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Whose detox was better? Ste on Hollyoaks or Holly on Emmerdale?


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Old 15-07-2016, 13:38
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So this week we had two relapsed drug addicts trying to kick the habit once again with Moira locking Holly in her room on Emmerdale and Harry and Tony locking Ste in Tony's apartment. So which one do you think was better?

I really loved the scenes between Moira and Holly, they were shocking disturbing and came off very real. Hollyoaks lacked that so I have to give the win to Emmerdale.
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Old 15-07-2016, 13:40
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So this week we had two relapsed drug addicts trying to kick the habit once again with Moira locking Holly in her room on Emmerdale and Harry and Tony locking Ste in Tony's apartment. So which one do you think was better?

I really loved the scenes between Moira and Holly, they were shocking disturbing and came off very real. Hollyoaks lacked that so I have to give the win to Emmerdale.
Emmerdale all the way!
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Old 15-07-2016, 13:46
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I'm a Hollyoaks viewer but I'll say Emmerdale.
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Old 15-07-2016, 13:48
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I'm a Hollyoaks viewer but I'll say Emmerdale.
I watch both and I think Hollyoaks has been better overall then Ememrdale the past few months but as far as the drug storie goes, Emmerdale came out on top.
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Old 15-07-2016, 13:52
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Holly in Emmerdale by far
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Old 15-07-2016, 13:54
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I never thought I would say this, but Holly's was better.
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Old 15-07-2016, 14:00
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I think Emmerdale overall has done the storyline better.
With HO, Meth is such an awful powerful disgusting drug that completely ruins peoples lives, and the 3 hander showed this quite well, Ste hurting the people he loves, him in pain, sweating, scratching etc, but prior to this, all we've really seen is him looking sweaty. It all feels quite rushed.
Meth isn't used so much in the UK compared to the US and some other countries, so HO had a real chance at showing the true consequences of it, and I think they have missed some of that.
Ok they did have Nico try it and end up in hospital, but even that felt a bit rushed and not thought out properly, and she was back at home the next day looking healthier than ever!

With Emmerdale, it has been a long running storyline, showing Holly struggling, trying to stop but keep relapsing, showing the problems that can happen, getting other people into trouble, other people getting hurt, and the scenes with Holly and Moira were incredible and so emotional.

Both shows did well though, and hats off to the main actors portraying such storylines, as this can't be easy to do.
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Old 15-07-2016, 14:10
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I think Emmerdale overall has done the storyline better.
With HO, Meth is such an awful powerful disgusting drug that completely ruins peoples lives, and the 3 hander showed this quite well, Ste hurting the people he loves, him in pain, sweating, scratching etc, but prior to this, all we've really seen is him looking sweaty. It all feels quite rushed.
Meth isn't used so much in the UK compared to the US and some other countries, so HO had a real chance at showing the true consequences of it, and I think they have missed some of that.
Ok they did have Nico try it and end up in hospital, but even that felt a bit rushed and not thought out properly, and she was back at home the next day looking healthier than ever!

With Emmerdale, it has been a long running storyline, showing Holly struggling, trying to stop but keep relapsing, showing the problems that can happen, getting other people into trouble, other people getting hurt, and the scenes with Holly and Moira were incredible and so emotional.

Both shows did well though, and hats off to the main actors portraying such storylines, as this can't be easy to do.
That is a great analysis both stories and I do think Hollyoaks rushed the meths story and I think they played down the effects the drug has on you. Meth is very hard drug people lose teeth and they've even shown how the drug can age you after taking it just a couple of times.
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Old 15-07-2016, 14:58
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I've not watched oaks for a while so Emmerdale.

It was quite distressing, and you actually felt it, and I actually feel sorry for Holly, because I know she wants to change! It's been so good, so well acted!
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Old 15-07-2016, 15:42
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Emmerdale. Hollyoaks pacing of the story is very off.
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Old 15-07-2016, 18:16
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Emmerdale. Hollyoaks pacing of the story is very off.
Agreed.

And I couldn't care less about the overused Ste and his trials and tribulations (plus as he is one of the producers' favourites, he will recover, anyhow).
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Old 15-07-2016, 18:21
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Agreed.

And I couldn't care less about the overused Ste and his trials and tribulations (plus as he is one of the producers' favourites, he will recover, anyhow).
I agree. And I find I have more sympathy for Holly's story than Ste's. She seems really genuine in wanting to change and is showing true guilt for what she's put her family through. I think the actress who plays Holly has improved and Natalie J. Robb is always great.
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Old 15-07-2016, 18:26
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I agree. And I find I have more sympathy for Holly's story than Ste's. She seems really genuine in wanting to change and is showing true guilt for what she's put her family through. I think the actress who plays Holly has improved and Natalie J. Robb is always great.
Now i have to disagree with you there. I think Ste really does want to change.
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Old 15-07-2016, 18:48
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Now i have to disagree with you there. I think Ste really does want to change.
If he wanted to he would. Its a cycle with Ste that hasn't changed. He'll inevitably relapse again. Plus it's ALWAYS someone else's fault as well. Cameron got him on the drugs😕 no he did the drugs that Cameron tempted him with. Take responsibility? Yeah right!!!😂
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Old 15-07-2016, 18:52
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If he wanted to he would. Its a cycle with Ste that hasn't changed. He'll inevitably relapse again. Plus it's ALWAYS someone else's fault as well. Cameron got him on the drugs😕 no he did the drugs that Cameron tempted him with. Take responsibility? Yeah right!!!😂
Yeah, that's another thing. I appreciate how Holly is really looking inward through this and stepping up and admitting that it's her fault.
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Old 15-07-2016, 18:53
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If he wanted to he would. Its a cycle with Ste that hasn't changed. He'll inevitably relapse again. Plus it's ALWAYS someone else's fault as well. Cameron got him on the drugs😕 no he did the drugs that Cameron tempted him with. Take responsibility? Yeah right!!!😂
I didn't hear Ste blaming Cameron last night. I do think Ste is a weak minded person that is easily influenced by others and that is what has lead him down this path.
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Old 15-07-2016, 18:57
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I didn't hear Ste blaming Cameron last night. I do think Ste is a weak minded person that is easily influenced by others and that is what has lead him down this path.
He's blamed Cameron everytime he has talked about the drugs and told Leela and Tegan last night. He has not said its his fault. He's blamed Cameron and was practically forced to accept help. It's just a reaccuring cycle and its extremely boring and Kieron needs to go. Ste is a character long past his sell by date and forcing him to the front of the show has ruined him. He's BK's pet and it shows.
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Old 15-07-2016, 18:57
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As I type, not a single vote for the Ste storyline
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Old 15-07-2016, 19:02
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He's blamed Cameron everytime he has talked about the drugs and told Leela and Tegan last night. He has not said its his fault. He's blamed Cameron and was practically forced to accept help. It's just a reaccuring cycle and its extremely boring and Kieron needs to go. Ste is a character long past his sell by date and forcing him to the front of the show has ruined him. He's BK's pet and it shows.
He did say it was his fault and he told Harry not to be with him cuz he's no good.

As I type, not a single vote for the Ste storyline
I really wanted to vote for Ste but the three hander came off weak IMHO. The scenes with Holly were much better done. Maybe it had do with their screen partners. Harry and Tony aren't the best actors, maybe if this had been done in the days of Stedan and it was two hander with them it would have been more gripping.
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Old 15-07-2016, 19:11
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I sincerely hope there is more to both storylines but from what we've seen. Holly, hands down.
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Old 15-07-2016, 19:16
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With HO, we*'re told that Crystal Meth is the hardest drug to withdraw from but the way it was presented, Ste just went hot and cold a few times during the night and trying to hit Harry and being told that tony loves him was all it took. One bad night and he's on the road to recovery.

Sorry, but I don't buy that and actually think it is rather insulting to thos people that have had to try and come off drugs or had loved ones that have gone through it.

It's not even as if realising that he has a problem and needed help was the psychological turning of the corner for Ste so he would now co-operate with rehab (like Olivia at the end of 'No Miracle Worker' for anybody that remembers Knots Landing) as he already knew and accepted that he had a problem and would need help and it isn't the first time it's happened either.
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Old 15-07-2016, 19:20
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With HO, we*'re told that Crystal Meth is the hardest drug to withdraw from but the way it was presented, Ste just went hot and cold a few times during the night and trying to hit Harry and being told that tony loves him was all it took. One bad night and he's on the road to recovery.

Sorry, but I don't buy that and actually think it is rather insulting to thos people that have had to try and come off drugs or had loved ones that have gone through it.

It's not even as if realising that he has a problem and needed help was the psychological turning of the corner for Ste so he would now co-operate with rehab (like Olivia at the end of 'No Miracle Worker' for anybody that remembers Knots Landing) as he already knew and accepted that he had a problem and would need help and it isn't the first time it's happened either.
I thought of that episode as I watched the three hander. I loved that episode of Knots Laniding. It really showed Abby in a different light, she wasn't just the money and power hungry schemer. I loved the scene where Abby took a hammer to the door and beat it a hole in it to stop Olivia from getting high.
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Old 15-07-2016, 19:22
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I sincerely hope there is more to both storylines but from what we've seen. Holly, hands down.
But you voted for Ste?
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Old 15-07-2016, 19:22
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He did say it was his fault and he told Harry not to be with him cuz he's no good.



I really wanted to vote for Ste but the three hander came off weak IMHO. The scenes with Holly were much better done. Maybe it had do with their screen partners. Harry and Tony aren't the best actors, maybe if this had been done in the days of Stedan and it was two hander with them it would have been more gripping.
Wasn't he saying that hitting Harry was his fault rather than having started taking drugs again. Also, sorry to say it, but the "not good enough for you" is just ste's particular brand of self pity and the cynic in me says he does it to provoke the response of "oh no, that's not true, you're lovely and you deserve all good things to happen to you and i'm going to stay with you to make sure they do". He does the same thing with his sisters and tony and has done it in nearly every significant relationship he has had.

I agree with the other posters, he hasn't accepted responsibility for his own decisions - he is blaming Cameron, stating that he got him hooked on Crystal Meth. Hmm, no excuse me, Cameron didn't. He did not inject Ste with Crystal Meth, he didn't lace his food, anything like that. He did offer him the drug, bigging up how good it would make you feel and that is an appalling and unforgivable thing to do to a recovering addict, but Ste still made the decision to take it knowing what the consequences would be for him. He did have free will and he isn't acknowledging that.
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Old 15-07-2016, 19:25
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But you voted for Ste?
What, I didn't mean to!! Crap. My signal keeps dropping out and my phone was buffering, i must have hit the wrong button during that time.

I meant to vote that Holly's was better.
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