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Old 01-09-2016, 11:40
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Smells strategic story leak to me

I expect Lygo wants 10pm free whenever he wants but will air News st 10 when nothing else to show. We will see more new shows slowly but surely.

Essentially the 10pm bulletin time will not be fixed on ITV from now on and increasingly be moved out of the slot through 2017 into 2018 as new commissions arrive.
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Old 01-09-2016, 11:58
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ITV denies it's moving News at Ten – but is 'relaxed' about occasional switches
New director of television Kevin Lygo has no plans to permanently move bulletin, say sources

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ten-kevin-lygo
You do wonder where Broadcast got their original story from. I mean, we're not talking Daily Star here and they must have some good sources. I wonder if there was talk but they seem to have decided not to.

As another post said, they need to work the other way by looking at reducing the soaps and try better than simply moving News at Ten.
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:02
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The idea of a nightly chat show isn't a bad one. However, we already have The One Show and chances are the guests on ITV's nightly one would very often be the same as the ones on the One Show! You could have a daily satirical show that looks at the days events and features guests, music and a "Spitting Image" segment each night.
A cheap way to fill it and one I'm surprused someone hasn't done yet is to import James Corden''s Late Late Show, he''s well known/liked here and the guests although a little American centric wold be far better than we would get- Would do well for them I think?
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:05
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To be fair, the Broadcast article never mentioned about moving the 10pm news permanently but inferred it would be more on an adhoc basis.

So Lygo's denial of moving it permanently is suspiciously specific. It sounds to me like he has plans to just move the news on one night of the week to half 10, and I'd wager it'd be either Tuesday or Friday. By saying "we have no plans to move it permanently" he's not really lying, because they don't, it'd only be one night.
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:09
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You do wonder where Broadcast got their original story from. I mean, we're not talking Daily Star here and they must have some good sources. I wonder if there was talk but they seem to have decided not to.
It's a very weak denial, " no plans " with no direct comment from Lygo. I suspect he is softening ITN and the ITV news at Ten team for the inevitable move.
As you say Broadcast isn't the Daily Star, the fact that Broadcast directly attributed the move to Lygo and not " unnamed shadowy bosses" means a lot imo. I suspect the source is the man himself
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:35
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Fantastic for Bake-Off. Its The X Factor of 2016.

According to Broadcast the opening ep of GBBO has consolidated to over 14m. Incredible. Truly incredible. But I find it hard to imagine more viewers watching the final than last year. Who would still be new to Bake-Off despite it being on, what seven series?

All Star Mr & Mrs did annoyingly well. I had hoped for a low 2m, but seemingly not. DCI Banks did averagely. 4.2m is not bad, but its not good. Escpecially when there are 10m+ watching Bake-Off.

Nadiya is clearly like most winners of these talent series not really that popular. The only known talent show winner to have had much ratings success is Susan Boyle.
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:40
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Fantastic for Bake-Off. Its The X Factor of 2016.

According to Broadcast the opening ep of GBBO has consolidated to over 14m. Incredible. Truly incredible. But I find it hard to imagine more viewers watching the final than last year. Who would still be new to Bake-Off despite it being on, what seven series?
The figure is probably spun to be the peak consolidated audience, whilst also adding in iPlayer & repeat viewings.
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:42
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Fantastic for Bake-Off. Its The X Factor of 2016.

According to Broadcast the opening ep of GBBO has consolidated to over 14m. Incredible. Truly incredible. But I find it hard to imagine more viewers watching the final than last year. Who would still be new to Bake-Off despite it being on, what seven series?

All Star Mr & Mrs did annoyingly well. I had hoped for a low 2m, but seemingly not. DCI Banks did averagely. 4.2m is not bad, but its not good. Escpecially when there are 10m+ watching Bake-Off.

Nadiya is clearly like most winners of these talent series not really that popular. The only known talent show winner to have had much ratings success is Susan Boyle.
I am getting fed up with the attention Nadiya is getting. Why the focus on her? No other Bake-Off winner received the OTT attention she got. It is making me wonder whether the BBC ordered her to be the winner just so they can have a new Asian presenter on their books. Cynical old git that I am!
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:44
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Fantastic for Bake-Off. Its The X Factor of 2016.

According to Broadcast the opening ep of GBBO has consolidated to over 14m. Incredible. Truly incredible. But I find it hard to imagine more viewers watching the final than last year. Who would still be new to Bake-Off despite it being on, what seven series?

All Star Mr & Mrs did annoyingly well. I had hoped for a low 2m, but seemingly not. DCI Banks did averagely. 4.2m is not bad, but its not good. Escpecially when there are 10m+ watching Bake-Off.

Nadiya is clearly like most winners of these talent series not really that popular. The only known talent show winner to have had much ratings success is Susan Boyle.
If you read GBBO thread on here. Still new viewers being attracted in. It's just become must see tv as (nearly) everybody else is watching. Well apart from my Dad who will have been watching Sky Sports!
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:45
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I am getting fed up with the attention Nadiya is getting. Why the focus on her? No other Bake-Off winner received the OTT attention she got. It is making me wonder whether the BBC ordered her to be the winner just so they can have a new Asian presenter on their books. Cynical old git that I am!
Oh dear.
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:46
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Yes, because they wouldn't do that would they?
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:53
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I am getting fed up with the attention Nadiya is getting. Why the focus on her? No other Bake-Off winner received the OTT attention she got. It is making me wonder whether the BBC ordered her to be the winner just so they can have a new Asian presenter on their books. Cynical old git that I am!
I'm sure you're right. Now, let's see if SCD overruns on Saturday to create a clash with X Factor.....
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:57
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I am getting fed up with the attention Nadiya is getting. Why the focus on her? No other Bake-Off winner received the OTT attention she got. It is making me wonder whether the BBC ordered her to be the winner just so they can have a new Asian presenter on their books. Cynical old git that I am!
Yeah but you never know.

But 3.7m out of 10m+ is not really that good is it!? Nadiya does seem to be everywhere though.

I suspect next week Our Girl (which I must say I don't find I am looking forwad to at all unlike last year with Doctor F) will pull in 5m+. I can't se it catching on like DF, but will hold 5m+ given the enourmous lead in.
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:59
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If you read GBBO thread on here. Still new viewers being attracted in. It's just become must see tv as (nearly) everybody else is watching. Well apart from my Dad who will have been watching Sky Sports!
And me who cant stand Mel and Sue
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:59
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I'm sure you're right. Now, let's see if SCD overruns on Saturday to create a clash with X Factor.....
The BBC will run a feature legth trailer of Poldark between PC and SCD meaning SCD overuns. That way they can get many to see the Poldark trailer, plus denting TXF.

Not that TXF isn't weak enough.
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:00
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I am getting fed up with the attention Nadiya is getting. Why the focus on her? No other Bake-Off winner received the OTT attention she got. It is making me wonder whether the BBC ordered her to be the winner just so they can have a new Asian presenter on their books. Cynical old git that I am!
Tina is covering that, she is everywhere.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Daheley
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:03
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Anyone got the ratings for Suspects last night?
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:15
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To be fair, the Broadcast article never mentioned about moving the 10pm news permanently but inferred it would be more on an adhoc basis.
Which they already do anyway. And when they moved it back to 10pm the Friday one was on at 11pm for the first year, until they got bored of filling the 10pm slot, so even moving it on Friday wouldn't be a new thing either.
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:17
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The figure is probably spun to be the peak consolidated audience, whilst also adding in iPlayer & repeat viewings.
The consolidated figures come from BARB who additionally would have nothing to gain by adding an "spin":

Overnights however are not the viewing figures that appear on our website. These are consolidated ratings and include catch-up, or time-shifted, viewing that happened up to seven days after the original broadcast. The consolidated ratings are the BARB gold standard on which the UK broadcasting and advertising industries rely for all reporting and trading.
http://www.barb.co.uk/about-us/how-we-do-what-we-do/

What is the difference between live and consolidated BARB data?

Live data reports viewing that takes place at the time of the original broadcast.

Consolidated data incorporates playback of time-shifted content within 7 days of the original broadcast. This timeshift viewing is added to the live data to produce consolidated viewing data made available 8 days after the original transmission date. Consolidated data is the BARB Gold Standard used by the industry to report and trade on.

Since July 2013 BARB has made available time-shifted viewing up to 28 days after the original transmission. It can be added to the live data. This viewing is not included in the BARB Gold Standard Calculations.
http://www.barb.co.uk/about-us/frequ...ked-questions/
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:22
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Any idea how Victoria is consolidating? We usually gets updates on DW, so is it possible to get a Victoria update from the same source?
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:23
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If you read GBBO thread on here. Still new viewers being attracted in. It's just become must see tv as (nearly) everybody else is watching. Well apart from my Dad who will have been watching Sky Sports!
It was the rise and fall and rise again of Johanna Konta on Eurosport for us.
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:24
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The consolidated figures come from BARB who additionally would have nothing to gain by adding an "spin":

http://www.barb.co.uk/about-us/how-we-do-what-we-do/

http://www.barb.co.uk/about-us/frequ...ked-questions/
Except BARB haven't given any numbers. Broadcast made the bold statement, and they could easily have combined the parts of the BARB data to produce such a dramatic article. It's all about getting maximum clicks.
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:25
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But the difference here is that Daheley is an experienced journalist and is capable of doing the job without being a competition winner who happens to be Asian. Had that chap won Bake Off last year, I bet we wouldn't have seen him on telly since his victory.
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:28
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GBBO has to be watched otherwise you are weird these days.
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Old 01-09-2016, 13:29
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Except BARB haven't given any numbers. Broadcast made the bold statement, and they could easily have combined the parts of the BARB data to produce such a dramatic article. It's all about getting maximum clicks.
Ah, I see what you mean.

ETA But surely last week's consolidated figures should be available from BARB by now?
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