I don't understand what's about to happen next week - Ben dies?!?!?!!?
Is this actually for real, or is this Paul's exit storyline and there's a mix up?
Is this actually for real, or is this Paul's exit storyline and there's a mix up?
Eastenders next week (Spoiler alert)
I think it's definitely Pauls exit, but they kept us in the dark by now it is that Ben is "dead"
Either way that happy young couple who walked down the street hand in hand on Friday, have had something terrible befall them.
My guess it's a gay bashing and one or the other has been fatally wounded.
Either way that happy young couple who walked down the street hand in hand on Friday, have had something terrible befall them.
My guess it's a gay bashing and one or the other has been fatally wounded.
It might help if you take look through this thread:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2165394
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2165394
there is no way Ben is being killed off, there is also no way he is becoming an undertaker, unless its some random dude who dies, its Paul who dies.
Re-watching, it's definitely going to be Paul who has died. Why else would they have got each other's names tattooed? They'll for some ludicrous reason assume Paul is Ben, thinking the tattoo is HIS name instead.
Originally Posted by Keibro:
“Either way that happy young couple who walked down the street hand in hand on Friday, have had something terrible befall them.
My guess it's a gay bashing and one or the other has been fatally wounded.”
“Either way that happy young couple who walked down the street hand in hand on Friday, have had something terrible befall them.
My guess it's a gay bashing and one or the other has been fatally wounded.”
The way you've worded that makes me sad.
So I'm assuming that moment was the last time we'll see the two together on screen?
Originally Posted by Ben_Hunt:
“Re-watching, it's definitely going to be Paul who has died. Why else would they have got each other's names tattooed? They'll for some ludicrous reason assume Paul is Ben, thinking the tattoo is HIS name instead.”
“Re-watching, it's definitely going to be Paul who has died. Why else would they have got each other's names tattooed? They'll for some ludicrous reason assume Paul is Ben, thinking the tattoo is HIS name instead.”
I think you've hit the nail on the head here. This is going to be a hard week to watch.
Could both die? Maybe it is a case of mistaken identity, and then Ben actually does die. Ben dying would open it up with Phil getting a new liver, Kathy not being there when died, the eventual return of Grant, would give Louise more screen time, and could be how Jay is reunited with the family. could it be a way to Spring a surprise twist on viewers, by revealing that Ben was dying, they knew people would assume straight away it was Paul. Then throw the second tragedy of having Ben die as well. Either way i think it's going to be quite sad, especially with Pam having to live with the fact that Paul died not having the chance to meet his mum.
Photos show that a happy Roxy has a date with Andy on Friday and I doubt she'd do that if Ben died the same week.
Only Ben brought his wallet (with his ID) so it's most likely going to be a mix up and Paul is dead. Unfortunately I think the event occurs offscreen and Ben doesn't tell the whole story to his family about what happened.
Only Ben brought his wallet (with his ID) so it's most likely going to be a mix up and Paul is dead. Unfortunately I think the event occurs offscreen and Ben doesn't tell the whole story to his family about what happened.
I think Paul will die & they will think its Ben at first but then it turns out to be Paul.
The family are elated & relieved for a few moments but then realise that if it is Paul then where is Ben & I'm sure they'll be upset about Paul as well. I think Ben could be missing for a while & they are frantically trying to find him. Phil & Kathy are panicking and imagining all manner of horrific things that might have happened to him, is he lying dead in a ditch somewhere etc?
This could bring them together or it could make them turn on each other like never before. Phil blaming Kathy because he works out she was with Buster, will it come out to Shirley in the heat of the moment? I hope Ben being missing or his loved ones thinking he has died will be an opportunity for some classic scenes between some legendary characters. I hope it won't just be a load of rubbish like Gavin week! They've got an amazing chance here so please god they don't balls it up!
I think Ben will turn up eventually though & probably this week but it would be a good storyline if he was missing for a while though (not for too long though because Ben is a good character). It'll keep us guessing what's happened to him & keep the show interesting.
The family are elated & relieved for a few moments but then realise that if it is Paul then where is Ben & I'm sure they'll be upset about Paul as well. I think Ben could be missing for a while & they are frantically trying to find him. Phil & Kathy are panicking and imagining all manner of horrific things that might have happened to him, is he lying dead in a ditch somewhere etc?
This could bring them together or it could make them turn on each other like never before. Phil blaming Kathy because he works out she was with Buster, will it come out to Shirley in the heat of the moment? I hope Ben being missing or his loved ones thinking he has died will be an opportunity for some classic scenes between some legendary characters. I hope it won't just be a load of rubbish like Gavin week! They've got an amazing chance here so please god they don't balls it up!
I think Ben will turn up eventually though & probably this week but it would be a good storyline if he was missing for a while though (not for too long though because Ben is a good character). It'll keep us guessing what's happened to him & keep the show interesting.
Could it be that the body is beaten beyond recognition and only identification is the wallet, but when Phil/Ian/Kathy go to identify they see the tattoo and realise it's Paul not Ben?
Originally Posted by Emma_Slaughter:
“Could it be that the body is beaten beyond recognition and only identification is the wallet, but when Phil/Ian/Kathy go to identify they see the tattoo and realise it's Paul not Ben?”
“Could it be that the body is beaten beyond recognition and only identification is the wallet, but when Phil/Ian/Kathy go to identify they see the tattoo and realise it's Paul not Ben?”
The hair (and hairband which seems to surgically attached to his hair) would be a giveaway.
The preview for tonight's episode may be a hint: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/arti...-and-catch-ups
But weirdly, on 28th August there is an episode with a limited cast list including Phil, Jay and Billy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07md4rz
Paul and Ben aren't on any cast lists after this week. Perhaps Ben is missing after the incident and Phil worries that he is dead too.
But weirdly, on 28th August there is an episode with a limited cast list including Phil, Jay and Billy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07md4rz
Paul and Ben aren't on any cast lists after this week. Perhaps Ben is missing after the incident and Phil worries that he is dead too.
"The young man, whose phone we found the contact number"...
They're just assuming its Ben (probably because it was Ben's phone) - but it doesn't mean that Ben is dead.
But it also means that the hospital never tells them that Ben has died, but that it is an assumption.
They're just assuming its Ben (probably because it was Ben's phone) - but it doesn't mean that Ben is dead.
Spoiler
But it also means that the hospital never tells them that Ben has died, but that it is an assumption.
Originally Posted by vaslav37:
“It's looking like Ben really does die!”
“It's looking like Ben really does die!”
See the only thing that's stopping me from thinking it's Ben is because he's a legacy character (and a pretty big one at that) so surely they would've kept it under wraps? Eastenders do like their surprises!
Originally Posted by lollipop1995:
“See the only thing that's stopping me from thinking it's Ben is because he's a legacy character (and a pretty big one at that) so surely they would've kept it under wraps? Eastenders do like their surprises!”
“See the only thing that's stopping me from thinking it's Ben is because he's a legacy character (and a pretty big one at that) so surely they would've kept it under wraps? Eastenders do like their surprises!”
I suppose you could argue they didn't keep Lucy's death under wraps. Though they made a much, much bigger thing about her death. Ben's has been chucked out like it's a regular spoiler, which almost certainly means they're hiding something. The biggest giveaway of course is that Paul hasn't been mentioned in any of it.
Originally Posted by EE.Live:
“The preview for tonight's episode may be a hint: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/arti...-and-catch-ups
But weirdly, on 28th August there is an episode with a limited cast list including Phil, Jay and Billy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07md4rz
Paul and Ben aren't on any cast lists after this week. Perhaps Ben is missing after the incident and Phil worries that he is dead too.”
“The preview for tonight's episode may be a hint: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/arti...-and-catch-ups
But weirdly, on 28th August there is an episode with a limited cast list including Phil, Jay and Billy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07md4rz
Paul and Ben aren't on any cast lists after this week. Perhaps Ben is missing after the incident and Phil worries that he is dead too.”
If the writers wish to keep the misdirection going, then they will not want either actor to appear on the later cast lists!
I really wish that they had not announced any of this storyline. The more they release the more obvious it is that it is Paul and not Ben who dies. I rather think that their attempt at misdirection has been a failure as almost everyone who has seen the 'spoliers' has figured out what happened. Yes it may be a shock for those who aren't privy to spoilers but alas even then I think that last weeks episodes and the preview clip are about as subtle as a sledgehammers. And as for the 'spoilers' for the rest of this weeks episodes their attempt to lead us up the garden path are laughable given what we already know.
Remember when Denise apparently 'DIED'? I think the same thing is possibly going to happen to Ben.
However neither Ben or Paul are credited after this week.
However neither Ben or Paul are credited after this week.
Originally Posted by ArthurJBear:
“I really wish that they had not announced any of this storyline. The more they release the more obvious it is that it is Paul and not Ben who dies. I rather think that their attempt at misdirection has been a failure as almost everyone who has seen the 'spoliers' has figured out what happened. Yes it may be a shock for those who aren't privy to spoilers but alas even then I think that last weeks episodes and the preview clip are about as subtle as a sledgehammers. And as for the 'spoilers' for the rest of this weeks episodes their attempt to lead us up the garden path are laughable given what we already know.”
“I really wish that they had not announced any of this storyline. The more they release the more obvious it is that it is Paul and not Ben who dies. I rather think that their attempt at misdirection has been a failure as almost everyone who has seen the 'spoliers' has figured out what happened. Yes it may be a shock for those who aren't privy to spoilers but alas even then I think that last weeks episodes and the preview clip are about as subtle as a sledgehammers. And as for the 'spoilers' for the rest of this weeks episodes their attempt to lead us up the garden path are laughable given what we already know.”
Agreed. They kept Margeret's death a secret but not Paul's!?
I think that spoilers should've been vague about what happened. Maybe they could've implied that 'Ben' had been severely hurt and was taken to hospital (even though we would know it was Paul, we wouldn't know that it was life threatening and that he dies as a result)
It really is typical though as soon as people start warming to Ben and Paul as a couple that they decide to kill one of them off They were beginning to get interesting and they had great chemistry too, which wasn't apparent at first
They were beginning to get interesting and they had great chemistry too, which wasn't apparent at first
BBC has been know to cheat - or rather leave some out - in the cast list. E.g. Emma - Max's old girlfriend - she stayed on in the cast list for nearly a week despite having died. Actually, shes not dead at all, saw her twice - entering / leaving the studios in Borehamwood - April 2015.
Originally Posted by Bcph:
“BBC has been know to cheat - or rather leave some out - in the cast list. E.g. Emma - Max's old girlfriend - she stayed on in the cast list for nearly a week despite having died. Actually, shes not dead at all, saw her twice - entering / leaving the studios in Borehamwood - April 2015.”
“BBC has been know to cheat - or rather leave some out - in the cast list. E.g. Emma - Max's old girlfriend - she stayed on in the cast list for nearly a week despite having died. Actually, shes not dead at all, saw her twice - entering / leaving the studios in Borehamwood - April 2015.”
Returning from the dead
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...ve-rehearsals/
Originally Posted by EE.Live:
“Returning from the dead
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...ve-rehearsals/”
“Returning from the dead
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...ve-rehearsals/”
omg - didnt know - the day I saw her must have been - let me see/check the photos - Monday 20th April - she arrived, on foot, around noon and came back out - and left - also on foot - just under an hour later. This was of course by the entrance on Clarendon Rd - not somewhere in London.
