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Old 29-08-2016, 22:35
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Ray do you have row ratings for Sunday 1st September 1985 on BBC1 and ITV?
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Old 29-08-2016, 22:39
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Monday 25 August 1986

ITV
11:20-13:00 Film: Where's Willie? (Premiere): 4.41m
13:05-13:20 - Walt Disney Presents: 5.85m
14:15-16:15 - International Motor Racing: Halfords Super Prix: 5.72m
17:30 - Film: The Story of Robin Hood and His Merrie Men (Premiere): 8.88m
19:00 - What's My Line?: 9.93m
19:30 - Coronation Street: 15.6m
20:00 - The Benny Hill Show (Repeat): 11.25m
21:00 - Return to Eden: 13.25m

BBC1
10:50 - Bank Holiday Grandstand: 3.40m
16:40 - Final Score: 5.85m
17:15 - Disney Time: 9.10m
18:00 - News
18:20 - Jim'll Fix It: 8.79m
19:00 - Wogan Week's average 6.56m
19:40 - Film: Dad's Army (Repeat): 9.65m
21:10 - Wilderness Road: 6.21m
21:40 - News
22:00 - Fighting Back: 3.66m

C4
15:15-17:00 - Film: Smashing Time (Repeat): 4.00m
20:00 - Brookside: 5.80m (inc. Saturday repeat)
Thanks Ray.

So what do we reckon? Better or worse than Bank Holiday Monday this year? Back then I was watching BBC1 to 8pm then switched to ITV for Benny Hill and Return To Eden.
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Old 29-08-2016, 22:40
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Eurosport 1 is British skewed with Rob Curling in London with Annabel Croft and Greg Rusedski. They're doing lives with New York - just done one with Chris Bradnam and Mark Petchey in the courtside commentary box.

They had the Karl Edmonds match, followed by Nadal. Just joined Isner match in 5th set. Durie and Castle commentating and linking live with London.

Haven't seen much of Eurosport 2, but I read on another forum it's presented from Flushing Meadows by Mats Wilander for pan-European audience.

Simon Reed and Frew McMillan currently commentating on Muguruza v Mertens.

Assume they're going to be simulcasting big matches?
Sounds like a decent setup they have. Always rated Rob Curling, so it's good to see him getting an opportunity like this. Does he still read the sports news on Sky as well?

Now Eurosport is improving in terms of content I'd be very tempted to subscribe to their Player if they sorted their device compatibility out - I've no interest at all in watching events on my PC and I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling this way. And whilst there are one or two ways you can "stream" it to your TV currently, not many devices are supported.

When you look at where Sky, Amazon and Netflix are in terms of availability - and the innovations with the BBC Red Button recently - Eurosport just seem to be miles behind pretty much everyone in this area. They need to sort out the digital side of things quickly if they are serious about being a major player.
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Old 29-08-2016, 22:50
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Thanks Ray.

So what do we reckon? Better or worse than Bank Holiday Monday this year? Back then I was watching BBC1 to 8pm then switched to ITV for Benny Hill and Return To Eden.
I remember that day. It rained solidly for about 24 hours. I watched BBC1 from 6.20 until 9.10pm, and I recorded Wilderness Road to watch the next day, because I wasn't allowed to stay up much past 9pm in those days. I don't know if that was concern about my sleeping patterns, or just a scam to get the remote control out of my hands.
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Old 29-08-2016, 22:55
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Monday 27 August 1984

BBC1
17:05 - Disney Time: 5.02m
17:50 - News
18:05 - Film: King Kong (Repeat): 7.23m
20:15 - Only Fools and Horses (Repeat): 11.37m
20:45 - News: 11.05m
21:00 - Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Song and Dance" - 6.21m
22:40 - Edinburgh Military Tattoo: 3.89m

C4
18:40-19:00 - Let's Parlez Franglais: 0.3m
21:00 - Kellogg's City Centre Cycling: 1.5m
22:00 - St. Elsewhere: 2.15m
I remember this day, too. Got dragged out to a fairground in the evening, missed Only Fools and Horses, and got kicked in the back by some scrote on the big slide. Remember seeing some of that cycling after I got home. Not sure how I wangled the later bedtime that night.
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:00
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I remember that day. It rained solidly for about 24 hours. I watched BBC1 from 6.20 until 9.10pm, and I recorded Wilderness Road to watch the next day, because I wasn't allowed to stay up much past 9pm in those days. I don't know if that was concern about my sleeping patterns, or just a scam to get the remote control out of my hands.
Return to Eden had Peta Toppano. As a teenage boy I had to see her! It was enjoyably preposterous.
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:04
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Jim'll Fix It was a great show which has now been tarnished forever due to the revelations of Savile. I used to watch it all the time, now I can't face it a all.
I used to like it too. It was like he had a split personality in those days, though. Sometimes he'd be restrained and smartly-dressed, and other weeks, he'd be as mad as a bucket of frogs, and wearing some ridiculous string vest or tracksuit-based outfit.
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:06
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Return to Eden had Peta Toppano. As a teenage boy I had to see her! It was enjoyably preposterous.
Ah, I was only eleven, so she'd have been wasted on me until a few years later.
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:07
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I used to like it too. It was like he had a split personality in those days, though. Sometimes he'd be restrained and smartly-dressed, and other weeks, he'd be as mad as a bucket of frogs, and wearing some ridiculous string vest or tracksuit-based outfit.
Think I read he wore the tracksuit for specific reasons.
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:09
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Think he wore the tracksuit for specific reasons.
Probably.

*shudders*
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:17
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I used to like it too. It was like he had a split personality in those days, though. Sometimes he'd be restrained and smartly-dressed, and other weeks, he'd be as mad as a bucket of frogs, and wearing some ridiculous string vest or tracksuit-based outfit.
I'm furious chat Savile never got caught and that I can't face a show I enjoyed ever again. He was never that good really and anybody could have hosted that show. I always thought he was a bit odd and at school back then rumours went round about him being weird, this was pre internet and yet the stories went to several playgrounds. Turned out to be true as well!

The most memorable fix it was the boy scouts eating food on a rollercoaster. That always made me laugh but now it's just revulsion thinking about it because one of them was his victims.

I feel so conflicted talking about Jim'll Fix it as it was a huge hit but I don't want to talk about it. I'm just rambling now.
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:30
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Ray do you have row ratings for Sunday 1st September 1985 on BBC1 and ITV?
Sunday 1 September 1985

ITV
17:00/18:00 - Bullseye: 7.94m
18:40 - Highway: 6.42m
19:15 - Albion Market ? Fri/Sun average: 6.18m
19:45 - Lace II: Episode One: 11.93m
21:15 - News
21:30 - The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: 7.22m
22:30 - Churchill's Few: 3.82m

BBC1
13:50 - Cartoon: 3.93m
14:00 - EastEnders (Repeat): ?
15:00 - Tom and Jerry: 6.26m
15:10 - Film: The Way West (Repeat): 6.59m
17:10 - Antiques Roadshow: 5.54m
17:50 - Watchdog: 6.66m
18:20 - Write Now!: 6.16m
18:30 - News
18:40 - Songs of Praise: ?
19:15 - Open All Hours: 15.69m
19:45 - Howards' Way: 9.77m
20:35 - Whicker's World: Living with Uncle Sam: 11.58m
21:30 - In Sickness and In Health: 15.58m
22:00 - News: 11.45m

BBC2
13:55-18:50 - Sunday Grandstand: 2.90m
22:00 - Film: The Group (Repeat): 3.47m

C4
22:05 - Film: Virginia City (Repeat): 2.25m
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:31
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I'm furious chat Savile never got caught and that I can't face a show I enjoyed ever again. He was never that good really and anybody could have hosted that show. I always thought he was a bit odd and at school back then rumours went round about him being weird, this was pre internet and yet the stories went to several playgrounds. Turned out to be true as well!

The most memorable fix it was the boy scouts eating food on a rollercoaster. That always made me laugh but now it's just revulsion thinking about it because one of them was his victims.

I feel so conflicted talking about Jim'll Fix it as it was a huge hit but I don't want to talk about it. I'm just rambling now.
I always got told he had a brother who lived in a caravan not far from me in south Wales. No idea if that was true or not.

The ratings were pretty ropey in the final few years. I'm surprised the show went on for as long as it did.

Great theme tune on the closing credits, though.
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:47
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I said as much yesterday. I completely agree. But at just 7% share the daytime repeat clearly needs to either be scrapped; aired on ITV2 only, or moved away from Bake Off. I don't think it's remotely petty to make that point.

I know it's a much loved programme in here including by a few posters I have a lot of time for but I think we're in danger of going back to those dark days where you can't say anything remotely negative about X Factor without there being some kind of uproar. Whereas I can think of a few programmes where far worse things are said on an almost daily basis - including very very nasty remarks about the audiences that are watching, which has precious little to do with viewing figures - and that's apparently okay?

So a bit of consistency would be nice. But to be absolutely clear: I think X Factor is doing fine overall and I've not got anything particularly bad to say about it at this point. But if I did, there's not a chance the fear of being shot down by the masses in here would stop me. I'm here to give my honest opinions on ratings, if I felt I could no longer do that freely then I wouldn't want to be involved.
I think that's a fair summary.

With the daytime repeat yesterday though, I think it tells you more about the state of ITV's weekend day times than anything about X Factor or Bake Off. Whilst that number for the X Factor repeat is pathetic, it actually got a higher share than anything else they'd aired so far yesterday, which is dire but suggests they won't move it. It was a particularly awful piece of scheduling as it was only a couple of hours after the ITV2 repeat of the same episode had ended. I doubt Bake Off made much difference as I don't imagine it would have done much more without it there.

You've every right to give your honest views about X Factor, just as we all have about any show. I think because it does attract some vitrol from a couple of posters a few others will defend it (myself included sometimes in the past). As it happens, there isn't actually a huge amount to say about the launch weekend figures. They're fine. Nobody will be jumping up and down with joy at them but equally there's been no disaster, it's still a relatively big show and last night was pretty much flat year on year. It's been a solid but unspectacular start and I think most have acknowledged that. I think both episodes have been really enjoyable as a fan of the show which is nice to see after last year's shambles and hopefully the figures might reflect that a bit if they keep it up. I'm not expecting anything drastic but a slight bump (for the Sunday show if nothing else) next week would be nice.
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:51
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So, what we've learned from those ratings is that... telly has always been bloody awful on bank holidays and in summer? And that people mostly only watched the rubbish that was on cos there was nothing else on.
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:53
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Sunday 1 September 1985

ITV
17:00/18:00 - Bullseye: 7.94m
18:40 - Highway: 6.42m
19:15 - Albion Market ? Fri/Sun average: 6.18m
19:45 - Lace II: Episode One: 11.93m
21:15 - News
21:30 - The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: 7.22m
22:30 - Churchill's Few: 3.82m

BBC1
13:50 - Cartoon: 3.93m
14:00 - EastEnders (Repeat): ?
15:00 - Tom and Jerry: 6.26m
15:10 - Film: The Way West (Repeat): 6.59m
17:10 - Antiques Roadshow: 5.54m
17:50 - Watchdog: 6.66m
18:20 - Write Now!: 6.16m
18:30 - News
18:40 - Songs of Praise: ?
19:15 - Open All Hours: 15.69m
19:45 - Howards' Way: 9.77m
20:35 - Whicker's World: Living with Uncle Sam: 11.58m
21:30 - In Sickness and In Health: 15.58m
22:00 - News: 11.45m

BBC2
13:55-18:50 - Sunday Grandstand: 2.90m
22:00 - Film: The Group (Repeat): 3.47m

C4
22:05 - Film: Virginia City (Repeat): 2.25m
Thanks Ray.

That Sunday Autumn schedule on BBC1 was perfect when BBC1 was great again under Michael Grade. Didn't Howards' Way grow to at least 11m during that first series?
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Old 29-08-2016, 23:56
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So, what we've learned from those ratings is that... telly has always been bloody awful on bank holidays and in summer? And that people mostly only watched the rubbish that was on cos there was nothing else on.
I'd also say that when a programme gets 9/10m now they've really earned it. Back then with less channels it was fairly easy if the programme was half decent.
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Old 30-08-2016, 00:01
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I always got told he had a brother who lived in a caravan not far from me in south Wales. No idea if that was true or not.

The ratings were pretty ropey in the final few years. I'm surprised the show went on for as long as it did.

Great theme tune on the closing credits, though.
For a long period Jim'll Fix It did very well, it was skirting around 19/20m at one point I think. Went on far too long. Catchy theme too. Kids wrote in wanting to sing the end one..
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Old 30-08-2016, 00:08
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The issue for me is when certain posters are "disappointed" to see X Factor (insert other programmes on any channel) top the chart - clearly showing their anti-X Factor and/or channel agenda, or are annoyed if Victoria's broadcaster (insert other programmes on any channel) will be "smug" with their rating - clearly displaying their annoyance that ITV is a commercial broadcaster looking for ratings and profit. Or trot out a cringeworthy lengthy anti-X Factor comedy/sketch post last year in the hope of getting some laughs (he didn't, it fell flat on its face) - clearly showing dislike for a programme and returning a year later with the same agenda.

This regular wanting to see shows fail/not at the top of the ratings, I just don't understand it. Whether it's on ITV, BBC or whatever channel instead of championing popular shows and audience pleasers we have a few culprits on here who are only interested if it's on their channel and diss it if it's on the other side. It's childish and pathetic.
Oh, get off your high horse.

I will admit - "smug" wasn't the right word to use. That wasn't what I meant. I meant "content", "satisfied". That ITV bosses will feel a warm glow seeing their lavish new period drama get the better of the heavily-promoted BBC1 revived sitcoms (particularly seeing how well the Still Open All Hours one-off performed). That most critics properly expect Poldark to beat Victoria in the ratings (established hit verses newcomer) but last night's performance gives ITV hope that their show will hold its own in the ratings

But I don't have to justify my dislike of The X Factor to anyone. X Factor has an ego, and, yes, it won't be the only programme to have one, but like Who Wants To Be A Millionaire before it, it struggles to accept it is no longer the biggest programme on television - not by a long chalk.

There are so many tricks that The X Factor has used to boost ratings over the years - too many to mention, and some of them are not particularly nice. But now their tricks have stopped working. Their ratings are in permanent decline. Simon Cowell as-good-as-sacked everybody from last year's series and brought back a load of old faces and presumably he expected to boost ratings or he wouldn't have done it, But it hasn't worked. Ratings are still going down.

Or it hasn't worked YET. Hey, maybe year-on-year will start to increase as we go along. After all, next Saturday's edition has no discernable competition from BBC1 whatsoever (week-on-week rises don't count, because obviously figures will go up as we move deeper into Autumn) and if year-on-year increases happen then you can say "I told you so" .

I didn't expect Casualty to beat X factor on Saturday. Casualty was at the higher end of my expectation. But when Sunday night X Factor dropped year-on-year and day-on-day. what's wrong with thinking that one of the other offerings on a packed night might have edged ahead of it. - the mighty Countryfile. Or the revived sitcom curios (whose rating I think were rather disappointed. Or the comedies are going to flop, then ITV's lavish new period drama. Which I've just watched. (Part 1 tonight, catch up on part 2 later).

Cos I DON'T hate ITV. it's just that with so much of its primetime filled with those dreary depressing soap operas (and I hate EastEnders as much as I hate Coronation Street and Emmerdale) there's not very much on the channel that I watch. (Enjoyed The Durrells and Lewis and Scott & Bailey. LOVE The Chase - give it the edge over its rival Pointless. Heck, I even watch You've Been Framed now and again. Yes, it's me that does it.)

So I'll try again with smilies.

Disappointed that X Factor topped this ratings on Sunday night. this (means, that whatever I think about the X Factor, the comment was made with tongue in cheek.)
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Old 30-08-2016, 00:11
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I'd also say that when a programme gets 9/10m now they've really earned it. Back then with less channels it was fairly easy if the programme was half decent.
Jennifer Saunders said that, back in the eighties, she was delighted when she was told her ITV sitcom Girls On Top had 10 million viewers. Until she realized that EVERYTHING on ITV got 10 million viewers in those days.
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Old 30-08-2016, 00:13
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Jennifer Saunders said that, back in the eighties, she was delighted when she was told her ITV sitcom Girls On Top had 10 million viewers. Until she realized that EVERYTHING on ITV got 10 million viewers in those days.
You really had to be dreadful to not get 9/10m back then.
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Old 30-08-2016, 09:12
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Sounds like a decent setup they have. Always rated Rob Curling, so it's good to see him getting an opportunity like this. Does he still read the sports news on Sky as well?
He's a good all rounder. He's freelance and still pops up on Sky News occasionally.

Must be the first broadcaster to anchor all four tennis Grand Slams in the same year.

Now Eurosport have frozen Sky out of the US Open and the BBC out of the Australian, wonder if they'll do the same with ITV and the French?
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Old 30-08-2016, 09:25
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He's a good all rounder. He's freelance and still pops up on Sky News occasionally.

Must be the first broadcaster to anchor all four tennis Grand Slams in the same year.

Now Eurosport have frozen Sky out of the US Open and the BBC out of the Australian, wonder if they'll do the same with ITV and the French?
Sky don't have the US Open anymore?
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Old 30-08-2016, 09:35
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Now Eurosport have frozen Sky out of the US Open and the BBC out of the Australian, wonder if they'll do the same with ITV and the French?
ITV have the French for a few more years. The Beeb gave up both the French and the Australian rather than having them nicked off them and even when they had them only put out a minimal representation. Tennis on the Beeb is Queens, Wimby, Davis Cup (if we're in it) and that thing at the end of the year in the O2. Pretty pathetic considering Murray is one of the top players in the world and yet is unsupported by the BBC in three of the major slams.
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Old 30-08-2016, 09:36
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Victoria : 5.20m (25.2%) Inc +1

A bit of a drop from Sunday but has retained the majority of its audience which looks promising.
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