It's been a game show from the start.
Big Brother Is Not A Game Show
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Originally Posted by Woodbine:
“Maybe it is a game show now, but I still don't really think of if as that. Reason why I watch this every now again is to watch people interacting with each other and seeing the tasks.”
“Maybe it is a game show now, but I still don't really think of if as that. Reason why I watch this every now again is to watch people interacting with each other and seeing the tasks.”
Whereas I go and make a cup of tea when the task is on.
Originally Posted by Dante Ameche:
“If people say something for long enough and it get's into the public psyche, people will start believing it.
It's not a game show but most of you that have posted think it is which proves my point.
What are the rules for the game?
Having a gameplan can be a good and a bad thing.
If they took the prize fund away with the winner only getting a pat of the back, would it still be a gameshow ?”
“If people say something for long enough and it get's into the public psyche, people will start believing it.
It's not a game show but most of you that have posted think it is which proves my point.
What are the rules for the game?
Having a gameplan can be a good and a bad thing.
If they took the prize fund away with the winner only getting a pat of the back, would it still be a gameshow ?”
It works for CBB.
Originally Posted by Dante Ameche:
“If people say something for long enough and it get's into the public psyche, people will start believing it.
It's not a game show but most of you that have posted think it is which proves my point.
What are the rules for the game?
Having a gameplan can be a good and a bad thing.
If they took the prize fund away with the winner only getting a pat of the back, would it still be a gameshow ?”
“If people say something for long enough and it get's into the public psyche, people will start believing it.
It's not a game show but most of you that have posted think it is which proves my point.
What are the rules for the game?
Having a gameplan can be a good and a bad thing.
If they took the prize fund away with the winner only getting a pat of the back, would it still be a gameshow ?”
It's not actually been pushed as being a gameshow at all, so that completely blows up your arguments straight away. People don't go around calling it a gameshow normally, but it is a competitive reality gameshow.
The rules of the game are about not being evicted and being the last standing.
Having a gameplan is an essential thing. Those that may not have had one like George or Dawn in the past don't last long. The main thing with gameplans is some have a good gameplan and some not that good, also some gameplans go with the story the producers want and will be favoured by them.
It's still a gameshow while there's a winner at the end of it, with any of the acclaim that brings.
It's not a fair gameshow but it is one. You just have a very limited, pre-21st century view of that kind of entertainment on TV.
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
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It works for CBB.”
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It works for CBB.”
It may work for CBB, but without a prize, is CBB still a game show?
Originally Posted by starry:
“It's not actually been pushed as being a gameshow at all, so that completely blows up your arguments straight away. People don't go around calling it a gameshow normally, but it is a competitive reality gameshow.”
“It's not actually been pushed as being a gameshow at all, so that completely blows up your arguments straight away. People don't go around calling it a gameshow normally, but it is a competitive reality gameshow.”
It is very often called a game show in this forum and by the presenters.
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“The rules of the game are about not being evicted and being the last standing.
Having a gameplan is an essential thing. Those that may not have had one like George or Dawn in the past don't last long. The main thing with gameplans is some have a good gameplan and some not that good, also some gameplans go with the story the producers want and will be favoured by them.
It's still a gameshow while there's a winner at the end of it, with any of the acclaim that brings.
It's not a fair gameshow but it is one. You just have a very limited, pre-21st century view of that kind of entertainment on TV.”
“The rules of the game are about not being evicted and being the last standing.
Having a gameplan is an essential thing. Those that may not have had one like George or Dawn in the past don't last long. The main thing with gameplans is some have a good gameplan and some not that good, also some gameplans go with the story the producers want and will be favoured by them.
It's still a gameshow while there's a winner at the end of it, with any of the acclaim that brings.
It's not a fair gameshow but it is one. You just have a very limited, pre-21st century view of that kind of entertainment on TV.”
"Not being evicted and being the last standing" is not the rules of the game; it's a goal contestants may have.
The rules of the game are things like the ones that forbid discussing nominations.
Having a gameplan is not essential, and (not being mind-readers) we're not in a position to know in many cases whether a HM had a gameplan or not. We certainly can't conclude that "those that may not have had one ... in the past don't last long."
(I don't buy the sometimes popular idea that every HM must have a gameplan because not having a gameplan is a gameplan. If we go that way, the term becomes useless.)
What do you think shows Dante Ameche has "a very limited, pre-21st century view of that kind of entertainment on TV"?
Originally Posted by Veri:
“It may work for CBB, but without a prize, is CBB still a game show?”
“It may work for CBB, but without a prize, is CBB still a game show?”
In my opinion .. Yes.
The prize in this instance being more work from C5 and other media outlets.
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“In my opinion .. Yes.
The prize in this instance being more work from C5 and other media outlets.”
“In my opinion .. Yes.
The prize in this instance being more work from C5 and other media outlets.”
But by that logic, most shows on tv could be "game shows" since appearing on them could lead to more work. Also, the more-work "prize" from CBB doesn't go only to the winner and might not even go to the winner at all.
I think the prize has to be part of the show and not some external effect.
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Games have rules. BB doesn't.”
“Games have rules. BB doesn't.”
Of course it's a game show!
And of course it has rules!
No division of nominations. Nominating two people each week. No outside contact. The aim of the game is to be the last man standing.
I think yon view it as both. People who go on it can either be themselves and have fun or play the game. If I was going in (which I will never do) I wouldn't think of it as a game show, just for the experience and have fun.
Originally Posted by Dante Ameche:
“Well, it isn't. It's a reality show
Just because there is a cash prize for the winner, doesn't make it a game show.
Deal or no deal isn't a quiz show but some people seem to think that it is.
The HMs can play a game, be sly, manipulative, lie, cheat, act dumb etc in order get their hands on the prize but that doesn't make it a game show.
It's as ridiculous as people saying up for nomination”
“Well, it isn't. It's a reality show
Just because there is a cash prize for the winner, doesn't make it a game show.
Deal or no deal isn't a quiz show but some people seem to think that it is.
The HMs can play a game, be sly, manipulative, lie, cheat, act dumb etc in order get their hands on the prize but that doesn't make it a game show.
It's as ridiculous as people saying up for nomination”
I remember the very first BB. It started out as a social experiment and was billed as a game show. Over the years it has sadly morphed into what it is today. More of a scripted reality game show.
Big Brother has always been a game show primarily for me, right from the very beginning. "Reality" has always been a loose term for me as the situation - locked away from the outside World with a group of complete strangers with cameras everywhere - is not representarive of real life.
Originally Posted by Dante Ameche:
“Despite the "majority" not agreeing with me, yes, I still don't see it as a game show.
I couldn't stand Nadia from day one and she just got worse as BB5 went on. I was in the minority on here back then. It wasn't until she was in the Ultimate/champions/or whatever it was called, version that a lot of those people that loved her and voted her the winner, began to see her the same way I always did.
Slightly relevant I know but I've rarely been one to be part of the majority”
“Despite the "majority" not agreeing with me, yes, I still don't see it as a game show.
I couldn't stand Nadia from day one and she just got worse as BB5 went on. I was in the minority on here back then. It wasn't until she was in the Ultimate/champions/or whatever it was called, version that a lot of those people that loved her and voted her the winner, began to see her the same way I always did.
Slightly relevant I know but I've rarely been one to be part of the majority”
Well fair enough but as you say not really relevant to the point you or I were making.
You do not view BB as a gameshow, others do - not because it's been put into the public psyche, but for the many reasons stated in this thread. It's a difference of opinion, but yours is not necessarily any more valid than the opposing one and those who do not agree with yours are not all sheep going along with what everyone else thinks.
Originally Posted by starry:
“It's not actually been pushed as being a gameshow at all, so that completely blows up your arguments straight away. People don't go around calling it a gameshow normally, but it is a competitive reality gameshow.
The rules of the game are about not being evicted and being the last standing.
Having a gameplan is an essential thing. Those that may not have had one like George or Dawn in the past don't last long. The main thing with gameplans is some have a good gameplan and some not that good, also some gameplans go with the story the producers want and will be favoured by them.
It's still a gameshow while there's a winner at the end of it, with any of the acclaim that brings.
It's not a fair gameshow but it is one. You just have a very limited, pre-21st century view of that kind of entertainment on TV.”
“It's not actually been pushed as being a gameshow at all, so that completely blows up your arguments straight away. People don't go around calling it a gameshow normally, but it is a competitive reality gameshow.
The rules of the game are about not being evicted and being the last standing.
Having a gameplan is an essential thing. Those that may not have had one like George or Dawn in the past don't last long. The main thing with gameplans is some have a good gameplan and some not that good, also some gameplans go with the story the producers want and will be favoured by them.
It's still a gameshow while there's a winner at the end of it, with any of the acclaim that brings.
It's not a fair gameshow but it is one. You just have a very limited, pre-21st century view of that kind of entertainment on TV.”
Thanks for your contribution.
Could you expand on my limited pre 21st century view of this kind of entertainment please?
Originally Posted by BlondeGremlin:
“Well fair enough but as you say not really relevant to the point you or I were making.
You do not view BB as a gameshow, others do - not because it's been put into the public psyche, but for the many reasons stated in this thread. It's a difference of opinion, but yours is not necessarily any more valid than the opposing one and those who do not agree with yours are not all sheep going along with what everyone else thinks.”
“Well fair enough but as you say not really relevant to the point you or I were making.
You do not view BB as a gameshow, others do - not because it's been put into the public psyche, but for the many reasons stated in this thread. It's a difference of opinion, but yours is not necessarily any more valid than the opposing one and those who do not agree with yours are not all sheep going along with what everyone else thinks.”
Valid points you make, can't disagree apart from the sheep bit
I'm not saying anyone that has posted is sheep like though.
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