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MBB Live felt very strangely scheduled tonight, almost 'plonked' in the middle of the summer wasteland. Given that it's meant to part of the sitcom season, you'd think the BBC would have wanted it to go out alongside other programming from the strand, maybe after the Olympics late next month
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It is strange, and to me seems likely that this wasn't the original plan.
The original rationale for the season was to celebrate the 60th Anniversary of the first TV Hancocks Half Hour in July 1956 - and it was always stated that the season would be in 'summer', so I assumed all the revivals and everything else would be coming this month too. Perhaps they had to delay the rest of the season for some reason (production delays. etc) - but weren't able to push back the live MBB because of the team's schedule? |
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These are the overnight ratings for the previous two Mrs Brown's Boys specials as a comparison. Would be interesting to see the share last night's episode had.
Christmas Day (2015) - 6.41m (27.7%) New Year's Day (2016) - 5.58m (31.7%)
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Impressive for MBB one of the ratings of the summer so far. 36.9% is a brilliant share! See BBC you can have good ratings in the Summer Saturdays if you take a risk. Maybe a Summer Sitcom might be an avenue for BBC to explore rather than LE. I see 5* Family Reunion didn't rate that well if Musketeers got 2.4M. Who Dares Wins needs to come back as I think it is the best lottery show.
Robot Wars back after 12 years. What do we think? I was a bit conservative in the RPG but I think it could do either low 2M or it will soar into possibly 4M if the stars align a low 5M. I hope it does brilliantly and I hope Dara doesn't ruin it, but he seems like the type to make it somewhat educational so he might be good. |
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Wowsers!! Thanks Dancc. Will be fascinating to see the final rating for Mrs Brown's Boys Live.
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Impressive for MBB one of the ratings of the summer so far. 36.9% is a brilliant share! See BBC you can have good ratings in the Summer Saturdays if you take a risk. Maybe a Summer Sitcom might be an avenue for BBC to explore rather than LE. I see 5* Family Reunion didn't rate that well if Musketeers got 2.4M. Who Dares Wins needs to come back as I think it is the best lottery show.
Robot Wars back after 12 years. What do we think? I was a bit conservative in the RPG but I think it could do either low 2M or it will soar into possibly 4M if the stars align a low 5M. I hope it does brilliantly and I hope Dara doesn't ruin it, but he seems like the type to make it somewhat educational so he might be good. I agree about more sitcoms. But they can't get popular stuff right. |
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I see 5* Family Reunion didn't rate that well if Musketeers got 2.4M.
Last night's Family Reunion was the first of eight in series two, whereas next week's is the eighth of eight in series one (held over from last year), so it'll be interesting to see whether they pick up Family Reunion series two after the Olympics, or go straight into the new series of Who Dares Wins. Good rating for Mrs Brown's Boys last night, but I'd forgotten the Christmas Day overnight from last year. I thought it'd had got 7m, but that must have been the previous year.
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Especially good rating for MBB as I know a couple of people who told me today they forgot it was 'a new one' and as they did not watch Musketeers watced the ITV film instead,
The scheduling was a bit odd and might have been dictated by schedules for the cast to do it live? The way it ended plugging BBC comedy shows of the past means it had to be intended to lead into that series, surely. I seem to recall that July/August was the original time frame for that season. Some were filmed a while ago (like the Are you being served? remake) but they only just announced the new episode of Goodnight, Sweetheart which seems to have been a last minute addition. Whilst (as I have mentioned on here over the years) the writers always wanted to do more of this show and have had several attempts to turn it into a West End musical that might still happen there was no hint that this was imminent. So perhaps something else did not pan out and they drafted this in as there was a delay to the scheduling. I suspect that this and the Benidorm flavoured Are you being served? are the two most likely to be more than one offs and could become viable new series. Goodnight, Sweetheart is the only new thing involving original cast and writers isn't it? |
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Incidentally it has been announced that the new Star Trek series will be called Star Trek: Discovery and will be set in the TV universe not the new one created for the movies. A teaser trailer showing the new ship went on line at midnight.
It launches on Netflix in January in 166 countries on the same day (everywhere showing it other than the US and Canada) which might be an interesting first day rating. |
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Especially good rating for MBB as I know a couple of people who told me today they forgot it was 'a new one' and as they did not watch Musketeers watced the ITV film instead,
The scheduling was a bit odd and might have been dictated by schedules for the cast to do it live? The way it ended plugging BBC comedy shows of the past means it had to be intended to lead into that series, surely. I seem to recall that July/August was the original time frame for that season. Some were filmed a while ago (like the Are you being served? remake) but they only just announced the new episode of Goodnight, Sweetheart which seems to have been a last minute addition. Whilst (as I have mentioned on here over the years) the writers always wanted to do more of this show and have had several attempts to turn it into a West End musical that might still happen there was no hint that this was imminent. So perhaps something else did not pan out and they drafted this in as there was a delay to the scheduling. I suspect that this and the Benidorm flavoured Are you being served? are the two most likely to be more than one offs and could become viable new series. Goodnight, Sweetheart is the only new thing involving original cast and writers isn't it? |
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Masterchef and its endless variants does seem to take up a vast amount of air time, both in terms of weeks being shown, and hours each week. I bet it's close to The X Factor in total.
It's like Watchdog - it's an hour now, but only has two ten week runs a year. In the nineties it was only half an hour but ran every week for about eight months (and it had a load of spin-offs as well). And people want lots of their favourite shows. I guarantee you that a load of people will have complained to the BBC last night that Casualty wasn't on, despite the fact it's on virtually every Saturday of the year. People want things they like to run forever. I know it's not the most romantic suggestion but if the audience if there and it's a format you know people like, you have to go for it. But this does not mean that there isn't room for other stuff in the schedules. Different to the old days when there was virtually nothing in daytime and new shows more or less packed up at 10pm. Quote:
I can't see ITV's Dance, Dance, Dance doing anything other than flop.
If its a dance show its immediately going to be compared to SCD and you really cannot beat SCD is terms of entertainment value for viewers. Quote:
I should stress that there's nothing confirmed about Let's Dance, I just saw it mentioned in a comment on Broadcast (and the comments there are usually left by those working in the industry) so may not be happening. It would fit nicely into the schedules though, 8 weeks of Let it Shine into 4 weeks of Let's Dance would take them to the end of March which is pretty much when The Voice ran till (and Let's Dance would end on Comic Relief weekend).
It wouldn't be so bad, some people on this thread seemed to have a bit of a blind spot for it and demand its continual axing because it was "tired" but we only had 21 episodes over five years, and since then loads more people have become famous and there are loads more dances they could do. I'd rather see that back than most LE formats of recent years. Quote:
I'm surprised at the complete lack of any build up or promotion, bar a run of the mill trailer. When a usually recorded show goes live there is usually loads of promotion. There wasn't even an item on Breakfast.
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It is strange, and to me seems likely that this wasn't the original plan.
The original rationale for the season was to celebrate the 60th Anniversary of the first TV Hancocks Half Hour in July 1956 - and it was always stated that the season would be in 'summer', so I assumed all the revivals and everything else would be coming this month too. Perhaps they had to delay the rest of the season for some reason (production delays. etc) - but weren't able to push back the live MBB because of the team's schedule? Quote:
It's my least favourite lottery show, but I'd like the other three quizzes to return. Who Dares Wins is definitely returning for 13 editions this year.
Last night's Family Reunion was the first of eight in series two, whereas next week's is the eighth of eight in series one (held over from last year), so it'll be interesting to see whether they pick up Family Reunion series two after the Olympics, or go straight into the new series of Who Dares Wins. But I can't believe we're still having this argument about lottery shows, over twenty years on. It is blatantly obvious that people don't just want the numbers because when the show is just the numbers it rates incredibly badly, and of course on Wednesdays now they don't even televise the draw, they just read it out. So clearly people don't watch the lottery shows to get the numbers, they watch them because they're half decent quizzes in their own right. Some are better than others, but that is the case with all quizzes, and the good ones last and the crap ones get axed. I watch the good ones, I can take or leave the others. And that's been the case with Saturday night BBC1 for fifty years, there's always been quizzes in the schedule, some good, some bad. And still people are complaining they "have to watch them" for the numbers! After twenty years, who hasn't realised they can just turn on five minutes before the end? |
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Especially good rating for MBB as I know a couple of people who told me today they forgot it was 'a new one' and as they did not watch Musketeers watced the ITV film instead,
The scheduling was a bit odd and might have been dictated by schedules for the cast to do it live? The way it ended plugging BBC comedy shows of the past means it had to be intended to lead into that series, surely. I seem to recall that July/August was the original time frame for that season. Some were filmed a while ago (like the Are you being served? remake) but they only just announced the new episode of Goodnight, Sweetheart which seems to have been a last minute addition. Whilst (as I have mentioned on here over the years) the writers always wanted to do more of this show and have had several attempts to turn it into a West End musical that might still happen there was no hint that this was imminent. So perhaps something else did not pan out and they drafted this in as there was a delay to the scheduling. I suspect that this and the Benidorm flavoured Are you being served? are the two most likely to be more than one offs and could become viable new series. Goodnight, Sweetheart is the only new thing involving original cast and writers isn't it? I can see them hoping to produce series of the new Porridge, Goodnight Sweetheart and the Keeping Up Appearances prequel. KUA writer Roy Clarke has form in this area, In the late 80s the Last Of the Summer Wine prequel First Of The Summer Wine ran for two series and like the KUA prequel began with a one-off pilot episode. I can also envisage BBC4 remaking more lost Hancock episodes as Radio 4 has now made two series of lost radio episodes. Kevin McNally does a superb Hancock voice and doesn't look too dissimilar either. Incidentally Start/Stop begins its third series on Radio 4 this Friday. That was one of the three comedies in the recent series of Comedy playhouse on BBC1. Does anybody know if any of those pilots has been taken up as a series? |
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Fantastic rating for MBB! Quote:
What's going on with these hour long Tuesday Emmerdales? They've run them for about five weeks on the trot now, there's another this week, and another scheduled for next week (2 August) they caught up with the lost episodes from the euros a while back, so I'm not sure why they are producing 7 episodes a week at the moment?
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It was on the cover of the Radio Times, and at least one other listings magazine.
However MBB was number 1 in their shortlist of 40 whilst the others were arranged in alphabetical order, because there was an accompanying article to promote the live episode which was RT's Comedy of the Week. Also it was heavily promoted with a trailer on the BBC which clearly stated it was a live episode. The ratings suggest that people knew. A pretty impressive figure for such an obscure, somewhat-random slot. It should easily be above 7.5m in the 7-day consolidated. It may even get above 8m. |
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Fantastic rating for MBB!
According to the provisionals, there's another one scheduled on 9th August too! That would make it 7 consecutive Tuesday clashes. Could you imagine if it were the BBC doing this to Emmerdale ![]() |
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5 Star Family Reunion is my least favourite too. One reason is that I think the name is appalling, it sounds like the kind of thing you'd make up as a twelve year old inventing your own TV schedules.
The announcer on BBC One Wales referred to it as "The Lottery quiz" last night.
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The first TV Hancock was broadcast live on July 6, 1956. The legendary Blood Donor episode was recorded at Riverside and broadcast on June 23, 1961.
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All eyes on BBC Two's figures in the morning, then. A chance to put recent disappointments (*cough* Top Gear *cough*) firmly behind them.
Elsewhere, nice to see the US version of Lip Sync Battle return to peak time Channel 5 tonight with a special first aired on Spike yesterday to celebrate the UK release of Star Trek Beyond (bit of a connection there with it being a Paramount title). |
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6.5m (37%) is fantastic in that slot. I really enjoyed it and it's easy to see why it has become so popular in the UK. It's just a shame they don't produce more episodes. Quote:
Fantastic rating for MBB!
According to the provisionals, there's another one scheduled on 9th August too! That would make it 7 consecutive Tuesday clashes. Could you imagine if it were the BBC doing this to Emmerdale ![]() Quote:
And yet Emmerdale suffers too. Im sure they could engineer an 8.00 showing on Tuesdays if they wanted to. I don't think they do though, they want to harass Eastenders and the ultimate end game imo is keeping Coronation Street as far as possible ahead as the number one soap.
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Don't forget there are two MBB specials over Christmas
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I wonder how the lottery quizzes would rate if they didn't contain the lottery. Considering how separate the draws are these days, with no cross over between the quiz and the draw, I bet they'd rate very similar. Hardly anyone will be sitting through the quiz just to see the numbers in this day and age. Quote:
There are fans on the soap forum struggling to keep up and thus aren't watching on the night.
ITV now increase the soaps a bit in the summer to boost drama hours, as they know it will rate better than airing an extra stand alone drama at 9pm in the summer. I seem to recall lots of extra EastEnders at Christmas which then went on well into January, which nobody seemed outraged about. In fact they loved it because it was a "Massive episode" every week according to the soaps forum. |
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I seem to recall lots of extra EastEnders at Christmas which then went on well into January, which nobody seemed outraged about. In fact they loved it because it was a "Massive episode" every week according to the soaps forum.
Wednesday 23rd December - extra 30 min episode Thursday 24th December - as normal Friday 25th December - additional 30 mins (1 hour episode) Saturday 26th December - extra 30 min episode Monday 28th December - as normal Tuesday 29th December - as normal Thursday 31st December - no episode Friday 1st January - 2 episodes (to compensate for no episode on Thursday 31/12) Monday 4th January - as normal Tuesday 5th January - as normal Wednesday 6th January - episode airing in place of Friday 08/01 Thursday 7th January - as normal Friday 8th January - no episode |
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If it was on on a different night they'd have a point, but it's hardly much of a hardship to keep up with a programme which is on at the exact same time as normal, just twice as long. ITV now increase the soaps a bit in the summer to boost drama hours, as they know it will rate better than airing an extra stand alone drama at 9pm in the summer. I seem to recall lots of extra EastEnders at Christmas which then went on well into January, which nobody seemed outraged about. In fact they loved it because it was a "Massive episode" every week according to the soaps forum. For that reason, it was good to see EastEnders ahead of Emmerdale in the Tuesday ratings this week. **Clearly they meant those only those viewers who own shares in ITV or work as an ITV executive.
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I notice that the Christmas Day Mrs Brown's Boys added 3m viewers in 7-day timeshift. Is it likely to timeshift as much this time?
Me and Mum recorded MBB last night because Mum likes to go to bed dead at 10pm and anyway there was nothing on tonight that we wanted to watch. We also watched Friday Night Dinner, recorded on Friday for the same reason. I don't think anyone would lose anything not watching MBB live. It's enough to know that it was broadcast live. |
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The issue is not so much the extra episode as the soap clash. Orchestrated by a channel that kept complaining that Strictly overlapping with X Factor, was unfair on the viewers**.
Can't have it both ways. |
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I don't think it was "lots". In terms of the three week festive period, it actually amounted to an additional 90 minutes of EastEnders across that period. Some episodes were broadcast out of slot to compensate for the fact there was no EastEnders on New Year's Eve or Friday 8th January:
Monday 4th January - as normal Tuesday 5th January - as normal Wednesday 6th January - episode airing in place of Friday 08/01 Thursday 7th January - as normal Friday 8th January - no episode |
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