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When EE ruled soaps
Watching a programme on C5 called
20 moments that rocked 80s and when EE started in 85 according to Lord Michael cashman thst CS didn't know what has hit it and the very first epsiode proved that soaps never seen anything like it before.which culminated in the most watched soap epsiode in history in the 1986 Xmas day special by astonishing 28 million So whilst CS dominated untill 85 being only soap after that EE took over in 80s since then it's been between the two Agree anybody?? |
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Watching a programme on C5 called
20 moments that rocked 80s and when EE started in 85 according to Lord Michael cashman thst CS didn't know what has hit it and the very first epsiode proved that soaps never seen anything like it before.which culminated in the most watched soap epsiode in history in the 1986 Xmas day special by astonishing 28 million So whilst CS dominated untill 85 being only soap after that EE took over in 80s since then it's been between the two Agree anybody?? Having said that - Brookside was dreadful towards the end. |
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Brookside did it all already ... and a lot better.
Having said that - Brookside was dreadful towards the end. Rip Julia Smith |
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Brookside did it all already ... and a lot better.
Having said that - Brookside was dreadful towards the end. BBC basically took their lead from Channel 4 when they created EastEnders. It's only because they had a greater audience share and could challenge ITV that the Corrie vs EE thing began. |
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Good point there didn't thibk of that but I wouldn't say it was as good as EE very first epsiode den jumping over-the-bar and chucking Nick cotton & Ali out or.the way Pete beale den and Oscar got lcotton alone one night was chilling and brilliant script & scenes
Rip Julia Smith I think that's what was so incredible about Brookside - true reality. Until the end when it got even more ridiculous than ... lets say - Sharknado! |
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EE did feel like a force of nature then. I guess Brookie too.
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It was all very overrated. Don't get me wrong I did like EE but getting double figures for a BBC programme was the norm. There was nothing else to do but watch TV. There were some great episodes but much of it was mundane and by the late 80s it was looking to be on it's last legs..
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The thing about EastEnders even in its supposedly "glory years" is that there is only 20 or so episodes within one year that are actually something to write home about. It is either mediocre at best or downright awful the rest of the time.
It is easy to look back say such and such a time was a brilliant period for the show when there was probably a lot of rot in there too. |
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The thing about EastEnders even in its supposedly "glory years" is that there is only 20 or so episodes within one year that are actually something to write home about. It is either mediocre at best or downright awful the rest of the time.
It is easy to look back say such and such a time was a brilliant period for the show when there was probably a lot of rot in there too. Corrie mon/wed so.no clashes eiher but thst was in the days when itv did have some good programmes in evenings not v rubbish it now churns out soaps 5 nights a week in some cases Hour each night which is far too much IMHO |
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Going by this list EE features far more than any other soap.
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/art...me--e1YJKxTBHx |
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EastEnders wasn't an immediate hit. In fact initially there was a slide after the launch. The show had some amazing moments back then but it wasn't perfect.
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Going by this list EE features far more than any other soap.
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/art...me--e1YJKxTBHx |
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Also it was then on twice week too Tuesday/Thursday
Corrie mon/wed so.no clashes eiher but thst was in the days when itv did have some good programmes in evenings not v rubbish it now churns out soaps 5 nights a week in some cases Hour each night which is far too much IMHO |
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How ratings were compiled back then was a bit controversial and weighed in the favour of the BBC
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Going by this list EE features far more than any other soap.
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/art...me--e1YJKxTBHx |
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Those figures were a cheat because they included the omnibus that was shown the following Sunday. The BBC was renowned for cheating in this way so that they could pip programmes that did not show a repeat.
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EastEnders wasn't an immediate hit. In fact initially there was a slide after the launch. The show had some amazing moments back then but it wasn't perfect.
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Not Xmas editions as There were No omnibus at Xmas
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Watching a programme on C5 called
20 moments that rocked 80s and when EE started in 85 according to Lord Michael cashman thst CS didn't know what has hit it and the very first epsiode proved that soaps never seen anything like it before.which culminated in the most watched soap epsiode in history in the 1986 Xmas day special by astonishing 28 million So whilst CS dominated untill 85 being only soap after that EE took over in 80s since then it's been between the two Agree anybody??
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Says who ? I always remember Every Xmas BBC winning ratings war Always tho according to George coles autobiography minder on the orient express got more than OFAH thst year tho can't remember which epsiode it clashed with in
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Xmas was repeated. The figure for Xmas alone was about 19m, still good, but nowhere near 30m.
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Brookside did it all already ... and a lot better.
Having said that - Brookside was dreadful towards the end. EE being innovative and shocking Corrie out of its 'cosiness' does tend to be over stated. Brookside really was the game changer but it was on a minority channel - EE by virtue of being on BBC1 was always going to get a much larger audience than anything on Ch4 and was therefore deemed more of a threat to ITV so is seen as being the show that forced Corrie to update. Of course, it is also worth remembering that corrie was gritty and revolutionary when it had started 25 years earlier and arguably people have complained over the past few years that EE is now stuck in a time warp and not representative of modern day London. ETA. Just seen CPW4ever made most of these points in an earlier post. |
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EastEnders wasn't an immediate hit. In fact initially there was a slide after the launch. The show had some amazing moments back then but it wasn't perfect.
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My point exactly!
Not like the crap of all channels now and even more crap Golden age of TV I well as truly in past sadly |
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Says who ? I always remember Every Xmas BBC winning ratings war Always tho according to George coles autobiography minder on the orient express got more than OFAH thst year tho can't remember which epsiode it clashed with in
OFAH Xmas specials only really became 'event' tv in the late 80s by which time Minder had finished - or at least waterman had left and it was no longer the ratings smash it had been. Many posters have raised some very good points about how different ratings were back then (Doctor Who was axed in 85 because they said the ratings weren't good enough and it was getting over 7 million) - with only 4 channels, two of which were considered 'niche', few multiscreen cinemas so there was only one film shown for weeks on end, no internet, no Playstation etc, mostly only one or two tvs in the house and home video players fairly new and expensive - choice as to what you did really was limited so shows did get huge ratings. The omnibus did help EE ratins a great deal. And there was a Xmas repeat - the omnibus never missed a week, not even at Xmas. Ratings were still collated by means of selected households filling in a book as to what they had watched that week (we did it once - they just knocked on the door and asked if you would be prepared to do it) and then multiplied up to get the figures so arguably they could be manipulated depending on what type of areas they had doing - typically more affluent areas would be considered to ne be more BBC than ITV so it was a far from perfect or accurate system. |
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