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I am of the age. I work with people of that age. No one has talked about it at all. Not one. I'd suggest there is "buzz" at your work because you brought the subject up? My sister was an avid fan. She cried for ages when that character got killed off. She loved it. I asked her if she will watch it. "Nah! Some things are best left alone!" she replied.
I suppose it depends on the individual of course. If you never watched it the first time round, you probably won't be talking about it. It was like that for me and Skins. I was the right age for it, the same as the characters, but I never liked it whereas loads of people did. |
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Again, that doesn't mean that's the feeling everywhere. I didn't bring it up actually, because the people who were on about it work in a different department. But later that day someone asked me if I was going to watch it and I've seen a lot of discussion on twitter about it.
I suppose it depends on the individual of course. If you never watched it the first time round, you probably won't be talking about it. It was like that for me and Skins. I was the right age for it, the same as the characters, but I never liked it whereas loads of people did. |
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Agreed. Porridge and AYBS were burn offs basically, dumped on a random free Sunday of August bank holiday weekend against Victoria with no specific promotion. The dire sitcoms trailer they came up with was a surefire marker that they thought porridge and AYBS were clunkers. They are properly promoting Goodnight Sweatheart and Young Hyacinth I think I heard (last night; was in the kitchen so only half heard but think I'm right!), so perhaps more faith there?
I could see Porridge having more legs to become a series as it was properly modernised with a new storyline. AYBS was basically modern actors doing impressions of the old cast, with an overload of pussy gags which probably didn't happen as frequently in the originals. The only bit of storyline that progressed it didn't fit very well in my opinion because Matthew Horne overacted his part a bit. Having said that, Still Open All Hours is basically the same gags and a thin storyline every week, so AYBS could probably also return as a series and if scheduled after Countryfile would rate well as well. |
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The little clips they are using in the sitcom series trailer are mostly dire though and hardly give anyone an incentive to watch and that's before you get onto the bizarre Michael Fish business linking it together.
I could see Porridge having more legs to become a series as it was properly modernised with a new storyline. AYBS was basically modern actors doing impressions of the old cast, with an overload of pussy gags which probably didn't happen as frequently in the originals. The only bit of storyline that progressed it didn't fit very well in my opinion because Matthew Horne overacted his part a bit. Having said that, Still Open All Hours is basically the same gags and a thin storyline every week, so AYBS could probably also return as a series and if scheduled after Countryfile would rate well as well. |
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The producer of Victoria has said that it is "consolidating like a rat up a drainpipe" on Twitter. Looking forward to seeing what it ends up with.
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The producer of Victoria has said that it is "consolidating like a rat up a drainpipe" on Twitter. Looking forward to seeing what it ends up with.
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I'd love to see Coupling and Men Behaving Badly return for one-offs, Coupling probably would be harder to do because Moffatt is busy with Sherlock and Doctor Who and MBB is dependent on the whole cast coming back plus Simon Nye writing a script they all like
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I hope it does do well. I would love ITV to become the great broadcaster it once was. It is sad that it relies on the same few programmes each year to attract advertisers whereas in the past it would have been show after show, night after night that attracted the advertisers to them. If Cold Feet, Victoria and new programmes can help turn the reputation of ITV around, then that is good for everyone. I don't for one moment think Cold Feet will flop. But I just urge an air of caution when over estimating ratings. Based on the way TV is now, I'd predict 5 - 5.5 million overnights and rising to 7 in consolidated ratings. Above that and ITV will have secured a major success and made me eat my underpants!
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AYBS could never be scheduled early evening these days. In a world where people below the age of 35 find anything and everything offensive, it wouldn't suit a pre-watershed timeslot. It's incredible that so many sitcoms in primetime 30 years ago would be unsuitable to be in the same timeslot today. Says a lot about how sensitive we've become.
I mean they show Carry On films during the day and nobody complains. I honestly don't think anyone would have a problem with AYBS being on at 8 or 8:30. Especially when there's worse in your average episode of EastEnders. |
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Probably not as quickly or as far as it would have without the second episode being shown last night. I still don't understand why they did that. Some drama about Tutankhamun is not going to do much, so I don't see the point of hobbling Victoria for it.
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Anyway, I have a potential tidbit of news. A company we work with regularly are trying to get the contract to produce a new version of the Fort Boyard format. Obviously it's probably just a pilot but are there any bets on what channel it might be on? I'd love for it to be Five but I can't see it.
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Maybe ITV as they already do/did a kids version
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Maybe ITV as they already do/did a kids version
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The producer of Victoria has said that it is "consolidating like a rat up a drainpipe" on Twitter. Looking forward to seeing what it ends up with.
Out of interest, why did ITV show the first two episodes over 2 nights? Sunday is going to be it's normal day so seems odd to start with two episodes. I can't recall them using this strategy before. Is it purely cos they want it to rate opposite Poldark and they thought launching it with two episodes over two nights was the best way to go?! |
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I can see the first episode reaching 8m.
Out of interest, why did ITV show the first two episodes over 2 nights? Sunday is going to be it's normal day so seems odd to start with two episodes. I can't recall them using this strategy before. Is it purely cos they want it to rate opposite Poldark and they thought launching it with two episodes over two nights was the best way to go?! |
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I can see the first episode reaching 8m.
Out of interest, why did ITV show the first two episodes over 2 nights? Sunday is going to be it's normal day so seems odd to start with two episodes. I can't recall them using this strategy before. Is it purely cos they want it to rate opposite Poldark and they thought launching it with two episodes over two nights was the best way to go?! One - ITV started Victoria last night to get a jump on Poldark but then saw this put it up the revived sitcoms, and thinking that they might do better than they did (remembering how well the Still Open All Hours one-off did) they run episode 2 the next night up against what looked like much weaker competition in Thor. Alternatively - and more likely - it's to make some space to fit in the 4-part Tutankhamen on Sunday nights before I'm A Celebrity returns. |
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Why does rzt not post on this forum anymore?
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Because it's full of negative partisan channel-hating, point scoring and a general lack of anything close to resembling an objective/measured look at ratings performance within the framework of a general passion for TV as an industry?
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Agreed. Porridge and AYBS were burn offs basically, dumped on a random free Sunday of August bank holiday weekend against Victoria with no specific promotion. The dire sitcoms trailer they came up with was a surefire marker that they thought porridge and AYBS were clunkers. They are properly promoting Goodnight Sweatheart and Young Hyacinth I think I heard (last night; was in the kitchen so only half heard but think I'm right!), so perhaps more faith there?
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I also thought The Coopers Vs the Rest was rather good last night too and I would like to see if that has the legs for a series so I think its been a rather successful start to the Sitcom Season for them.
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Not surprised by the AYBS? AI figure. It was always going to divide an audience as it is not remotely a 21st century show and so will not be to the taste of many people under 35. And to those over 35 it will always pale against the original.
I still think we will not see a series of these things without a Christmas special first - just to ensure that there really is an audience and not just the curiosity factor for these one off returns. Possibly they will work better in small doses, too. Grace Brothers at Christmas 1988 can be funny. Grace Brothers 1988 over 6 normal episodes might be more of a stretch. Quote:
AYBS could never be scheduled early evening these days. In a world where people below the age of 35 find anything and everything offensive, it wouldn't suit a pre-watershed timeslot. It's incredible that so many sitcoms in primetime 30 years ago would be unsuitable to be in the same timeslot today. Says a lot about how sensitive we've become.
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I mean they show Carry On films during the day and nobody complains. I honestly don't think anyone would have a problem with AYBS being on at 8 or 8:30. Especially when there's worse in your average episode of EastEnders.
I also wouldn't necessarily agree yesterday's sitcoms couldn't air pre-watershed, a lot of the post-watershed sitcoms of the past could now happily play pre-watershed. There are jokes you can't tell now but there were jokes you couldn't tell then. You certainly wouldn't have got Vicious at 9pm on ITV. It would either be very, very late (French and Saunders' first ever TV show, a pilot for C4 in 1983, was screened at 11.30 because of one rude word) or, more likely, not on at all. |
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Not sure if anyone saw it but "Home from Home" was my favourite of the sitcom pilots so far. Beautifully written and acted, and nice to see 'straight' actors like Emilia Fox paired with comedy actors like Johnny Vegas. It's a good plot which I could see having mileage as well. Plus there's opportunity for character development as we'll only be seeing the characters each time they visit the lodge, which allows for stuff to progress off screen. Hope it goes to series.
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The sooner they get out of that contract the better, I think a US drama could work on Saturdays. Fridays could be the comedy night with Lip Sync Battle, Borderline and maybe a mix of original and acquired comedies with 11pm for stand up specials. They do need a stronger panel show that could bring in viewers
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Seeing as C5 and co is Viacom brands I am surprised neither has tried to get RuPaul's Drag Race rather than it be on TruTV. I think it will rate well on 5Star or even C5 itself.
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I can't blame them for wanting a bit of variety though. It's good to see ITV really making an effort with lots of new content on. Plus, giving Victoria a Monday slot this week meant they didn't have to show filler until Cold Feet starts. Also, the added bonus that it gives Victoria a 2 episode lead over Poldark, which might put new viewers off starting Poldark and they'll stick with a show they've seen more episodes of and enjoyed.
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Not sure if anyone saw it but "Home from Home" was my favourite of the sitcom pilots so far. Beautifully written and acted, and nice to see 'straight' actors like Emilia Fox paired with comedy actors like Johnny Vegas. It's a good plot which I could see having mileage as well. Plus there's opportunity for character development as we'll only be seeing the characters each time they visit the lodge, which allows for stuff to progress off screen. Hope it goes to series.
Home From Home was harder to warm to, but if it went to series I'd probably watch, although not 100% I'd still be watching by the end of the run. |
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What's wrong with saying you were disappointed by a particular programme, it's only a matter of opinion surely ?
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Re Cold Feet, let's not forget it was never a monster ratings hit in 1990s/early 2000s terms. The ratings are all there on Wikipedia and it was basically a 7-8m moderate success not a 10-13m+ leviathan. True it got its best numbers for the short s5 wrap up with 10m+ for the last ever episode.
But that's the start point, the peak. It would be odd if the series got some of its best ever figures for a 10 years on slightly unnecessary and desperate revival, so you kind of think it's in the 6-7m bracket at absolute best. |
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