BB is a game show, he's supposed to be playing the game. It's not his fault the other HMs are too stupid to realise this and just want to have fun with their new bezzie mates.

Why should anyone have to admit anything on a forum where all views have equal merit?

BB is a game and they are all playing is, some better than others.

I'm not entirely sure he is some genius ruthless master game player and manipulator. Tbh I don't think he's sharpest knife in the drawer.

Far far too much has been made of this buzzer thing. He WAS at serious risk of going so needed to save himself. He had to pick someone. Lateysha was a logical choice for him. His reasons - she's strong and they didn't get on - were perfectly valid.

Logical. Not inspired genius. Not machiavellian ruthlessness. It just plain old made sense.

Imo he's neither manipulative game player (well, any more so than anyone else on a gameshow) OR hero.

In terms of measuring intelligence - Jason seems like a professor compared to those idiots he's in the house with. At least he's strategic with his moves, the others think they should be in the house because they are popular. silly dimwits.

precisely....everything is relative...Jason isn't Garry Kasparov....but he hasn't had to be to outsmart the collection of bozo's who sit alongside him on the couches....what he's had to do he's done extremely well and he's stood his ground in the face of unpopular decisions - while pocketing 20k and defeating the perceived winning gang....for a game show you cant ask for much more than that

wrong thread....

Totally agree. With Jason, he's honest in his reasoning for doing what he does. Someone like Jackson, on the other hand, plays the game by attempting to fool the public with fake crying and such.

All the above is based on my opinion, before anyone asks for proof that Jason's honest, or that Jackson's crying was fake 😉

Agree. I said on another thread that I give him kudos for his fast hand and not being as monumentally stupid as the others who would have wasted the opportunity - because that's all it was, an opportunity, not part of some ruthless masterplan - on the "easy option".

My left shoe is more capable of thinking and reasoning than most of that lot.


And while I'm on this, that's what pissed me off about the whole thing.

Jason made a logical and fairly good move in a game. Not personal.

They rudely and vocally made it clear Jayne should have gone. In front of her. And why? Because they didn't rate her as a person. That's VERY personal. And cruel.

So they can take a hike with their moral outrage at Jason.

They are horrible, dismissive people who think the people not in their gang don't matter.

Jason was playing a game. They have a very nasty mindset.



Woah. Think I've had too much coffee...

This is absolutely spot on.

Thanks. The extreme views on him are taking me to the fair tbh.

It really irks me that he's being vilified for this but I'm amazed at the amount of support this has got him - I thought it was a brilliant move myself but if he makes the final he could really win this.

I mean he's alright - i liked him a lot until he showed that huffy side with Laura and Evelyn and being up for nomination - but he's a very disappointing winner for me. Very disappointing.

Is anyone saying that though? I don't think many if any are tbh I think you are completely missing the point which seems to be the case with those trying to downplay Jason and his moves. Yes he simply pressed a buzzer quicker than others but he had the nouse to actually do so and considering the money was going to be taken from the prize fund and you could take charge of your future somewhat this was a highly sensible move and the majority just didn't seem to grasp this. Also after nominating Jayne throughout Annihilation week he changed to Lateysha against everyone including Jayne herself's wishes It created a great dramatic and highly enjoyable moment and I have no idea why people want to down play it

Actually it reminds me of the the arguments over Andy, if you say he is intelligent everyone goes he's not some great intellectual and if he shows some spark of intelligence everyone says he is smug and looking down on the others. With some HMs it is impossible to win

I may have missed the point. I miss many points.

Your first paragraph: that doesn't really differ from my take on it. It was a great move. I loved it. It gave us an amazing episode and what I wanted - herself gone.

I'm not actively trying to downplay it - I've no agenda against Jason. I've just seen it be said that he's a hero, worthy to win and on the other end he's a sly game player and Charlie was right, etc. I just happen to think he's neither of those things.

He made a brilliant move and gave us great TV - I appreciate that - but it's not enough for me to make him a winner. If it makes him a winner in others' eyes that's fair enough, just not for me. A difference of opinion is all.

You're right in hindsight our posts / points were similar

Still I haven't seen that much of people saying he is an amazing, great game player or master manipulator. I have seen people wanting him to win which seems fair enough. I mean why not He's as good if not better than most of the rest left in there and he did provide us with a great moment. I'm not saying I want him to win but I don't get why some (not you) are so against him winning.

I suppose I feel too much is being invested in trying to down play Jason and his move(s) when I haven't actually seen that many people say they were amazing. It seems out of proportion and ends up like a self fulfilling prophesy when those that like him end up almost having to big him up just to make a point.

TV is not what it used to be...

I watched The Chase the other day and the chaser was trying to catch up with the contestants. So I switched over and in Countdown they gave them a bloody time limit to make a word! Third time was a charm though and I thoroughly enjoyed The Eggheads

Snooker's usually good too, but sometimes they make it so the other player can't make a clear shot and it ruins the entire match

Yeah, I understand that.

I suppose I saw it differently - you see more posts downplaying it whereas I see more lauding him to the heavens but you may be right. My view could be skewed by the degree of support on the poll here and the fact he's now second favourite to win.

I can understand people wanting him to win, he's just a disappointing winner for me. But then I could take every one of them individually and say exactly the same thing.

There's no one I want to win. Best I can come up with is a list of HMs who, should they win, will make me throw my shoe at the TV. As much as I think Jason would be an anti - climactic winner he's not on that list.

If he wins I'll be a little disappointed but my shoes will remain on my feet and I'll make the most of it by laughing at Lateysha, Ryan et als thunderous faces.

Very funny. Jason will always be remembered as the winner that didn't make you want to throw your shoe at the TV

Re the BIB I actually think that is why people want him to win. A kind of shoe in the face of Lateysha, Ryan etc

He is, a game called Big Brother. I hope he keeps it up too.

There were too many dim housemates this year, although I am enjoying the show more since annihilation week began. We need housemates who use strategy, we need housemates who go to the diary room and analyse what is going on. We need one oddball housemate who is hilarious without intending to be (like Chelsea).

We don't need so many self-obsessed, stupid, screaming, attention-seeking wannabe "celebrities".

He's playing a game on a gameshow: that's what they're meant to do.

Good on him I say & long may it continue.

I'm not altogether against that. With Ryan would it be very unkind to hope it's a steel toecap boot?

I get that thinking but if I'm going down that road Jayne would be my winner. They were so rude to her. How dare they decide she didn't matter as much Lateysha? They were so dismissive of her - it would knock them for six if she won it.

Wee tinkers and Trevor T, love your posts (sorry I still don't know how to multi quote)

Also their behaviour towards Jayne beggars belief, but then so does her acceptance and agreement about Jason's decision. DIssappointed me a tad, if I'm honest.

Scarlett, I'm glad it's not just me who can't multi quote. The multi-quote button does jack for me. I asked the mod who welcomed me here about it. He didn't reply.

Thanks.

God yeah, Jayne really bugged me with that. My face was . She was like a flamin' nodding dog. I wanted to shake her.

But I've softened a bit on her. She was pathetic when it came to Lateysha and that lot but maybe she felt that's what she had to do in there to fit in. She did get off to an awful start in there. I'm letting it go but it was bonkers.

I feel your pain Billy lad Pair of eejets together x

I'm so with you on Jayne...I've never actively disliked her, whilst, apart from Jason and perhaps Andy, I have (sadly) loathed all the rest. I'm not even joking, the look and sound of Sam makes me retch

There is a place in hell for Ryan ,Lateysha and if Hughie doesn't shut the hell up he can join them