All Star Mr & Mrs 2.9m (13%)
DCI Banks 3.4m (18%)
DCI Banks 3.4m (18%)
The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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From ITV Media:
Wednesday Top 10 (inc. +1)
1 BBC One - 08:00 PM The Great British Bake Off 9.683m 45%
2 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 6.130m 34%
3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.526m 34%
4 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 4.336m 29%
5 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 4.093m 30%
6 BBC One - 09:00 PM Our Girl 3.775m 20%
7 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 3.706m 23%
8 ITV - 09:00 PM DCI Banks 3.417m 18%
9 BBC One - 10:30 PM Regional News and Weather 2.999m 21%
10 ITV - 08:00 PM All Star Mr & Mrs 2.909m 13%
Wednesday Top 10 (inc. +1) (not including the five main channels)
1 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 725k 4.5%
2 E4 - 06:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 474k 3.2%
3 BBC Four - 09:00 PM Operation Crossbow 470k 2.4%
4 Drama - 09:00 PM Death in Paradise 427k 2.2%
5 Sky Sports 1 - 06:00 PM Live T20 Cricket 411k 2.3%
6 E4 - 10:00 PM Celebs Go Dating 375k 2.5%
7 Dave - 10:00 PM Room 101: 374k 2.4%
8 Eurosport - 09:30 PM Live US Open 359k 2.8%
9 5* - 06:30 PM Home and Away 347k 2.4%
10 CBeebies - 07:50 AM Octonauts 345k 6.5%
Wednesday Top 10 (inc. +1)
1 BBC One - 08:00 PM The Great British Bake Off 9.683m 45%
2 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 6.130m 34%
3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.526m 34%
4 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 4.336m 29%
5 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 4.093m 30%
6 BBC One - 09:00 PM Our Girl 3.775m 20%
7 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 3.706m 23%
8 ITV - 09:00 PM DCI Banks 3.417m 18%
9 BBC One - 10:30 PM Regional News and Weather 2.999m 21%
10 ITV - 08:00 PM All Star Mr & Mrs 2.909m 13%
Wednesday Top 10 (inc. +1) (not including the five main channels)
1 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 725k 4.5%
2 E4 - 06:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 474k 3.2%
3 BBC Four - 09:00 PM Operation Crossbow 470k 2.4%
4 Drama - 09:00 PM Death in Paradise 427k 2.2%
5 Sky Sports 1 - 06:00 PM Live T20 Cricket 411k 2.3%
6 E4 - 10:00 PM Celebs Go Dating 375k 2.5%
7 Dave - 10:00 PM Room 101: 374k 2.4%
8 Eurosport - 09:30 PM Live US Open 359k 2.8%
9 5* - 06:30 PM Home and Away 347k 2.4%
10 CBeebies - 07:50 AM Octonauts 345k 6.5%
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Prolly Hill worked with the indies at the BBC so helped get a few of those hits on. BBC1 drama has been strange this year, from brilliant at the start of the year to average now.”
“Prolly Hill worked with the indies at the BBC so helped get a few of those hits on. BBC1 drama has been strange this year, from brilliant at the start of the year to average now.”
The two best new BBC One dramas this year were US co-productions. The extra budget showed in both Night Manager and War & Peace.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“All Star Mr & Mrs 2.9m (13%)
DCI Banks 3.4m (18%)”
“All Star Mr & Mrs 2.9m (13%)
DCI Banks 3.4m (18%)”
New lower standards for ITV Drama? 3.4 actually seems decent to me, which is shocking when not long ago, 6m would be considered a failure.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Of course. I don't think the former with do much ratings wise, but The MIssing should be a solid banker for the Tuesday slot.”
“Of course. I don't think the former with do much ratings wise, but The MIssing should be a solid banker for the Tuesday slot.”
Ordinary Lies will be coming up soon to.
I wonder how Paranoid with Scott & Bailey's, Lesley Sharp, will perform.
I'm predicting Marcella numbers, maybe slightly off.
I'm predicting Marcella numbers, maybe slightly off.
Originally Posted by NicoleRich:
“I wonder how Paranoid with Scott & Bailey's, Lesley Sharp, will perform.
I'm predicting Marcella numbers, maybe slightly off.”
“I wonder how Paranoid with Scott & Bailey's, Lesley Sharp, will perform.
I'm predicting Marcella numbers, maybe slightly off.”
Dark Angel and Tutankhamun coming up to.
Originally Posted by NicoleRich:
“I wonder how Paranoid with Scott & Bailey's, Lesley Sharp, will perform.
I'm predicting Marcella numbers, maybe slightly off.”
“I wonder how Paranoid with Scott & Bailey's, Lesley Sharp, will perform.
I'm predicting Marcella numbers, maybe slightly off.”
I think so to. Looks more likely to do well than recent BBC1 dramas.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Piers Wenger was due to start in September. Has his start date been pushed back?
ITV drama has improved and it's down mainly to outgoing drama chief Steve November's commissions working. History will be kinder to him now when we look back at his tenure.”
“Piers Wenger was due to start in September. Has his start date been pushed back?
ITV drama has improved and it's down mainly to outgoing drama chief Steve November's commissions working. History will be kinder to him now when we look back at his tenure.”
I agree. November had some howlers with Beowulf, Jekyll & Hyde, Jericho and Midwinter of The Spirit, but he's also responsible for The Durrells, Victoria, Maigret, Grantchester, Cilla, Marcella and the Cold Feet revival. So not a bad slate given that all of those averaged/are averaging 6 million + in consolidated figures. I guess you could say he's not had that one huge, Downton/Midwife sized hit. They don't come around very often but with Downton gone and Doc Martin not as big as it was they don't have that one huge show now.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Piers Wenger was due to start in September. Has his start date been pushed back?
ITV drama has improved and it's down mainly to outgoing drama chief Steve November's commissions working. History will be kinder to him now when we look back at his tenure.”
“Piers Wenger was due to start in September. Has his start date been pushed back?
ITV drama has improved and it's down mainly to outgoing drama chief Steve November's commissions working. History will be kinder to him now when we look back at his tenure.”
I have been told by someone who works at the BBC that it's January. But they need Wenger sooner - if he can provide the leadership they require, that is …
Steve November's stock is strangely high at the moment - but I have no idea what he is doing after having been shown the door by Kevin Lygo … and if he wanted to set up an indie, I can't see him getting much away with ITV, given the alleged animosity there.
Originally Posted by Score:
“I agree. November had some howlers with Beowulf, Jekyll & Hyde, Jericho and Midwinter of The Spirit, but he's also responsible for The Durrells, Victoria, Maigret, Grantchester, Cilla, Marcella and the Cold Feet revival. So not a bad slate given that all of those averaged/are averaging 6 million + in consolidated figures. I guess you could say he's not had that one huge, Downton/Midwife sized hit. They don't come around very often but with Downton gone and Doc Martin not as big as it was they don't have that one huge show now.”
“I agree. November had some howlers with Beowulf, Jekyll & Hyde, Jericho and Midwinter of The Spirit, but he's also responsible for The Durrells, Victoria, Maigret, Grantchester, Cilla, Marcella and the Cold Feet revival. So not a bad slate given that all of those averaged/are averaging 6 million + in consolidated figures. I guess you could say he's not had that one huge, Downton/Midwife sized hit. They don't come around very often but with Downton gone and Doc Martin not as big as it was they don't have that one huge show now.”
It has to be said that November's predecessor Laura Mackie's tenure at ITV did not really begin well, with the likes of The Palace, Rock Rivals, Harley Street, Identity, Eternal Law and Whistleblowers - it was only really DA that saved her bacon and marked a turning point for her fortunes.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“I have been told by someone who works at the BBC that it's January. But they need Wenger sooner - if he can provide the leadership they require, that is …
Steve November's stock is strangely high at the moment - but I have no idea what he is doing after having been shown the door by Kevin Lygo … and if he wanted to set up an indie, I can't see him getting much away with ITV, given the alleged animosity there.”
“I have been told by someone who works at the BBC that it's January. But they need Wenger sooner - if he can provide the leadership they require, that is …
Steve November's stock is strangely high at the moment - but I have no idea what he is doing after having been shown the door by Kevin Lygo … and if he wanted to set up an indie, I can't see him getting much away with ITV, given the alleged animosity there.”
Yes, Laura Mackie and Sally Haynes must have left on relatively good terms given that they're getting commissions from ITV, but if November left on a sour note (which I assume must have been the case) then he might struggle.
It's a pity for him that the last shows of his to air whilst he was in the job were such failures and since he left a load of his commissions have done well. If Paranoid does well this Autumn as well then he'll definitely be bitter.
Also that's a poor rating for DCI Banks last night. Wonder why it dropped so much from last week as Our Girl wasn't up to much? I suspect it'll be shown the door after this run if things don't improve. ITV seem to be bringing through quite a few crime titles in the next year so there isn't room for things that don't rate.
Originally Posted by Score:
“I agree. November had some howlers with Beowulf, Jekyll & Hyde, Jericho and Midwinter of The Spirit, but he's also responsible for The Durrells, Victoria, Maigret, Grantchester, Cilla, Marcella and the Cold Feet revival. So not a bad slate given that all of those averaged/are averaging 6 million + in consolidated figures. I guess you could say he's not had that one huge, Downton/Midwife sized hit. They don't come around very often but with Downton gone and Doc Martin not as big as it was they don't have that one huge show now.”
“I agree. November had some howlers with Beowulf, Jekyll & Hyde, Jericho and Midwinter of The Spirit, but he's also responsible for The Durrells, Victoria, Maigret, Grantchester, Cilla, Marcella and the Cold Feet revival. So not a bad slate given that all of those averaged/are averaging 6 million + in consolidated figures. I guess you could say he's not had that one huge, Downton/Midwife sized hit. They don't come around very often but with Downton gone and Doc Martin not as big as it was they don't have that one huge show now.”
And let's not forget that Beowulf and Jekyll & Hyde came from a Kevin Lygo run ITV Studios and he said he wanted them to be as big as the BBC's Merlin and Doctor Who. November can't take all the blame for those duds.
November has commissioned some hits that get 6/7/8m. I find that the ones that start at 6m grow over time. Look at Death In Paradise as an example. When a drama holds a decent audience, like recent ITV ones have, then they have potential to grow.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“It has to be said that November's predecessor Laura Mackie's tenure at ITV did not really begin well, with the likes of The Palace, Rock Rivals, Harley Street, Identity, Eternal Law and Whistleblowers - it was only really DA that saved her bacon and marked a turning point for her fortunes.”
“It has to be said that November's predecessor Laura Mackie's tenure at ITV did not really begin well, with the likes of The Palace, Rock Rivals, Harley Street, Identity, Eternal Law and Whistleblowers - it was only really DA that saved her bacon and marked a turning point for her fortunes.”
I'd agree with that, the start of Mackie's tenure was a disaster, but Downton definitely turned things around. After that she also had Broadchurch, Scott & Bailey, Law & Order UK, DCI Banks, Whitechapel, Mr Selfridge, Vera and Endeavour. They aren't all still around and there's a lot of crime but she did get hits through in the end (along with some clangers like Breathless, Homefront and Monroe).
Overnights a year ago (Wednesday 9 September 2015):
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/great-b...ct-94-million/
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/coro...arlows-arrest/
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/great-b...ct-94-million/
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/coro...arlows-arrest/
Originally Posted by Score:
“I'd agree with that, the start of Mackie's tenure was a disaster, but Downton definitely turned things around. After that she also had Broadchurch, Scott & Bailey, Law & Order UK, DCI Banks, Whitechapel, Mr Selfridge, Vera and Endeavour. They aren't all still around and there's a lot of crime but she did get hits through in the end (along with some clangers like Breathless, Homefront and Monroe).”
“I'd agree with that, the start of Mackie's tenure was a disaster, but Downton definitely turned things around. After that she also had Broadchurch, Scott & Bailey, Law & Order UK, DCI Banks, Whitechapel, Mr Selfridge, Vera and Endeavour. They aren't all still around and there's a lot of crime but she did get hits through in the end (along with some clangers like Breathless, Homefront and Monroe).”
I think Breathless and Homefront were November's commissions. Monroe was definitely Mackie's, though … and another disaster (also featuring: Married Single Other).
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Thank you for all these old ratings, Ray.
It really fell off a cliff when Les Dawson did it. I liked Les, but the BBC didn't really know what to do with him after Blankety Blank bit the dust.
”
“Thank you for all these old ratings, Ray.
It really fell off a cliff when Les Dawson did it. I liked Les, but the BBC didn't really know what to do with him after Blankety Blank bit the dust.
”
Indeed. Remember "Fast Friends"?
http://www.ukgameshows.com/ukgs/Fast_Friends
Don't know why BB bit the dust. It was still great as was Les right to the end.
With Our Girl getting just 3.8 million despite so much promotion and following on from the monster ratings of GBBO, it really makes you wonder why on earth the BBC axed New Tricks which even though it had fallen a lot from it's height was still getting 4.5-5.5 million roughly in it's overnights at the same time period last year on a Tuesday without much promotion nor follow in...
Originally Posted by alex 1:
“With Our Girl getting just 3.8 million despite so much promotion and following on from the monster ratings of GBBO, it really makes you wonder why on earth the BBC axed New Tricks which even though it had fallen a lot from it's height was still getting 4.5-5.5 million roughly in it's overnights at the same time period last year on a Tuesday without much promotion nor follow in...”
“With Our Girl getting just 3.8 million despite so much promotion and following on from the monster ratings of GBBO, it really makes you wonder why on earth the BBC axed New Tricks which even though it had fallen a lot from it's height was still getting 4.5-5.5 million roughly in it's overnights at the same time period last year on a Tuesday without much promotion nor follow in...”
The story goes that the company that took over New Tricks botched it so badly that the lead actors all refused to continue filming unless the producer was removed. With alleged chaos like that behind the scenes, it's no wonder the show didn't continue.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“Our Girl just isn't a natural fit with GBBO in the way Doctor Foster so obviously was. Plus it's another of those BBC One series that was recommissioned despite not really making that much of a splash first time round. Not surprised by that rating at all - but I suppose there's some consolation in it beating DCI Banks (surely the final series of that in any case?).”
“Our Girl just isn't a natural fit with GBBO in the way Doctor Foster so obviously was. Plus it's another of those BBC One series that was recommissioned despite not really making that much of a splash first time round. Not surprised by that rating at all - but I suppose there's some consolation in it beating DCI Banks (surely the final series of that in any case?).”
I was shocked it was recommissioned as it was mediocre to say the least. It had the hallmarks of being burnt off. Lacey Turner then returns to EE. Far superior drama has been axed by BBC. Never watch Corrie so no idea of the new actress ability just see her littering column of shame.
Originally Posted by alex 1:
“With Our Girl getting just 3.8 million despite so much promotion and following on from the monster ratings of GBBO, it really makes you wonder why on earth the BBC axed New Tricks which even though it had fallen a lot from it's height was still getting 4.5-5.5 million roughly in it's overnights at the same time period last year on a Tuesday without much promotion nor follow in...”
“With Our Girl getting just 3.8 million despite so much promotion and following on from the monster ratings of GBBO, it really makes you wonder why on earth the BBC axed New Tricks which even though it had fallen a lot from it's height was still getting 4.5-5.5 million roughly in it's overnights at the same time period last year on a Tuesday without much promotion nor follow in...”
Yes New Tricks had just about ridden out the storm of the cast changes and was starting to look more solid if still somewhat below its peak. I think its being missed, but you know with the Beeb there is always this extra factor of trying be different and pushing boundaries and whether its used as an excuse or there actually is a meaningful replacement drama, I think NT's longevity worked against it in the end.
Success tends to be cyclical though, the BBC has had a raft of brilliant award winning drama over the last couple of years and a fallow period is arguably to be expected.
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: 1.45m (7.5%)”
“Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: 1.45m (7.5%)”
Very good rating. C5 must have been the only one of the big five up on their slot average at 9pm.
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“Excluding +1:
Ross Kemp: Extreme World (Sky 1): 0.16m (0.8%)
The Force: Essex (Sky 1): 0.14m (1.0%)
Hell's Kitchen (ITV2): 0.13m (0.7%)
Shades of Blue (Sky Living): 0.09m (0.5%)”
“Excluding +1:
Ross Kemp: Extreme World (Sky 1): 0.16m (0.8%)
The Force: Essex (Sky 1): 0.14m (1.0%)
Hell's Kitchen (ITV2): 0.13m (0.7%)
Shades of Blue (Sky Living): 0.09m (0.5%)”
What on earth happened to the digital channels last night? Some absolutely dreadful figures there. Especially Hell's Kitchen.
The BBC made a mistake axing New Tricks IMO. The cast was settling in well and could easily have gotten another two series well above the 4.5m mark. I also think somebody missed a trick in not ordering/creating a Brian and Esther spin-off when it was axed.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“I think Breathless and Homefront were November's commissions. Monroe was definitely Mackie's, though … and another disaster (also featuring: Married Single Other).”
“I think Breathless and Homefront were November's commissions. Monroe was definitely Mackie's, though … and another disaster (also featuring: Married Single Other).”
November wasn't appointed until Spring 2013 I believe, and Homefront aired in 2012. Breathless was Autumn 2013 so was probably one of Mackie's last commissions too (although November probably got his name on the credits...unfortunately for him).
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