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Old 26-07-2016, 20:49
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Which we know is coming very soon. So it's all rather moot.
It remains to be seen what masts it will be added to and how dense the coverage is. Vodafone's strategy seems to be to get all the masts done eventually so in my experience their coverage is better.
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Old 26-07-2016, 22:09
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It remains to be seen what masts it will be added to and how dense the coverage is. Vodafone's strategy seems to be to get all the masts done eventually so in my experience their coverage is better.
All we in the South West would say is 'Show us the F*&$%g' Money'.

Same old BS so far. Big towns and major roads.

Show us the F*&$("g MONEY.
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Old 26-07-2016, 22:19
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I tell you what. It makes me bloody furious. It's a disgrace. If this was Japan, management of VO2 would have jumped from a high building several years ago.

Lyme Regis. Never mind us peasants down here in the South Hams. NO VO2 data coverage at all. Where are we? Like 15 years after Orange and Co started 3G to these places and seemed to have little problem getting it in place.

I don't care about what they say. How much money they say they are pumping in. Orange, Tmob and 3 got data rolled out pretty damned quickly and it pretty much worked in most places. Now VO2 are telling us that it all takes time. Bolloxx does it. It takes money and commitment.

Absolute waste of time, both of them. Just get it done. We are nearly 20 years on and Lyme Regis has no 3G on VO2. What an absolute frikkking farce.

I suspect that VO2 have NO intention of proper 4G coverage of the UK. They will, as history has proved, do the minimum to comply.

If they had never had the benefit of 900Mhz2G, both would have gone bust in the UK by now.
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Old 26-07-2016, 22:35
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And EE have left areas with no indoor coverage for years, such as where I live. Only O2 and Vodafone work. Swings and roundabouts.
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Old 26-07-2016, 22:42
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If only I was back in Lyme Regis- I had a great holiday there with my family earlier this month

Back on topic, as I have posted in another thread, I'm on Three and got usable 3G almost everywhere, although I rarely saw 4G however. My parents on O2, on the other hand, seemed to end up on 2G most of the time. At the lodge we were staying at in Cricket St Thomas, I could get 22 Mbps down, yet they were on EDGE. Masts for all networks were next door to the site.

Similarly, my Grandparents live in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire and both O2 and Vodafone are 2G only there. I get a good 3G connection on Three however (fast upstairs, a bit slow downstairs and no service in the kitchen) and EE have 4G. Depending on your network you're either in 1996 or 2016.

To be fair to them, I've been looking at the coverage maps lately and their 3G and 4G coverage is improving- even in areas it's not for EE in some cases. My Mum let me use her phone on the way home from Sherwood Pines back to Retford on Saturday to see what the signal was like and, to be fair to O2, I did get a fair amount of 4G and a bit of working 3G as well.

In Sherwood Pines itself the data didn't work, both on 2G and then on 3G once it switiched up to it- it appears to have been a 900 Mhz mast and I got 0.45 Mbps down even on full signal. BBC News wouldn't load at all. However, once we got on the main road, a 4G signal was found with 55 Mpbs down and 12 Mpbs up. EE don't even have 4G in the OIlerton area, so a clear win for O2 here. It dropped to 3G a little later and then to 2G and no service near Clumber Park, but picked up 4G again afterwards. There was then a bit more 2G as we got into Retford and it look a while for it to switch to 3G, but it did eventually and it seemed to be usable (I didn't do any more speed tests).

I found it disappointing that I couldn't get data to work on 2G at all, and that virtually unusable 2G mast was also poor. However, that fast 4G shows that they can perform well and I have to say, I was able to use the phone to access the internet for most of the journey, and the areas of poor or no coverage were more or less the same as on my Three phone.
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Old 26-07-2016, 22:52
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And EE have left areas with no indoor coverage for years, such as where I live. Only O2 and Vodafone work. Swings and roundabouts.
In some places. I agree. You can always pick out a few. I guess I am talking from a SW perspective where VO2 are still a joke. The funny thing is that I have a dual SIM phone. I have 3 kids off in all directions and my wife works so I need my phone to ring. That, in the SW means VO2. Still, to this day, your phone will ring in more places than EE/3.

But. I need a dual sim phone so that I can use data as well. I have a 3 SIM for that. Only because their 321 is seriously cheap. EE would be better.

The way I see it is that 3 have done this supervoice thing but it's not convincing as they just don't have the capacity but as soon as EE roll out 800, it will be the network of choice down here, no question if it isn't already. If you have a VOLTE phone it will be far superior to VO2 whatever. Your phone will not only ring in more places than VO2 (instantly cancelling that historic advantage), you will have fast data too.

The fact is that VO2 are not doing enough and not doing it fast enough. It's plain to see. They are still a joke in the South West and I for one have given them enough time.

VOD have had EDGE that DOESN'T WORK in Totnes for the last 10 years FFS. What are they smoking? It's not like it hasn't been reported. Read the VOD forum.

All O2 are doing down here is rolling out 3G900 with no backhaul so the map looks pretty.

Joke.
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Old 27-07-2016, 12:32
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Eastbournes Tesco mobile coverage as a whole is very very good.

So is the coverage in Haywards Heath, 4G+ is really quick. (commuter train town to London).
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Old 27-07-2016, 14:47
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Voda at my house in SE London is solid full bars DC-HSPA 20meg with 4G upstairs around 2 bars no faster than the half upgraded 3G gasometer across the road thou. however EE and 3 Are both no service or maybe one bar downstairs and 2 bars upstairs of 3G the occasional wif of 4G but not useable this is the same for at least 500m radius of my house. my Gf went and got her daughter a phone on 3 although i said only Voda works ..... half the time it goes straight to voicemail .
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Old 27-07-2016, 16:25
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Eastbournes Tesco mobile coverage as a whole is very very good.

So is the coverage in Haywards Heath, 4G+ is really quick. (commuter train town to London).
No good talking about Tesco Mobile. They are an MVNO, not a network. I've lost track of which network they actually use.
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Old 27-07-2016, 17:14
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No good talking about Tesco Mobile. They are an MVNO, not a network. I've lost track of which network they actually use.
They use o2 - pretty sure they always have.
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Old 28-07-2016, 11:51
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No good talking about Tesco Mobile. They are an MVNO, not a network. I've lost track of which network they actually use.
Surely it would be wise to finding out before answering then would it not?

I just find it strange that you're happy to state they are an MVNO but half bake your answer.

They have exclusively been using the O2 network from day 1.
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Old 29-12-2016, 12:50
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Vodafone and O2 are generally very much the same apart from the centres of top tier cities like London and one or two other high load areas. They both have areas of two carrier 4G (LTE-A/4G+) deployed. However, O2 has more coverage whereas Vodafone's has more capacity,
EE has by far the most 4G+ coverage and it has the most capacity. So if you want speed and consistently awesome urban performance, go EE.
4G+ Speed and coverage comparison Video

In terms of coverage, EE (and 3) primarily have used high frequencies which does restrict coverage indoors slightly. However, they have a higher density of masts to make up for this.
EE and 3 have low frequency 4G (800MHz) now to boost coverage in the hardest to reach areas. EE's should be gaining a massive power up soon to make EE's coverage absolutely incredible. Afterall, it has to be incredible for the Emergency Services network (ESN)
Hi has this picture changed since posting this. I have come to the end of my o2 contract on my Note 5 so looking comparing EE verses 02 in terms of 4G+ on say a Pixel XL and also useful facilities such as:
- visual voicemail which I don't currently have.
- good tethering data speeds when I am out and about.
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Old 29-12-2016, 12:53
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Hi has this picture changed since posting this. I have come to the end of my o2 contract on my Note 5 so looking comparing EE verses 02 in terms of 4G+ on say a Pixel XL and also useful facilities such as:
- visual voicemail which I don't currently have.
- good tethering data speeds when I am out and about.
Just go with EE.....

3CA deployed in major urban areas now and 800+1800CA from them soon I imagine. Plus very well targeted 1800+2600 etc.

o2 have 800+1800 and soon + 2100 but it's still only 20Mhz which is the equivalent of EE's 1800 only.

Have the Pixel XL, brilliant phone.
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