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Old 08-09-2016, 09:41
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Not that bizarre when one was made by Thames and the other by LWT, who hated each other.
So bitter in fact that when Christmas Day fell on a weekend LWT refused to show the Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show from Thames and it had to run on a weekday.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:44
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That looks a bit disappointing for Our Girl given the lead-in. It seemed to get a lot of promotion too. Having said that it still won the slot so it looks like a poor result for DCI Banks.

Another stonking Bake Off number. I was perhaps a little surprised to see it below 10m but that's just because of how high we're used to seeing it - it's an amazing rating still.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:44
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Overnights.tv ‏@overnightstv 14s14 seconds ago
#GBBO bread week rose to the occasion with 9.7m/44.7% on BBC1 from 8pm @LoveProdHouse @PaulHollywood http://www.overnights.tv

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BBC drama #OurGirl returned and conquered at 9pm, winning the slot with 3.8m/19.5% http://www.overnights.tv
That's low for Our Girl, but as it won the slot that means other channels we're disappointingly low too.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:46
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Not that bizarre when one was made by Thames and the other by LWT, who hated each other.
So bitter in fact that when Christmas Day fell on a weekend LWT refused to show the Morecambe and Wise Christmas Show from Thames and it had to run on a weekday.
Thames and LWT used to argue over film premieres too. It was very petty between them.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:47
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DCI Banks: 2.69m EXCLUDING HD / excluding +1
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:49
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Ray do you have GBBO and Our Girl to 2dp?

I agree with Score, still a brilliant number for Bake Off despite a drop. Because we've become used to 10m overnights which, really, is incredible.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:50
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Channel 4 Press ‏@C4Press 1m1 minute ago
The #Paralympics Opening Ceremony peaked with 2.3m viewers last night and attracted a peak share of over 19% of the TV audience
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:51
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What did last years bread week get?
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:56
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BBC1
The Great British Bake Off: 9.68m (44.7%)
Our Girl: 3.77m (19.5%)
BBC News (10pm): 3.71m (22.9%)

BBC2
Great British Menu: 1.32m (7.3%)
Natural World: My Congo: 1.07m (5.5%)
Skies Above Britain: 0.92m (4.2%)

BBC4
Operation Crossbow (R): 0.47m (2.4%)
Catching History's Criminals: the Forensics Story (R): 0.27m (1.8%)
The Boats That Built Britain (R): 0.24m (1.3%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
The Last Leg: Welcome to Rio: 0.65m (3.0%)
Channel 4 News: 0.47m (2.8%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: 1.45m (7.5%)
Undercover: Nailing the Fraudsters: 0.77m (5.2%)
GPs: Behind Closed Doors: 0.76m (3.5%)

E4 (exc. +1)
Hollyoaks: 0.63m (3.9%)
Containment: 0.26m (1.3%)
Celebs Go Dating: 0.25m (1.7%)
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:58
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That looks a bit disappointing for Our Girl given the lead-in. It seemed to get a lot of promotion too. Having said that it still won the slot so it looks like a poor result for DCI Banks.

Another stonking Bake Off number. I was perhaps a little surprised to see it below 10m but that's just because of how high we're used to seeing it - it's an amazing rating still.
Bake Off had a 45.1% share last week compared to its 44.7% share. Hardly any movement at all. A shame it didn't crack the magic 10.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:58
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That's low for Our Girl, but as it won the slot that means other channels we're disappointingly low too.
Our Girl just isn't a natural fit with GBBO in the way Doctor Foster so obviously was. Plus it's another of those BBC One series that was recommissioned despite not really making that much of a splash first time round. Not surprised by that rating at all - but I suppose there's some consolation in it beating DCI Banks (surely the final series of that in any case?).
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:03
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DCI Banks is certain for the axe. Stephen Tompkinson is good on Wild At Heart, but serious drama DCI Banks, he just doesn't work.

Pretty low for Our Girl. That's not likely to get a 3rd series, given its likely to drop a bit over the series. Shame. I'm not quite sure what's happening with BBC drama. The only recent drama over 5m has been Poldark.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:06
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Excluding +1:

Ross Kemp: Extreme World (Sky 1): 0.16m (0.8%)
The Force: Essex (Sky 1): 0.14m (1.0%)
Hell's Kitchen (ITV2): 0.13m (0.7%)
Shades of Blue (Sky Living): 0.09m (0.5%)
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:16
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Looks like two dramas will underperform on the Wednesday 9pm slot for another 4/5 weeks.

Our Girl is a big contrast from last years Doctor Foster.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:16
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I wonder if the BBC considered putting Bake off and Poldark together that would have worked.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:25
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BBC2
Great British Menu: 1.32m (7.3%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
The Last Leg: Welcome to Rio: 0.65m (3.0%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: 1.45m (7.5%)
Undercover: Nailing the Fraudsters: 0.77m (5.2%)
GPs: Behind Closed Doors: 0.76m (3.5%)
Thanks Ray.

An impressive rating for Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away at 9pm on Channel 5 against double drama. The Last Leg bombed and it's only a matter of time until The Great British Menu becomes an hour long 8pm show.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:27
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DCI Banks is certain for the axe. Stephen Tompkinson is good on Wild At Heart, but serious drama DCI Banks, he just doesn't work.

Pretty low for Our Girl. That's not likely to get a 3rd series, given its likely to drop a bit over the series. Shame. I'm not quite sure what's happening with BBC drama. The only recent drama over 5m has been Poldark.
Since The Night Manager ended no BBC1 drama has held an audience of 6m across a series. ITV drama has been much better than BBC1 drama over the last few months.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:31
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Since The Night Manager ended no BBC1 drama has held an audience of 6m across a series. ITV drama has been much better than BBC1 drama over the last few months.

Which dramas have BBC1 still to come later this year? I can't think of any?
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:33
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I wonder if the BBC considered putting Bake off and Poldark together that would have worked.
Not likely. I suspect Poldark was earmarked for a Sunday September launch the minute DA was announced as ending. That is why the BBC announced the return of Poldark early.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:38
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Which dramas have BBC1 still to come later this year? I can't think of any?
10 Rillington Place and The Missing 2 spring to mind. Kwynne has a list.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:38
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BBC drama #OurGirl returned and conquered at 9pm, winning the slot with 3.8m/19.5% http://www.overnights.tv
Not surprised. The show was a success cause of Lacey's character - dropped 28% from Series 1 opener, 5.3m.

Breakdown of Series 1 opener;

Our Girl:

21:00 - 4.96m (18.9%)
21:15 - 4.90m (19.0%)
21:30 - 5.09m (19.7%)
21:45 - 5.31m (21.1%)
22:00 - 5.98m (26.4%)
22:15 - 5.78m (26.8%)


Keegan remains a poor actress and shouldn't have been the actress to replace Turner.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:38
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Since The Night Manager ended no BBC1 drama has held an audience of 6m across a series. ITV drama has been much better than BBC1 drama over the last few months.
It's a problem, I agree, and a reflection of the exodus of people leaving the BBC, plus a lack of leadership all round. I also find it bizarre that a channel that can broadcast LTIH, CTM and DIP - different shows but very clearly aimed at mainstream audiences and successful - can then not apply the principle of popular drama to other commissions.

That has been a problem for several years now, but ITV's inability to get its act together for a long time meant that it wasn't so noticeable. But, inevitably, the pendulum was always going to swing back in ITV's favour at some point, and that's now happening. And with Piers Wenger apparently not joining until January 2017, I suspect things may deteriorate for BBC drama, rather than improve …
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:45
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I suspect that the state of BBC One's drama may be less to do with budget cuts and more with a lack of leadership at the top …

Many of the BBC's successes at the start of the year (TNM, W&P, HV2) came to the fore under Ben Stephenson's leadership. While there may be lots of questions about that, and a number of flops to his name, he managed to cover those with enough successes … and that purple patch BBC drama seemed to have at the start of the year no doubt helped.

Before Stephenson left for Hollywood, there was talk of him barely being in the UK (obviously setting up his next gig) … so we have absent boss syndrome. There is also the question of how much his successor Polly Hill was actually responsible for at BBC drama: although she cannily got her name on some of those hits from the start of the year, there's very little known about what decisions she took as head of drama (beyond appointing a new exec for EE and a new show runner for DW). After all, she didn't really stick around for long …

Add to that the chaos of the channel controller jobs disappearing, the renewal of series that didn't actually perform that well in the first place (In The Club, Ordinary Lies, The A Word), other hit series not returning as soon as would have been ideal (LTIH) and the perennial identity problem for BBC One drama (too many that look like they should actually be on BBC2), and it's no wonder what's coming up on-screen looks patchy.
Prolly Hill worked with the indies at the BBC so helped get a few of those hits on. BBC1 drama has been strange this year, from brilliant at the start of the year to average now.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:49
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It's a problem, I agree, and a reflection of the exodus of people leaving the BBC, plus a lack of leadership all round. I also find it bizarre that a channel that can broadcast LTIH, CTM and DIP - different shows but very clearly aimed at mainstream audiences and successful - can then not apply the principle of popular drama to other commissions.

That has been a problem for several years now, but ITV's inability to get its act together for a long time meant that it wasn't so noticeable. But, inevitably, the pendulum was always going to swing back in ITV's favour at some point, and that's now happening. And with Piers Wenger apparently not joining until January 2017, I suspect things may deteriorate for BBC drama, rather than improve …
Piers Wenger was due to start in September. Has his start date been pushed back?

ITV drama has improved and it's down mainly to outgoing drama chief Steve November's commissions working. History will be kinder to him now when we look back at his tenure.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:52
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10 Rillington Place and The Missing 2 spring to mind. Kwynne has a list.
Of course. I don't think the former with do much ratings wise, but The MIssing should be a solid banker for the Tuesday slot.
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