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Old 29-08-2016, 19:53
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So the X Factor haters are now using repeat screenings against it. The desperation!
TXF not doing any better than your bog-standard episode of Coronation Street is nothing to gloat about.
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Old 29-08-2016, 19:56
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It's getting petty, and that's rich coming from me, but it is. X Factor isn't going anywhere anytime soon
I said as much yesterday. I completely agree. But at just 7% share the daytime repeat clearly needs to either be scrapped; aired on ITV2 only, or moved away from Bake Off. I don't think it's remotely petty to make that point.

I know it's a much loved programme in here including by a few posters I have a lot of time for but I think we're in danger of going back to those dark days where you can't say anything remotely negative about X Factor without there being some kind of uproar. Whereas I can think of a few programmes where far worse things are said on an almost daily basis - including very very nasty remarks about the audiences that are watching, which has precious little to do with viewing figures - and that's apparently okay?

So a bit of consistency would be nice. But to be absolutely clear: I think X Factor is doing fine overall and I've not got anything particularly bad to say about it at this point. But if I did, there's not a chance the fear of being shot down by the masses in here would stop me. I'm here to give my honest opinions on ratings, if I felt I could no longer do that freely then I wouldn't want to be involved.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:04
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Nice summer Bank holiday and of course it's a monsoon in EastEnders. It baffles me sometimes!
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:12
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Not much to add to what's already been said about the comedies and Victoria. No major surprises in the end but everything did very well. I must admit I was hoping one of the three shows might make us go - in a good way - but not this time. The Bank Holiday probably didn't help.


This is interesting, the new juggernaut &. the juggernaut of old facing off for 40 minutes yesterday afternoon.

Bake Off (R) up 77.3% on X Factor (R), compared to a 53.5% margin of superiority for the first run screenings.

I'd be interested to see next week how Victoria rpt's in the early evening slot on ITV (If they are repeating it on ITV like DA?).

We'll find out how TXF repeated on ITV2 tomorrow from ITV Media.

You can probably garuntee a few 100k viewers watch GBBO a 2nd time yesterday. I can't see how over 1m didn't watch, record or watch on Iplayer GBBO before Sunday.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:14
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So the X Factor haters are now using repeat screenings against it. The desperation!
Genuinely friendly tip - I don't think DS like that word being used, so I'd be careful of using it in the future.

But I would deny that, FWIW. I caught a bit of it over the weekend and it was okay - I think the auditions episodes are overproduced and would work much better stripped back - apart from that little wrong with it as a bit of light viewing, albeit not something I would consider particularly unmissable. I was pleased though to see that the emphasis was very much on the good singers. It's only when it gets to the "live" stages that I find it pretty unwatchable due to the amount of filler, adverts after every performance and controversial "judging" designed to get a reaction.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:19
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Genuinely friendly tip - I don't think DS like that word being used, so I'd be careful of using it in the future.
Oh. Thanks for the advice
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:22
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I'd be interested to see next week how Victoria rpt's in the early evening slot on ITV (If they are repeating it on ITV like DA?).

We'll find out how TXF repeated on ITV2 tomorrow from ITV Media.

You can probably garuntee a few 100k viewers watch GBBO a 2nd time yesterday. I can't see how over 1m didn't watch, record or watch on Iplayer GBBO before Sunday.
Yes, you'd have thought with the power of iPlayer that they might be a little closer together on the 2nd showings but instead they were even further apart, and that's despite TXF being a lot "fresher" as well. That was something else I was meaning to mention when bringing that up. Probably ties into the fact that BBC One is more dominant over ITV in daytime than is the case in peak, but still a little surprising.

Victoria does have a repeat at 2:25 next Sunday.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:22
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Another roundup, ratings from Gallifrey Base and I've adapted them into schedules.

Sunday 28 August 2016 Ratings Roundup
BBC 1
06:00: Breakfast - 650k (38.4%)
07:30: Match of the Day - 1.12m (25.0%)
09:00: BBC News - 1.39m (21.6%)
10:00: Sunday Morning Live - 830k (11.9%)
11:00: Homes Under the Hammer - 860k (12.0%)
12:00: Bargain Hunt - 1.18m (14.5%)
13:00: BBC News - 1.48m (14.7%)
13:15: Escape to the Continent - 1.01m (9.9%)
14:15: Summer: Earth’s Seasonal Secrets - 720k (7.4%)
15:15: Eat Well for Less? - 860k (9.3%)
16:15: The Great British Bake Off - 1.17m (11.1%)
17:15: Songs of Praise - 1.49m (12.0%)
17:45: Pointless Celebrities - 2.82m (20.3%)
19:00: Countryfile - 5.73m (34.8%)
20:00: Antiques Roadshow - 5.60m (27.7%)

21:00: Are You Being Served? - 5.04m (27.5%)
21:00: Porridge - 4.39m (21.8%)
22:00: BBC News - 4.05m (22.6%)
22:30: Match of the Day 2 - 2.22m (18.5%)
23:30: Comedy Connections - 1.10m (13.8%)
00:00: Comedy Connections - 830k (14.0%)
00:30: BBC News - 330k (10.1%)

BBC 2
16:30: Kate Humble: My Sheepdog and Me - 620k (5.6%)
17:30: The Great British Bake Off: An Extra Slice - 550k (4.3%)
18:00: Highlands: Scotland’s Wild Heart - 750k (5.2%)
19:00: Cats v Dogs: Which is Best? - 510k (3.1%)
20:00: Robot Wars - 1.40m (7.0%)
21:00: Dragon’s Den - 2.15m (10.5%)
22:00: Fleabag - 580k (3.3%)

ITV (inc. +1)
14:30: The Chase - 470k (4.9%)
15:30: The X Factor - 660k (6.9%)
17:00: Film: Despicable Me - 1.35m (10.5%)
18:30: ITV Regional News - 1.52m (10.1%)
18:45: ITV News and Weather - 1.53m (9.9%)
19:00: Ellie Simmonds: Swimming with Dolphins - 1.60m (9.7%)
20:00: The X Factor - 6.26m (31.0%)
* peak - 7.08m (33.1%) at 20:50

21:00: Victoria - 5.70m (29.6%)
22:30: ITV News and Weather - 2.71m (19.9%)
22:45: Slow Train Through Africa with Griff Rhys Jones - 1.01m (10.3%)
23:45: Tipping Point - 380k (6.6%)


Channel 4 (inc. +1)
12:00: Formula 1: Belgian Grand Prix Live - 1.95m (20.8%)
16:00: Guy Martin’s Passion for Life - 730k (7.6%)
16:30: Location, Location, Location - 540k (4.9%)
17:30: A Place in the Sun: Winter Sun - 700k (5.1%)
18:30: Channel 4 News - 370k (2.4%)
19:00: Posh Pawn - 620k (3.7%)
20:00: Prehistoric Megabeasts: Croc vs Snake - 770k (3.8%)
21:00: Big Fat Quiz of Everything - 1.07m (5.5%)

Channel 5 (inc. +1)
17:00: Pets Make You Laugh Out Loud - 580k (4.7%)
18:00: Cats Make You Laugh Out Loud 2 - 610k (4.2%)
19:00: Toddlers Make You Laugh Out Loud 2 - 720k (4.4%)
20:00: Can’t Pay? Benefits Special - 680k (3.4%)
21:00: Most Shocking Celebrity Moments of the 00s - 640k (4.2%)
Thanks so much lewi. I love these lists. I hope we get these every day now we're coming into Autumn.

Countryfile and AR did well over the Bank Holday given that I suspect its familes and younger viewers who go away at this time. The higher ratings for these makes TXF look even worse.

That's two nights in a row TXF has had to self start. ITV really need to find a hit that can go alongside TXF and supports it. The factual opposite Countryfile is like asking for trouble.

ITV News getting a boost does help the rpt's in the late evening. The Griff Ryhs Jones doc is about half of what the first run got in the Friday 9pm slot.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:22
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I said as much yesterday. I completely agree. But at just 7% share the daytime repeat clearly needs to either be scrapped; aired on ITV2 only, or moved away from Bake Off. I don't think it's remotely petty to make that point.

I know it's a much loved programme in here including by a few posters I have a lot of time for but I think we're in danger of going back to those dark days where you can't say anything remotely negative about X Factor without there being some kind of uproar. Whereas I can think of a few programmes where far worse things are said on an almost daily basis - including very very nasty remarks about the audiences that are watching, which has precious little to do with viewing figures - and that's apparently okay?

So a bit of consistency would be nice. But to be absolutely clear: I think X Factor is doing fine overall and I've not got anything particularly bad to say about it at this point. But if I did, there's not a chance the fear of being shot down by the masses in here would stop me. I'm here to give my honest opinions on ratings, if I felt I could no longer do that freely then I wouldn't want to be involved.
The issue for me is when certain posters are "disappointed" to see X Factor (insert other programmes on any channel) top the chart - clearly showing their anti-X Factor and/or channel agenda, or are annoyed if Victoria's broadcaster (insert other programmes on any channel) will be "smug" with their rating - clearly displaying their annoyance that ITV is a commercial broadcaster looking for ratings and profit. Or trot out a cringeworthy lengthy anti-X Factor comedy/sketch post last year in the hope of getting some laughs (he didn't, it fell flat on its face) - clearly showing dislike for a programme and returning a year later with the same agenda.

This regular wanting to see shows fail/not at the top of the ratings, I just don't understand it. Whether it's on ITV, BBC or whatever channel instead of championing popular shows and audience pleasers we have a few culprits on here who are only interested if it's on their channel and diss it if it's on the other side. It's childish and pathetic.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:24
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Didn't Michael Grade axe Dr Who ?
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:26
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Yes, you'd have thought with the power of iPlayer that they might be a little closer together on the 2nd showings but instead they were even further apart, and despite TXF being a lot "fresher" as well. That was something else I was meaning to mention when bringing that up. Probably ties into the fact that BBC One is more dominant over ITV in daytime than is the case in peak, but still a little surprising.

Victoria does have a repeat at 2:25 next Sunday.

Well I suspect most of BBC daytime is older skewing, and given the success of CF and AR in the evening is likely to have skewed much older than ITV in daytime.

With the BH effect I can't think TXF, and Despicable Me skew that old. So naturally if I'm correct, next Sunday ITV's daytime early evening ratings should rise more for TXF than BBC.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:32
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The issue for me is when certain posters are "disappointed" to see X Factor (insert other programmes on any channel) top the chart - clearly showing their anti-X Factor and/or channel agenda, or are annoyed if Victoria's broadcaster (insert other programmes on any channel) will be "smug" with their rating - clearly displaying their annoyance that ITV is a commercial broadcaster looking for ratings and profit. Or trot out a cringeworthy lengthy anti-X Factor comedy/sketch post last year in the hope of getting some laughs (he didn't, it fell flat on its face) - clearly showing dislike for a programme and returning a year later with the same agenda.

This regular wanting to see shows fail/not at the top of the ratings, I just don't understand it. Whether it's on ITV, BBC or whatever channel instead of championing popular shows and audience pleasers we have a few culprits on here who are only interested if it's on their channel and diss it if it's on the other side. It's childish and pathetic.

I haven't been on this thread for a long time. Please don't tell me you still get posters championing a specific channel and rubbishing anything on another channel - as you say pathetic and quite frankly embarrassing.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:33
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The issue for me is when certain posters are "disappointed" to see X Factor (insert other programmes on any channel) top the chart - clearly showing their anti-X Factor and/or channel agenda, or are annoyed if Victoria's broadcaster (insert other programmes on any channel) will be "smug" with their rating - clearly displaying their annoyance that ITV is a commercial broadcaster looking for ratings and profit. Or trot out a cringeworthy lengthy anti-X Factor comedy/sketch post last year in the hope of getting some laughs (he didn't, it fell flat on its face) - clearly showing dislike/hatred for a programme and returning a year later with the same agenda.

This regular wanting to see shows fail/not at the top of the ratings, I just don't understand it. Whether it's on ITV, BBC or whatever channel instead of championing popular shows and audience pleasers we have a few culprits on here who are only interested if it's on their channel and diss it if it's on the other side. It's childish and pathetic.
This all seems fair enough, although I'd add that it's probably okay to be disappointed that X Factor was top if you think something else deserved it more, like Victoria for example. If it becomes an anti-ITV thing then that's a whole different ball game, we do need to get away from that.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:42
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Yes, you'd have thought with the power of iPlayer that they might be a little closer together on the 2nd showings but instead they were even further apart, and that's despite TXF being a lot "fresher" as well. That was something else I was meaning to mention when bringing that up. Probably ties into the fact that BBC One is more dominant over ITV in daytime than is the case in peak, but still a little surprising.

Victoria does have a repeat at 2:25 next Sunday.
Episode 1 of Victoria is repeated next Saturday at 2.45pm leading into X Factor part 2 at 4.15pm. Then part 2 of Victoria on Sunday leading into part 3 of X Factor at 3.30pm......

Leading into the World Cup qualifier at 4.30 into the news at 7.30 then X Factor at 8pm.

Be interesting to see how many people want to watch the England game bearing in mind what happened the last time they played a match.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:52
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Be interesting to see how many people want to watch the England game bearing in mind what happened the last time they played a match.
Now that is something we could legitimately say doesn't deserve to rate.

On another subject, has anyone seen any of Eurosport's US Open coverage today? How are they doing now they are the sole rights holder in the UK? Could be a big month for them if Murray can rediscover his form following his defeat in Cincinnati.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:58
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The X Factor was repeatd on ITV2 at noon yesterday, so than potentially might have reduced the 3rd showing on ITV.
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Old 29-08-2016, 20:59
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I suspect like last year, the Six Chair Challege wil be the highest part of the show.
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Old 29-08-2016, 21:01
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This all seems fair enough, although I'd add that it's probably okay to be disappointed that X Factor was top if you think something else deserved it more, like Victoria for example. If it becomes an anti-ITV thing then that's a whole different ball game, we do need to get away from that.
I think the poster was referring to being "disappointed" that Casualty didn't beat X Factor on Saturday night and likewise the BBC comedies were beaten by the "smug" ITV with their Victoria on the Sunday. It smacked of an anti-ITV post...

But as you know we have folk who dismiss anything Channel 5 puts on as rubbish so it's not just ITV.
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Old 29-08-2016, 21:09
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I think the poster was referring to being "disappointed" that Casualty didn't beat X Factor on Saturday night and likewise the BBC comedies were beaten by the "smug" ITV with their Victoria on the Sunday. It smacked of an anti-ITV post...

But as you know we have folk who dismiss anything Channel 5 puts on as rubbish so it's not just ITV.
What's wrong with saying you were disappointed by a particular programme, it's only a matter of opinion surely ?
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Old 29-08-2016, 21:10
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What's wrong with saying you were disappointed by a particular programme, it's only a matter of opinion surely ?
Of course people have opinions. However, many people on here have agendas against Simon Cowell which is not right.
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Old 29-08-2016, 21:33
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Monday 27 August 1984

ITV (Thames TV was off the air)
19:00 - The Krypton Factor - 6.40m
19:30 - Coronation Street - 9.04m
20:00 - Regional variations (replacing The Benny Hill Show)
21:00 - News
21:15 - Regional variations (replacing The Long Good Friday)

BBC1
17:05 - Disney Time: 5.02m
17:50 - News
18:05 - Film: King Kong (Repeat): 7.23m
20:15 - Only Fools and Horses (Repeat): 11.37m
20:45 - News: 11.05m
21:00 - Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Song and Dance" - 6.21m
22:40 - Edinburgh Military Tattoo: 3.89m

BBC2
18:05 - Names and Games: 3.33m
18:55-19:25 - Dear Ladies (Repeat): 2.2m
21:00-21:15 - Stories By Oscar Wilde: 0.8m

C4
18:40-19:00 - Let's Parlez Franglais: 0.3m
21:00 - Kellogg's City Centre Cycling: 1.5m
22:00 - St. Elsewhere: 2.15m
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Old 29-08-2016, 21:38
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Hope BBC4 have a good night with Country Bus,its absolutely brilliant,and trending number two on twitter.
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Old 29-08-2016, 21:42
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So the X Factor haters are now using repeat screenings against it. The desperation!
Exactly, as if a repeat of an audition show on a bank holiday Sunday afternoon is of any importance.

This poster seems to be going in hard criticising TXF this year to try and offset the criticism a certain other elderly reality show receives.
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Old 29-08-2016, 21:45
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On another subject, has anyone seen any of Eurosport's US Open coverage today? How are they doing now they are the sole rights holder in the UK? Could be a big month for them if Murray can rediscover his form following his defeat in Cincinnati.
Eurosport 1 is British skewed with Rob Curling in London with Annabel Croft and Greg Rusedski. They're doing lives with New York - just done one with Chris Bradnam and Mark Petchey in the courtside commentary box.

They had the Karl Edmonds match, followed by Nadal. Just joined Isner match in 5th set. Durie and Castle commentating and linking live with London.

Haven't seen much of Eurosport 2, but I read on another forum it's presented from Flushing Meadows by Mats Wilander for pan-European audience.

Simon Reed and Frew McMillan currently commentating on Muguruza v Mertens.

Assume they're going to be simulcasting big matches?
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Old 29-08-2016, 22:31
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Monday 25 August 1986

ITV
11:20-13:00 Film: Where's Willie? (Premiere): 4.41m
13:05-13:20 - Walt Disney Presents: 5.85m
14:15-16:15 - International Motor Racing: Halfords Super Prix: 5.72m
17:30 - Film: The Story of Robin Hood and His Merrie Men (Premiere): 8.88m
19:00 - What's My Line?: 9.93m
19:30 - Coronation Street: 15.6m
20:00 - The Benny Hill Show (Repeat): 11.25m
21:00 - Return to Eden: 13.25m

BBC1
10:50 - Bank Holiday Grandstand: 3.40m
16:40 - Final Score: 5.85m
17:15 - Disney Time: 9.10m
18:00 - News
18:20 - Jim'll Fix It: 8.79m
19:00 - Wogan Week's average 6.56m
19:40 - Film: Dad's Army (Repeat): 9.65m
21:10 - Wilderness Road: 6.21m
21:40 - News
22:00 - Fighting Back: 3.66m

C4
15:15-17:00 - Film: Smashing Time (Repeat): 4.00m
20:00 - Brookside: 5.80m (inc. Saturday repeat)
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