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What has Jason done?
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patsylimerick
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Any poll is irrelevant we are talking about in-house reaction here. Well I am at least. No he was more interested in stopping himself from being on the chopping block and evicted as he explained. So he got in there first! Simple as that. Pressed first.”

Well that's exactly my point. It IS as simple as that and he was SIMPLY faster than the other three. Not a master stroke or act of heroism or anything of the sort.
jp761
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Well that's exactly my point. It IS as simple as that and he was SIMPLY faster than the other three. Not a master stroke or act of heroism or anything of the sort.”

I know that part.

But the reaction towards HIM by the house in general.. He knew would be big. If he evicted Lateysha. He could have took the easy way out the easy option an evicted Jayne.
Vesna
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Any poll is irrelevant we are talking about in-house reaction here. Well I am at least. No he was more interested in stopping himself from being on the chopping block and evicted as he explained. So he got in there first! Simple as that. Pressed first.”

I disagree. He saw the money and thought I'll have that. It was all over his face.
The guy LOVES money, he owns a car that is between 118,000 to 200,000 pounds.
Can imagine the repair bills on that one. He also wants to win, that has been his focus the entire time.

If he had evicted Hughie it would have been more ballsy. Hughie was/is a contender to win. That came up in the poll as well. He didn't have any balls in his part in the poll. He kept it to Laura / Evelyn and Jayne.

Guess being the first to press is way more impressive to you than it is to me.
HIGHERSTATE
17-07-2016
He didnt stop the wheel..He broke the wheel.
jp761
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“I disagree. He saw the money and thought I'll have that. It was all over his face.
The guy LOVES money, he owns a car that is between 118,000 to 200,000 pounds.
Can imagine the repair bills on that one. He also wants to win, that has been his focus the entire time.

If he had evicted Hughie it would have been more ballsy. Hughie was/is a contender to win. That came up in the poll as well. He didn't have any balls in his part in the poll. He kept it to Laura / Evelyn and Jayne.

Guess being the first to press is way more impressive to you than it is to me.”

He worked for that car. The industry he's in pays well. Good for him.

Fine you can disagree though. No problem.

Hughie.. if he did that the reaction towards him in the house would have mainly come from Ryan. Also the majority the house had Lateysha down as the winner. Jason obviously knew that, because they've said it. The specific of his reaction speed I couldn't care less about. lol
trevor tiger
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Well of course it was! The whole week has been set up to cause shocks and arguments! Jeez...........

They offered them 20k - which was going to be removed anyway (v. important, that) and told them they'd have to evict someone to get it and ensure their own safety. It's not like Jason went around getting people to reevaluate Lateysha and influencing people to nominate her. Now THAT would have been impressive and I would have been leading the praise myself.”

OMG Obviously Annihilation week was to cause a stir but you seemed to be suggesting that a big character going was being specifically set up by producers Jeez

Did you watch the whole week? If you had you would have heard that Jason had been nominating Jayne and that the overall consensus was that Andy / Jayne / Jason would be going next. Therefore Jason, firstly understanding the importance of pressing the button because you're right the money was going to be removed if they didn't and yet over 50% of them didn't even bother mainly because they felt safe which leads me to secondly, and the great irony that Lateysha who felt safest of all was booted by Jason

I have no idea why you don't appreciate what happened. You don't have to think Jason is the greatest game player of all time or that he is interesting or like him even but not appreciating that this move turned the House on it's head and was a great BB moment is like trying too hard to negate things in my view.
rhizo_mania
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“I disagree. He saw the money and thought I'll have that. It was all over his face.
The guy LOVES money, he owns a car that is between 118,000 to 200,000 pounds.
Can imagine the repair bills on that one. He also wants to win, that has been his focus the entire time.

If he had evicted Hughie it would have been more ballsy. Hughie was/is a contender to win. That came up in the poll as well. He didn't have any balls in his part in the poll. He kept it to Laura / Evelyn and Jayne.

Guess being the first to press is way more impressive to you than it is to me.”


No that was Jackson he thought he had won the money, and stood there at the front with a grin on his face, until it was wiped off
Vesna
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by jp761:
“He worked for that car. The industry he's in pays well. Good for him.

Fine you can disagree though. No problem.

Hughie.. if he did that the reaction towards him in the house would have mainly come from Ryan. Also the majority the house had Lateysha down as the winner. Jason obviously knew that, because they've said it. The specific of his reaction speed I couldn't care less about. lol”

Wot Salon owner? ?

Worked for it or not means nothing to this discussion. Point is he did it for the money and didn't have the balls to admit it. He evicted Lateysha because she was his competition but he didn't have the balls to say that.
Vesna
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“No that was Jackson he thought he had won the money, and stood there at the front with a grin on his face, until it was wiped off ”

I don't know about Jackson I was watching Jason. Jackson I'm sure also pressed for the money as did Hughie and Laura.

Jackson often stands there with a grin on his face until it's wiped off. He did it tonight with Laura when he was trying to stop her from nominating him.
patsylimerick
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“OMG Obviously Annihilation week was to cause a stir but you seemed to be suggesting that a big character going was being specifically set up by producers Jeez

Did you watch the whole week? If you had you would have heard that Jason had been nominating Jayne and that the overall consensus was that Andy / Jayne / Jason would be going next. Therefore Jason, firstly understanding the importance of pressing the button because you're right the money was going to be removed if they didn't and yet over 50% of them didn't even bother mainly because they felt safe which leads me to secondly, and the great irony that Lateysha who felt safest of all was booted by Jason

I have no idea why you don't appreciate what happened. You don't have to think Jason is the greatest game player of all time or that he is interesting or like him even but not appreciating that this move turned the House on it's head and was a great BB moment is like trying too hard to negate things in my view.”

Well, because I don't think hms should be evicted other than by public vote - it will never qualify as a great BB moment for me. I think the whole idea of someone being evicted so unfairly being a 'great BB moment' is fairly distasteful, to be honest. I'd have been delighted if Lateysha was kicked out on her arse by the public. But she wasn't. At least Ryan was in the bottom three. The public had some say. That was also unfair though, in my view, as he may not have had the fewest votes.
jp761
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Wot Salon owner? ?

Worked for it or not means nothing to this discussion. Point is he did it for the money and didn't have the balls to admit it. He evicted Lateysha because she was his competition but he didn't have the balls to say that.”

Stuntman. No the point is I disagree with you. No need for me to repeat why again though.

Oh but he did say it, he said she had a big chance of winning. Like I said that was drummed into the other housemates. For some reason most of them thought she would win.
trevor tiger
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Well, because I don't think hms should be evicted other than by public vote - it will never qualify as a great BB moment for me. I think the whole idea of someone being evicted so unfairly being a 'great BB moment' is fairly distasteful, to be honest. I'd have been delighted if Lateysha was kicked out on her arse by the public. But she wasn't. At least Ryan was in the bottom three. The public had some say. That was also unfair though, in my view, as he may not have had the fewest votes.”

I see well I don't really care so maybe that is why we differ. To be fair though you seemed initially to be arguing that Jason wasn't much of a game player and were questioning why he was being so praised which is a very different argument to you thinking that BB has gone down a route that means you cannot admire what HMs are doing within that new route. Just to say though I think distasteful is a bit of a strong word to use to describe what I am calling a great BB moment. If you don't like the route that is being taken by BB then perhaps reserve words like that for the producers etc rather than for the likes of individual viewers.
Vicky8675309
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“No the point is it's no big whoop. He got to the button first and he evicted the person he was told the day before by bb's poll to evict. If he had balls he wouldn't have lied first about the money, he wanted the money. Then he lied about the reason, he never got on with her... something his minions used in the last one that saw Ryan out the door.

He evicted 'Tesha because BB told them she was going to win. I can totally see Jackson evicting "Tesha had he been first. They both really really really want to win. At least Jackson sometimes enjoys the experience as well. Jason never does. He's joyless.”

Originally Posted by Vesna:
“I disagree. He saw the money and thought I'll have that. It was all over his face.
The guy LOVES money, he owns a car that is between 118,000 to 200,000 pounds.
Can imagine the repair bills on that one. He also wants to win, that has been his focus the entire time.

If he had evicted Hughie it would have been more ballsy. Hughie was/is a contender to win. That came up in the poll as well. He didn't have any balls in his part in the poll. He kept it to Laura / Evelyn and Jayne.

Guess being the first to press is way more impressive to you than it is to me.”

Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Wot Salon owner? ?

Worked for it or not means nothing to this discussion. Point is he did it for the money and didn't have the balls to admit it. He evicted Lateysha because she was his competition but he didn't have the balls to say that.”

First several BIBs (all but the last BIB): how do you know that BB told him Lateysha was who the polls said was going to win? Did I miss or forget part of the show? If so then how was he also told Hughie was a contender to win (did they give the top 3 answers to each poll question)? I thought they just did most forgettable, biggest game player and least genuine. I don't think he needed a poll to know she was popular inside the house and outside the house. He knew she had power in the house (was influential with other HMs and had many twitter followers and exposure from a prior tv show she was on). Which brings me to the last BIB, he did say one of the reasons he evicted her was that she was a threat IIRC. She was a threat to him and a threat to everyone's chances of winning. He was brave to oust a house favorite and calmly deal with the hysterical fall out which I am sure he knew was going to happen.
Pro_Sniper
17-07-2016
Who's next on the Jasonator's hitlist!?

The whole X-lover situation bored me to tears..but I give Jason huge credit for destroying the "presumed winner". His brutal termination of "Teesh" was 1 of the most satisfying scenes I've ever witnessed in the history of BB. "Teesh" is the typical entitled BB "character" who clearly believe it's "their right" to coast along with an "untouchable" tag on their fake ass.. before "deservingly" winning it all. Done by A) getting the numbers by forming a tight "pack" inside the house..and B) playing up to the cams in the usual played out manner in which they know is received positively by moronic viewers; i.e. having ott meltdowns in the DR, pretending to be thick by using words in the wrong sense etc.. It really is pathetic. But that is the unfortunate monster that the majority of BB voters have reared. Any originality or true wit is now a rarity. "Annihilation Week" was enjoyable because it veered from the tedious familiarity which we've been bored with for years(even if only temporary)..it tested their BS "friendships"..exposed them and their BS vocal "principles"..and eventually ripped away the comfort of "pack" protection(playing only for the public) as it gave the outsiders/the underdogs the chance to strike before being struck. This is the path the producers should look to permanently move the game on to...
Lou17
17-07-2016
Nothing.......

Only this last week he's bothered to do more than just stare intensely.

I think Charlie was right about him.
Vesna
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“First several BIBs (all but the last BIB): how do you know that BB told him Lateysha was who the polls said was going to win? Did I miss or forget part of the show? If so then how was he also told Hughie was a contender to win (did they give the top 3 answers to each poll question)? I thought they just did most forgettable, biggest game player and least genuine. I don't think he needed a poll to know she was popular inside the house and outside the house. He knew she had power in the house (was influential with other HMs and had many twitter followers and exposure from a prior tv show she was on). Which brings me to the last BIB, he did say one of the reasons he evicted her was that she was a threat IIRC. She was a threat to him and a threat to everyone's chances of winning. He was brave to oust a house favorite and calmly deal with the hysterical fall out which I am sure he knew was going to happen.”

the poll said who was popular and who wasn't. They've know since the 2 nd or 3rd eviction that the public love Hughie because he got massive cheers. For some reason the hms put a lot of stock in the crowds reaction.

He also said a few vicious things that was just a way to get at her as if evicting her wasn't enough. For a guy who went off because someone said he had a daughter, his attack on Lateysha was petty and vindictive and not the reason. He had one reason, she was most likely to win. They all know she has a huge following, she made sure of that. It cost her her spot.
sheils1
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by jp761:
“I know that part.

But the reaction towards HIM by the house in general.. He knew would be big. If he evicted Lateysha. He could have took the easy way out the easy option an evicted Jayne.”

What i dont understand is why did they think Jayne was the easy option, she is no different to Layreasha, shes a housemate too and is entitled to be in the house just as much as Laytesha was.

So why was Jayne the easy option.
Vicky8675309
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“the poll said who was popular and who wasn't. They've know since the 2 nd or 3rd eviction that the public love Hughie because he got massive cheers. For some reason the hms put a lot of stock in the crowds reaction.

He also said a few vicious things that was just a way to get at her as if evicting her wasn't enough. For a guy who went off because someone said he had a daughter, his attack on Lateysha was petty and vindictive and not the reason. He had one reason, she was most likely to win. They all know she has a huge following, she made sure of that. It cost her her spot.”

I did the poll and know the questions. My question to you was how do you know that the HMs were told the poll results for all categories?
trevor tiger
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“What i dont understand is why did they think Jayne was the easy option, she is no different to Layreasha, shes a housemate too and is entitled to be in the house just as much as Laytesha was.

So why was Jayne the easy option.”

Because the majority including Jason had already picked her as the next evictee in the previous tasks. Jayne herself suggested she was the easy option and should have been picked I can see why she was an easy option but I am just glad Jason didn't pick an easy option
Vesna
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“I did the poll and know the questions. My question to you was how do you know that the HMs were told the poll results for all categories?”

Clearly you didn't read my entire response. It's in there no need for me to repeat it.
tilo430
17-07-2016
He is the Gary Busey of this series everyone thinks he can't win and so he will
sheils1
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Because the majority including Jason had already picked her as the next evictee in the previous tasks. Jayne herself suggested she was the easy option and should have been picked I can see why she was an easy option but I am just glad Jason didn't pick an easy option ”

Only half of them voted Jayne, the other half may not have wanted Jayne to go.
Vicky8675309
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Clearly you didn't read my entire response. It's in there no need for me to repeat it.”

you didn't answer my questions which were based off your comments which said:
"...he was told the day before by bb's poll to evict...."
and
"...He evicted 'Tesha because BB told them she was going to win...."

The BB poll did not tell him who to evict since they were just told the poll results of least genuine, most forgettable, and biggest game player. How do you know that BB told him Lateysha was going to win?
tilo430
17-07-2016
not sure why everyone hates a game player on a game show lol
jp761
17-07-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“What i dont understand is why did they think Jayne was the easy option, she is no different to Layreasha, shes a housemate too and is entitled to be in the house just as much as Laytesha was.

So why was Jayne the easy option.”

Easy, as in less comeback less fallout less out rage. Coming from housemates. Would have occurred towards the person who pressed and evicted.

I'm talking from an in-house perspective. I actually quite like Jayne as a housemate.

Andy would have been the other easiest option in this regard. Except he was immune obviously.
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