It's a semi-scripted reality show meets gameshow with mostly hired actors, models & professional reality tv zelebs.
Big Brother Is Not A Game Show
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The housemates are competitors, competing against each to be the last person standing in the house and win the prize. Whether that be by being the nicest, most entertaining, most devious or any other way the housemates choose to compete as long it's within the BB defined rules.
That sure sounds like a game show to me. And it's been that way since day 1 of series 1.
Anything where people compete against others to win is a competition, and not a reality show.
That sure sounds like a game show to me. And it's been that way since day 1 of series 1.
Anything where people compete against others to win is a competition, and not a reality show.
For those who don't like the term Game Show .. I suggest Competitive Reality Show.
From my personal perspective any tv program with a prize is a ultimately game show though.
From my personal perspective any tv program with a prize is a ultimately game show though.
Originally Posted by Vault:
“I've started to watch BBUS and i am finding it far more interesting than our version (UK)”
“I've started to watch BBUS and i am finding it far more interesting than our version (UK)”
I agree BB:USA is a better format with much higher production values.
Originally Posted by Vault:
“I've started to watch BBUS and i am finding it far more interesting than our version (UK)”
“I've started to watch BBUS and i am finding it far more interesting than our version (UK)”
The US version is WAY WAY superior to our version with great tactical play, MUCH better tasks, HOH competition, POV competition, getting people out via the backdoor. And if you screw anyone over and they end up at the jury house, you have done yourself no favours.
The Canadian and Australian versions are also much better than the drivel we are given here.
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“It's been a game show for years, it's no longer a social experiment.
It's only till now that someone is actually playing the game as it is meant to be played. Jason broke the taboo of playing the game and if there is any more Civilian BB after this series, there will be a lot more HMs who'll openly playing the game.
Grats Jason 👏👏👏👏👏”
“It's been a game show for years, it's no longer a social experiment.
It's only till now that someone is actually playing the game as it is meant to be played. Jason broke the taboo of playing the game and if there is any more Civilian BB after this series, there will be a lot more HMs who'll openly playing the game.
Grats Jason 👏👏👏👏👏”
What do you mean, "as it's meant to be played"?
This isn't the US version!
Originally Posted by Dante Ameche:
“If people say something for long enough and it get's into the public psyche, people will start believing it.
It's not a game show but most of you that have posted think it is which proves my point.
What are the rules for the game?
Having a gameplan can be a good and a bad thing.
If they took the prize fund away with the winner only getting a pat of the back, would it still be a gameshow ?”
“If people say something for long enough and it get's into the public psyche, people will start believing it.
It's not a game show but most of you that have posted think it is which proves my point.
What are the rules for the game?
Having a gameplan can be a good and a bad thing.
If they took the prize fund away with the winner only getting a pat of the back, would it still be a gameshow ?”
Perhaps that's become less clear since the move to C5?
The rules used to be explicitly stated and available online. (Basicaly, the only game element is that HMs nominate.)
Of course it's a game show. With one winner. The sole purpose of BB is to entertain the masses. Always has been. Yes, even in the 'good old days'
Originally Posted by mellick:
“The US version is WAY WAY superior to our version with great tactical play, MUCH better tasks, HOH competition, POV competition, getting people out via the backdoor. And if you screw anyone over and they end up at the jury house, you have done yourself no favours.
The Canadian and Australian versions are also much better than the drivel we are given here.”
“The US version is WAY WAY superior to our version with great tactical play, MUCH better tasks, HOH competition, POV competition, getting people out via the backdoor. And if you screw anyone over and they end up at the jury house, you have done yourself no favours.
The Canadian and Australian versions are also much better than the drivel we are given here.”
The only reason (IMO) the UK version has become drivel is because of the 'players' put in the house.....they are just 'wannabes' with not much life experience except 'wanting to be famous for little or nothing'.
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“The only reason (IMO) the UK version has become drivel is because of the 'players' put in the house.....they are just 'wannabes' with not much life experience except 'wanting to be famous for little or nothing'.”
“The only reason (IMO) the UK version has become drivel is because of the 'players' put in the house.....they are just 'wannabes' with not much life experience except 'wanting to be famous for little or nothing'.”
That is one reason.
The tasks being crap is another ( more fish guts or electric shock suits)
All tasks being geared towards causing conflict and little else, is yet another
The lack of any authority from BB - e.g. break out and stay out, is a major one
The constant messing around with nominations is just one more major one
I could go on and on
Originally Posted by mellick:
“That is one reason.
The tasks being crap is another ( more fish guts or electric shock suits)
All tasks being geared towards causing conflict and little else, is yet another
The lack of any authority from BB - e.g. break out and stay out, is a major one
The constant messing around with nominations is just one more major one
I could go on and on”
“That is one reason.
The tasks being crap is another ( more fish guts or electric shock suits)
All tasks being geared towards causing conflict and little else, is yet another
The lack of any authority from BB - e.g. break out and stay out, is a major one
The constant messing around with nominations is just one more major one
I could go on and on”
I agree, with all those reasons as well...
BOTS is a gameshow though right? It even has a Coiffure with teeth dancing down a sparkling staircase at the start.
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“BOTS is a gameshow though right? It even has a Coiffure with teeth dancing down a sparkling staircase at the start.”
“BOTS is a gameshow though right? It even has a Coiffure with teeth dancing down a sparkling staircase at the start.”
There's no prize for BOTS just 30 mins of your life you'll never get back.
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“There's no prize for BOTS just 30 mins of your life you'll never get back.”
“There's no prize for BOTS just 30 mins of your life you'll never get back.”
No prize? Your acting as if the 'Rylan Silver Fangs' trophy is just some kind of a joke.
Originally Posted by Dante Ameche:
“If people say something for long enough and it get's into the public psyche, people will start believing it.
It's not a game show but most of you that have posted think it is which proves my point.
What are the rules for the game?
Having a gameplan can be a good and a bad thing.
If they took the prize fund away with the winner only getting a pat of the back, would it still be a gameshow ?”
“If people say something for long enough and it get's into the public psyche, people will start believing it.
It's not a game show but most of you that have posted think it is which proves my point.
What are the rules for the game?
Having a gameplan can be a good and a bad thing.
If they took the prize fund away with the winner only getting a pat of the back, would it still be a gameshow ?”
Wait, so it's not a gameshow because YOU think it's not, yet most people on this thread disagree and you think that's because it's "in the the public psyche"? Sounds like you think everyone else has been brainwashed and you're the only one who can see it for what it is?
How about this? Most people think it's a gameshow because
1. It has contestants
2. It has rules. They may be a bit wishy-washy since C5 got their hands on it, but they are there.
3.There is a prize fund.
4. Contestants are eliminated round by round. Not always in the same manner, but fundamentally we lose players.
5.There is a winner. Emma will declare that someone has won and they will win a prize.
"Border Control", "Benefit Street",I would class this as reality shows, TOWIE, Geordie Shore etc constructed reality and BB a gameshow, unrecognisable from the original concept but still a gameshow.
Originally Posted by johnan:
“I think she /they chanted that as they were called to nominate because to them it was most definitely a popularity contest where not being yourself was frowned upon, so "game playing" was not really acceptable.
Chanting "it is only a game show" was just to lighten the nomination process and disguise the fact that some of them were not very popular with the others.
That doesn't matter if your "playing the game" now as you have probably adopted a fake personna, and it is that personna that is not popular, not the real person.
In those days it was the real person being voted as being unpopular, which is hard to hide from, and made the real BB so interesting compared to this present incarnation.”
“I think she /they chanted that as they were called to nominate because to them it was most definitely a popularity contest where not being yourself was frowned upon, so "game playing" was not really acceptable.
Chanting "it is only a game show" was just to lighten the nomination process and disguise the fact that some of them were not very popular with the others.
That doesn't matter if your "playing the game" now as you have probably adopted a fake personna, and it is that personna that is not popular, not the real person.
In those days it was the real person being voted as being unpopular, which is hard to hide from, and made the real BB so interesting compared to this present incarnation.”
The idea that someone playing the game somehow isn't true to themselves is strange to me. If someone wants to be liked most likely they are being very true. Big Brother is not a normal situation.
Originally Posted by mellick:
“The US version is WAY WAY superior to our version with great tactical play, MUCH better tasks, HOH competition, POV competition, getting people out via the backdoor. And if you screw anyone over and they end up at the jury house, you have done yourself no favours.
The Canadian and Australian versions are also much better than the drivel we are given here.”
“The US version is WAY WAY superior to our version with great tactical play, MUCH better tasks, HOH competition, POV competition, getting people out via the backdoor. And if you screw anyone over and they end up at the jury house, you have done yourself no favours.
The Canadian and Australian versions are also much better than the drivel we are given here.”
The US version has very very safe and boring tactical play most of the time, it's no Survivor. Pretty much like here once you're on the bottom that's it. The evictions are a damp squib normally, where it isn't close and nearly everybody knows what will happen before it does. And the DRs can be literally scripted.
The best part of it are the competitions (when they aren't just random luck), but they don't even show quite a few of them live. And seeing them several days later just isn't the same.
Originally Posted by BlondeGremlin:
“Wait, so it's not a gameshow because YOU think it's not, yet most people on this thread disagree and you think that's because it's "in the the public psyche"? Sounds like you think everyone else has been brainwashed and you're the only one who can see it for what it is?
How about this? Most people think it's a gameshow because
1. It has contestants
2. It has rules. They may be a bit wishy-washy since C5 got their hands on it, but they are there.
3.There is a prize fund.
4. Contestants are eliminated round by round. Not always in the same manner, but fundamentally we lose players.
5.There is a winner. Emma will declare that someone has won and they will win a prize.
"Border Control", "Benefit Street",I would class this as reality shows, TOWIE, Geordie Shore etc constructed reality and BB a gameshow, unrecognisable from the original concept but still a gameshow.”
“Wait, so it's not a gameshow because YOU think it's not, yet most people on this thread disagree and you think that's because it's "in the the public psyche"? Sounds like you think everyone else has been brainwashed and you're the only one who can see it for what it is?
How about this? Most people think it's a gameshow because
1. It has contestants
2. It has rules. They may be a bit wishy-washy since C5 got their hands on it, but they are there.
3.There is a prize fund.
4. Contestants are eliminated round by round. Not always in the same manner, but fundamentally we lose players.
5.There is a winner. Emma will declare that someone has won and they will win a prize.
"Border Control", "Benefit Street",I would class this as reality shows, TOWIE, Geordie Shore etc constructed reality and BB a gameshow, unrecognisable from the original concept but still a gameshow.”
Despite the "majority" not agreeing with me, yes, I still don't see it as a game show.
I couldn't stand Nadia from day one and she just got worse as BB5 went on. I was in the minority on here back then. It wasn't until she was in the Ultimate/champions/or whatever it was called, version that a lot of those people that loved her and voted her the winner, began to see her the same way I always did.
Slightly relevant I know but I've rarely been one to be part of the majority
Originally Posted by benbeez1:
“a scripted reality show with game show elements
this is not BB 
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“a scripted reality show with game show elements
this is not BB ”
BB has always been a structured reality show at hart... the housemates are profile chosen, they are given tasks that those profiles are likely to react to in a way that was expect of them... no tv is ad hoc... bb has never been left to chance
It's a gameshow, and it's not the winners prize fund, anyone can win cash through the show, bb can take money away as part of a task.
Favorite winner so far,Connor he won half the prize fund with out even doing the full stretch.
Favorite winner so far,Connor he won half the prize fund with out even doing the full stretch.
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