by AA2009:
“People are being stoned to death and Ed goes and does this!?”



It's almost like he's making a mockery of same sex marriage.

On a serious note I feel bad for Andy if this is true. Because I think he's going to be devastated. It will be tasteless and tactless if Emma exploits this in his BB exit interview.
TheDC
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
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It's almost like he's making a mockery of same sex marriage.

On a serious note I feel bad for Andy if this is true. Because I think he's going to be devastated. It will be tasteless and tactless if Emma exploits this in his BB exit interview.”

I think Emma should do. Their whole marriage thing was tasteless.

I think its probably true with the nudes and seeing how slimy this guy was.
Heartache
15-07-2016
Considering how contrived the whole engagement thing was to bring an aah moment to Andy's "journey". l would not be suprised if this story is to illicite some sympathy for poor, old, straight lace, serious Andy to enhance his chances.
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