Good to see EastEnders climbing back towards where it should be after its Summer lull. This week's ratings have overall been the best week since May (the week of Peggy's death). Hopefully it can continue to climb back to the levels it was at in the first quarter of the year.
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Originally Posted by James J:
“It doesn't take a lot of energy to scroll past a post you don't find interesting (I appreciate a lot of people here find my thoughts on ITV boring, but you can just ignore them with a simple flick of your trackpad).
It's the same thing as saying the old ratings should be banned from the thread. We're an open community and provided we're on topic about the broadcasters and their ratings performance (which ideas are, in my opinion) it should be okay.
I'll spoiler tag from now though on so posters like cylon don't have to see my shit ideas.
"Ugh James is off on one again with more silly ideas for schedules, scroll scroll scroll"
Don't recall The Bill ever being at 9pm on Thursday, certainly not when it was successful. Wasn't that where it went to die?”
“It doesn't take a lot of energy to scroll past a post you don't find interesting (I appreciate a lot of people here find my thoughts on ITV boring, but you can just ignore them with a simple flick of your trackpad).
It's the same thing as saying the old ratings should be banned from the thread. We're an open community and provided we're on topic about the broadcasters and their ratings performance (which ideas are, in my opinion) it should be okay.
I'll spoiler tag from now though on so posters like cylon don't have to see my shit ideas.
"Ugh James is off on one again with more silly ideas for schedules, scroll scroll scroll"
Don't recall The Bill ever being at 9pm on Thursday, certainly not when it was successful. Wasn't that where it went to die?”
No James! Wait!
The schedules are neither boring or shit. It's just sometimes I'm reading on my phone instead of a laptop. And it's easier when looking on a 5 inch screen. Forget I asked. Don't stop doing them. I like them. 👍
And I think The Bill was a Thursday 9pm show by the end.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“No James! Wait!
The schedules are neither boring or shit. It's just sometimes I'm reading on my phone instead of a laptop. And it's easier when looking on a 5 inch screen. Forget I asked. Don't stop doing them. I like them. 👍
And I think The Bill was a Thursday 9pm show by the end.”
“No James! Wait!
The schedules are neither boring or shit. It's just sometimes I'm reading on my phone instead of a laptop. And it's easier when looking on a 5 inch screen. Forget I asked. Don't stop doing them. I like them. 👍
And I think The Bill was a Thursday 9pm show by the end.”
Yes, when The Bill was awful. It should always have been a 8pm serial.
Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“I think the reasoning was that BBC1 were launching dramas off the back of Bake-Off and they didn't want a large proportion of the audience deserting BBC1 to watch the after show. You can see their reasoning - if 12m watched Bake-Off, there's a chance a large proportion of them would want to watch an extra half hour of content instead of the expensive drama you're showing.”
“I think the reasoning was that BBC1 were launching dramas off the back of Bake-Off and they didn't want a large proportion of the audience deserting BBC1 to watch the after show. You can see their reasoning - if 12m watched Bake-Off, there's a chance a large proportion of them would want to watch an extra half hour of content instead of the expensive drama you're showing.”
Ok yeah i agree with that what about 10 pm the same night on bbc2 then that would be a better time surely ?
Originally Posted by burbe:
“Good to see EastEnders climbing back towards where it should be after its Summer lull. This week's ratings have overall been the best week since May (the week of Peggy's death). Hopefully it can continue to climb back to the levels it was at in the first quarter of the year.”
“Good to see EastEnders climbing back towards where it should be after its Summer lull. This week's ratings have overall been the best week since May (the week of Peggy's death). Hopefully it can continue to climb back to the levels it was at in the first quarter of the year.”
It helps that it has been interesting this week. Can it climb to 7m anytime soon?
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“It did. In the nineties and noughties ITV could put drama on any night and if it was good people watched. Soldier Soldier and Peak Practice on Tuesday, Wexford on Friday.”
“It did. In the nineties and noughties ITV could put drama on any night and if it was good people watched. Soldier Soldier and Peak Practice on Tuesday, Wexford on Friday.”
And Minder was Wednesday at 9pm. Do you remember that stockbroker drama they had on Thursdays? Probably after LA Law was cancelled.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“And Minder was Wednesday at 9pm. Do you remember that stockbroker drama they had on Thursdays? Probably after LA Law was cancelled.”
“And Minder was Wednesday at 9pm. Do you remember that stockbroker drama they had on Thursdays? Probably after LA Law was cancelled.”
Capital City?
Originally Posted by James J:
“Thanks for the list, with this in mind I think ITV should reinstate the soap block between 7-8pm on Sunday, then do:
Sunday
19:00 - Emmerdale
19:30 - Corrie
20:00 - The Durrells / The Halcyon / Good Karma Hospital (20 weeks)
21:00 Grantchester / Tennison / Tina & Bobby / Innocent / Loch Ness (25 weeks)
22:00 News at Ten
Monday
21:00 Broadchurch / Unforgotten / Fearless / Muncie (23 weeks)
Wednesday
20:00 Midsomer Murders / Vera / Endeavour / Maigret (18 weeks, all 2hr til 10pm)
21:00 Safe House (4 weeks, when above 4 have finished)
Tuesday/Thursday
20:00 Factual / Light (Mr & Mrs, Long Lost Family, Surprise Surprise)
21:00 Factual (Joanna Lumley, Trevor McDonald, etc)
Friday
20:30 - Benidorm (9 weeks), other, flexible
21:30/21:00 post-Benidorm onwards - film premieres, other stuff, no NAT
Sorts Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays out for around 20-25 weeks of drama in all available slots. Leaves Tuesdays and Thursdays for factual and light entertainment like Mr & Mrs.
This would bed Corrie back in to Sunday ahead of the 6th episode (which would be added in to 8.30pm Friday again), reinstate the Sunday cozy feel from 7-10pm which worked so well, give Wednesdays the 2 hour dramas following the Corrie lead-in.
Obviously BGT will need to take the week stripped in May, but they could just pause the dramas for one week and resume the week after.
Thoughts?”
“Thanks for the list, with this in mind I think ITV should reinstate the soap block between 7-8pm on Sunday, then do:
Sunday
19:00 - Emmerdale
19:30 - Corrie
20:00 - The Durrells / The Halcyon / Good Karma Hospital (20 weeks)
21:00 Grantchester / Tennison / Tina & Bobby / Innocent / Loch Ness (25 weeks)
22:00 News at Ten
Monday
21:00 Broadchurch / Unforgotten / Fearless / Muncie (23 weeks)
Wednesday
20:00 Midsomer Murders / Vera / Endeavour / Maigret (18 weeks, all 2hr til 10pm)
21:00 Safe House (4 weeks, when above 4 have finished)
Tuesday/Thursday
20:00 Factual / Light (Mr & Mrs, Long Lost Family, Surprise Surprise)
21:00 Factual (Joanna Lumley, Trevor McDonald, etc)
Friday
20:30 - Benidorm (9 weeks), other, flexible
21:30/21:00 post-Benidorm onwards - film premieres, other stuff, no NAT
Sorts Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays out for around 20-25 weeks of drama in all available slots. Leaves Tuesdays and Thursdays for factual and light entertainment like Mr & Mrs.
This would bed Corrie back in to Sunday ahead of the 6th episode (which would be added in to 8.30pm Friday again), reinstate the Sunday cozy feel from 7-10pm which worked so well, give Wednesdays the 2 hour dramas following the Corrie lead-in.
Obviously BGT will need to take the week stripped in May, but they could just pause the dramas for one week and resume the week after.
Thoughts?”
I do like a lot of that. Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays would be strong, although Fridays would be quite weak. A temporary problem I guess with Corrie returning in the Autumn. I think they have to be quite careful with Sundays in Q1 as Call The Midwife is so massive and BBC1 tends to put some of its best new stuff of the year on after it. The 2 hour crime dramas did well against them this year and with that in mind I'd be tempted to keep them there. I'd maybe look at something like (based on there being 21 weeks until BGT week, or 22 Sundays including New Year's Day):
Spoiler
That schedule would, I think, be pretty solid across the week and get everything tied up in time for BGT week at the end of May (I think that needs changing actually but they won't do it). Corrie could then return to Fridays at 8.30pm in the Autumn with the extra episode.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“No James! Wait!
The schedules are neither boring or shit. It's just sometimes I'm reading on my phone instead of a laptop. And it's easier when looking on a 5 inch screen. Forget I asked. Don't stop doing them. I like them. 👍
And I think The Bill was a Thursday 9pm show by the end.”
“No James! Wait!
The schedules are neither boring or shit. It's just sometimes I'm reading on my phone instead of a laptop. And it's easier when looking on a 5 inch screen. Forget I asked. Don't stop doing them. I like them. 👍
And I think The Bill was a Thursday 9pm show by the end.”
Ha, thanks
But I'll spoiler tag them anyway if I do them again, that way you have a nice present to unwrap... 
Originally Posted by Score:
“I do like a lot of that. Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays would be strong, although Fridays would be quite weak. A temporary problem I guess with Corrie returning in the Autumn. I think they have to be quite careful with Sundays in Q1 as Call The Midwife is so massive and BBC1 tends to put some of its best new stuff of the year on after it. The 2 hour crime dramas did well against them this year and with that in mind I'd be tempted to keep them there. I'd maybe look at something like (based on there being 21 weeks until BGT week, or 22 Sundays including New Year's Day):
That schedule would, I think, be pretty solid across the week and get everything tied up in time for BGT week at the end of May (I think that needs changing actually but they won't do it). Corrie could then return to Fridays at 8.30pm in the Autumn with the extra episode.”
“I do like a lot of that. Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays would be strong, although Fridays would be quite weak. A temporary problem I guess with Corrie returning in the Autumn. I think they have to be quite careful with Sundays in Q1 as Call The Midwife is so massive and BBC1 tends to put some of its best new stuff of the year on after it. The 2 hour crime dramas did well against them this year and with that in mind I'd be tempted to keep them there. I'd maybe look at something like (based on there being 21 weeks until BGT week, or 22 Sundays including New Year's Day):
Spoiler
That schedule would, I think, be pretty solid across the week and get everything tied up in time for BGT week at the end of May (I think that needs changing actually but they won't do it). Corrie could then return to Fridays at 8.30pm in the Autumn with the extra episode.”
That's fantastic, I'd really be down with that! Really well thought out and aligns with my general feeling for restructuring whilst also giving shows the best chance. Kudos!
Originally Posted by Score:
“I do like a lot of that. Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays would be strong, although Fridays would be quite weak. A temporary problem I guess with Corrie returning in the Autumn. I think they have to be quite careful with Sundays in Q1 as Call The Midwife is so massive and BBC1 tends to put some of its best new stuff of the year on after it. The 2 hour crime dramas did well against them this year and with that in mind I'd be tempted to keep them there. I'd maybe look at something like (based on there being 21 weeks until BGT week, or 22 Sundays including New Year's Day):
That schedule would, I think, be pretty solid across the week and get everything tied up in time for BGT week at the end of May (I think that needs changing actually but they won't do it). Corrie could then return to Fridays at 8.30pm in the Autumn with the extra episode.”
“I do like a lot of that. Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays would be strong, although Fridays would be quite weak. A temporary problem I guess with Corrie returning in the Autumn. I think they have to be quite careful with Sundays in Q1 as Call The Midwife is so massive and BBC1 tends to put some of its best new stuff of the year on after it. The 2 hour crime dramas did well against them this year and with that in mind I'd be tempted to keep them there. I'd maybe look at something like (based on there being 21 weeks until BGT week, or 22 Sundays including New Year's Day):
Spoiler
That schedule would, I think, be pretty solid across the week and get everything tied up in time for BGT week at the end of May (I think that needs changing actually but they won't do it). Corrie could then return to Fridays at 8.30pm in the Autumn with the extra episode.”
Fantastic ideas disagree with The Voice on Sunday though. Stick the rubbish on a Friday at 9 haha. Also revive Wild At Heart!.
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“That is actually a big problem, Cheap shows are shown but the audience have noticed. They are tuning out and I don't blame them one bit.”
“That is actually a big problem, Cheap shows are shown but the audience have noticed. They are tuning out and I don't blame them one bit.”
This is the issue. It's time the BBC were given some money to spend without answering to the government (I've never known this under any other government), and ITV should use it or lose it. I think we're falling behind the Americans by a long distance. Can you see why most British actors go abroad?
Competition is healthy - and there is always chances to repeat it again in summer, if it doesn't work first time round. It's time shows were nurtured, not scrapped because they under perform.
As for EE - fantastic ratings this week, but sadly a weak CS will beat last night's brilliant episode
Why doesn't CS do bad when it's bad, and ED/EE suffer?
Originally Posted by James J:
“Back then there were 4 or 5 channels, no internet TV like Netflix, Sky on Demand, YouTube, etc, and it was much harder to record stuff, or catch up with it later.
It's a different world now, hence why the comparison is probably only telling half the story. What worked then is less likely to work now, given the changes in society, how we consume media, and certain nights being lower for TV audiences, who haven't got as much time to give to linear viewing anymore.
That's why I think lessen the scope and focus much more on a few areas, to make it more concentrated and maximise the chance of success in the overnights. Granted there are exceptions to nearly every rule and I completely accept that.
People would have tuned in any day of the week to watch good stuff then, but now if "good stuff" is on an inconvenient day or a day that's not normally suited to drama, they'll either give it a miss or watch it via another means when it suits them - on the whole, obviously... sure it varies more depending on demographics.”
“Back then there were 4 or 5 channels, no internet TV like Netflix, Sky on Demand, YouTube, etc, and it was much harder to record stuff, or catch up with it later.
It's a different world now, hence why the comparison is probably only telling half the story. What worked then is less likely to work now, given the changes in society, how we consume media, and certain nights being lower for TV audiences, who haven't got as much time to give to linear viewing anymore.
That's why I think lessen the scope and focus much more on a few areas, to make it more concentrated and maximise the chance of success in the overnights. Granted there are exceptions to nearly every rule and I completely accept that.
People would have tuned in any day of the week to watch good stuff then, but now if "good stuff" is on an inconvenient day or a day that's not normally suited to drama, they'll either give it a miss or watch it via another means when it suits them - on the whole, obviously... sure it varies more depending on demographics.”
I agree to an extent, but it's also rubbish.
People will watch a show on any night if it's good.
For years, Friday night was considered a death slot in America. Anything you put there was a show you wanted to kill off, because apparently nobody watched it.
However, CBS put Hawaii Five-O and Blue Bloods there and they're regularly getting 10m+ viewers and they're launching a reboot of MacGyver there. They've single handedly revived that night and it's their most popular programming block.
Sundays too were a no go for a while, but again CBS has scheduled stuff like Madam Secretary there which is very successful for them. If you make good shows, people will make the time in their evenings for them.
Glowing review of The X Factor from today's RadioTimes: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...classic-series
"It will not be hard therefore for you to imagine just how happy I have been for the first two weekends of 2016 A.X. (after X Factor) because far from spluttering toward the wreckers’ yard like the worn out family saloon it had become, the X Factor has reinvented itself as the shiny new five door family-friendly SUV of Saturday nights."
"It will not be hard therefore for you to imagine just how happy I have been for the first two weekends of 2016 A.X. (after X Factor) because far from spluttering toward the wreckers’ yard like the worn out family saloon it had become, the X Factor has reinvented itself as the shiny new five door family-friendly SUV of Saturday nights."
Originally Posted by James J:
“It doesn't take a lot of energy to scroll past a post you don't find interesting (I appreciate a lot of people here find my thoughts on ITV boring, but you can just ignore them with a simple flick of your trackpad).
It's the same thing as saying the old ratings should be banned from the thread. We're an open community and provided we're on topic about the broadcasters and their ratings performance (which ideas are, in my opinion) it should be okay.
I'll spoiler tag from now though on so posters like cylon don't have to see my shit ideas.
"Ugh James is off on one again with more silly ideas for schedules, scroll scroll scroll"
Don't recall The Bill ever being at 9pm on Thursday, certainly not when it was successful. Wasn't that where it went to die?”
“It doesn't take a lot of energy to scroll past a post you don't find interesting (I appreciate a lot of people here find my thoughts on ITV boring, but you can just ignore them with a simple flick of your trackpad).
It's the same thing as saying the old ratings should be banned from the thread. We're an open community and provided we're on topic about the broadcasters and their ratings performance (which ideas are, in my opinion) it should be okay.
I'll spoiler tag from now though on so posters like cylon don't have to see my shit ideas.
"Ugh James is off on one again with more silly ideas for schedules, scroll scroll scroll"
Don't recall The Bill ever being at 9pm on Thursday, certainly not when it was successful. Wasn't that where it went to die?”
I'm pretty sure The Bill was on Thursdays at 9pm for many years. Then it went to twice a week and I stopped watching. It. Might be wrong.
A show like The Bill should always aspire to rival Hill St Blues or NYPDBlue.
Originally Posted by Score:
“Unforgotten's coming back early next year, I believe they're filming it now.
ITV aired at least 3 dramas every week (and often more) throughout January to May of this year and looking at what's coming I suspect it'll be similar in 2017. Stuff we know is set for the first half of next year includes:
Returning
Broadchurch x8
Unforgotten x6
Grantchester x6
The Durrells x6
Safe House x4
Midsomer Murders x6 (2 hour eps)
Vera x4 (2 hour eps)
Endeavour x4 (2 hour eps)
Maigret x2 (2 hour eps)
Benidorm x9
New
Loch Ness x6
Fearless x6
Tina & Bobby x3
Muncie x3
Tennison x6
Innocent x4
The Halcyon x8
The Good Karma Hospital x6
There's also the second series of Marcella, but I'm not sure whether that'll be later in the year so didn't include it.
So there's quite a lot as you can see, certainly more than enough for 3 a week (at least) from January until May (with there being no Euros I guess they might run something in June, but even then they might not have announced that show yet). They're doing a lot of drama at the moment and I guess the one downside is that it can't all get the best slots (Sunday/Monday). But even drama outside of those nights tends to rate better than factual would and so pulls up the audience share. I think it looks like a pretty good slate though and hopefully they can get a couple of new hits out of it.
EDIT: Just saw your addition about The Level. I agree it's surprising although reading the synopsis I'm not sure how well it'll actually rate. They aired The Secret on Fridays earlier this year to pretty decent numbers so all isn't lost for it. Stuff like Lewis and Law & Order UK has played well on Fridays in the past although I guess those were fairly typical 'heartland' shows in a way this might not be. We'll see!”
“Unforgotten's coming back early next year, I believe they're filming it now.
ITV aired at least 3 dramas every week (and often more) throughout January to May of this year and looking at what's coming I suspect it'll be similar in 2017. Stuff we know is set for the first half of next year includes:
Returning
Broadchurch x8
Unforgotten x6
Grantchester x6
The Durrells x6
Safe House x4
Midsomer Murders x6 (2 hour eps)
Vera x4 (2 hour eps)
Endeavour x4 (2 hour eps)
Maigret x2 (2 hour eps)
Benidorm x9
New
Loch Ness x6
Fearless x6
Tina & Bobby x3
Muncie x3
Tennison x6
Innocent x4
The Halcyon x8
The Good Karma Hospital x6
There's also the second series of Marcella, but I'm not sure whether that'll be later in the year so didn't include it.
So there's quite a lot as you can see, certainly more than enough for 3 a week (at least) from January until May (with there being no Euros I guess they might run something in June, but even then they might not have announced that show yet). They're doing a lot of drama at the moment and I guess the one downside is that it can't all get the best slots (Sunday/Monday). But even drama outside of those nights tends to rate better than factual would and so pulls up the audience share. I think it looks like a pretty good slate though and hopefully they can get a couple of new hits out of it.
EDIT: Just saw your addition about The Level. I agree it's surprising although reading the synopsis I'm not sure how well it'll actually rate. They aired The Secret on Fridays earlier this year to pretty decent numbers so all isn't lost for it. Stuff like Lewis and Law & Order UK has played well on Fridays in the past although I guess those were fairly typical 'heartland' shows in a way this might not be. We'll see!”
Thank you. Such a good post I've just screenshotted it. Brief Encounters goes somewhere too.
NB Apologies if I have typos but I only use my phone and so it is Android's fault.
Toss in a few quality documentaries from co-producing with the likes of National Geographic and History and Animal Planet and you might dramatically enhance the brand value of itv. The knock-on effect would be significant.
Originally Posted by James J:
“That's fantastic, I'd really be down with that! Really well thought out and aligns with my general feeling for restructuring whilst also giving shows the best chance. Kudos!”
“That's fantastic, I'd really be down with that! Really well thought out and aligns with my general feeling for restructuring whilst also giving shows the best chance. Kudos!”
Originally Posted by Cory_Osborn2:
“Fantastic ideas disagree with The Voice on Sunday though. Stick the rubbish on a Friday at 9 haha. Also revive Wild At Heart!.”
“Fantastic ideas disagree with The Voice on Sunday though. Stick the rubbish on a Friday at 9 haha. Also revive Wild At Heart!.”
Thanks both! I think the problem with factual is that there aren't enough topics that will draw in a big enough audience on ITV. Even Trevor McDonald bombed this week (as the topic wasn't interesting enough). It's tough.
I personally would also like The Voice to be kept to one night, but it probably isn't practical with Saturday Night Takeaway there unless they want it running really late or they change the format or the number of weeks it runs. Also as we've seen in the past with The Voice and X Factor's dabbles there, Friday doesn't really work for these shows.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Thank you. Such a good post I've just screenshotted it. Brief Encounters goes somewhere too.
NB Apologies if I have typos but I only use my phone and so it is Android's fault.
Toss in a few quality documentaries from co-producing with the likes of National Geographic and History and Animal Planet and you might dramatically enhance the brand value of itv. The knock-on effect would be significant.”
“Thank you. Such a good post I've just screenshotted it. Brief Encounters goes somewhere too.
NB Apologies if I have typos but I only use my phone and so it is Android's fault.
Toss in a few quality documentaries from co-producing with the likes of National Geographic and History and Animal Planet and you might dramatically enhance the brand value of itv. The knock-on effect would be significant.”
Thank you! Not sure if Brief Encounters has been recommissioned yet or not, although I think it deserves to be.
Co-productions like that could definitely be an option worth exploring and could get some factual with higher production values on the channel. I think it's definitely worth them looking at to fill some of those much needed factual gaps in the schedule. They gave that sort of show a go earlier in the year with Life at The Extreme and whilst it wasn't a disaster it didn't quite hit the mark either, I think the idea of the show itself needed work. But it was a decent step in that sort of direction.
Originally Posted by James J:
“Back then there were 4 or 5 channels, no internet TV like Netflix, Sky on Demand, YouTube, etc, and it was much harder to record stuff, or catch up with it later.
It's a different world now, hence why the comparison is probably only telling half the story. What worked then is less likely to work now, given the changes in society, how we consume media, and certain nights being lower for TV audiences, who haven't got as much time to give to linear viewing anymore.
That's why I think lessen the scope and focus much more on a few areas, to make it more concentrated and maximise the chance of success in the overnights. Granted there are exceptions to nearly every rule and I completely accept that.
People would have tuned in any day of the week to watch good stuff then, but now if "good stuff" is on an inconvenient day or a day that's not normally suited to drama, they'll either give it a miss or watch it via another means when it suits them - on the whole, obviously... sure it varies more depending on demographics.”
“Back then there were 4 or 5 channels, no internet TV like Netflix, Sky on Demand, YouTube, etc, and it was much harder to record stuff, or catch up with it later.
It's a different world now, hence why the comparison is probably only telling half the story. What worked then is less likely to work now, given the changes in society, how we consume media, and certain nights being lower for TV audiences, who haven't got as much time to give to linear viewing anymore.
That's why I think lessen the scope and focus much more on a few areas, to make it more concentrated and maximise the chance of success in the overnights. Granted there are exceptions to nearly every rule and I completely accept that.
People would have tuned in any day of the week to watch good stuff then, but now if "good stuff" is on an inconvenient day or a day that's not normally suited to drama, they'll either give it a miss or watch it via another means when it suits them - on the whole, obviously... sure it varies more depending on demographics.”
But isn't that an argument for putting any drama on any day because we live in an era where people will watch it when it suits them?
Originally Posted by James J:
“Glowing review of The X Factor from today's RadioTimes: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...classic-series
"It will not be hard therefore for you to imagine just how happy I have been for the first two weekends of 2016 A.X. (after X Factor) because far from spluttering toward the wreckers’ yard like the worn out family saloon it had become, the X Factor has reinvented itself as the shiny new five door family-friendly SUV of Saturday nights."”
“Glowing review of The X Factor from today's RadioTimes: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...classic-series
"It will not be hard therefore for you to imagine just how happy I have been for the first two weekends of 2016 A.X. (after X Factor) because far from spluttering toward the wreckers’ yard like the worn out family saloon it had become, the X Factor has reinvented itself as the shiny new five door family-friendly SUV of Saturday nights."”
It's definitely going well so far and I've enjoyed the episodes a lot. But equally the auditions are probably the easiest part to get right and I hope they don't bigger it up afterwards.
It seems that next week the Saturday show will be the final few auditions and then end with the introduction to bootcamp. The Sunday show is 90 minutes and is the only bootcamp episode. I quite like that as still having some auditions on the Saturday show might reduce the normal bootcamp slump. It seems they're focus sing on the group round, which was a good episode last year so hopefully that'll go OK.
The following week is the Six Chair Challenge, which is divisive but has rated well. It seems they're keeping it to just one weekend this year (over 2 shows) which is probably good for those who don't like it as it seemed to take up a large chunk of the series last year. After that it's a week of judges houses, which I personally find a bit dull but I think it'll go down relatively well as it'll be a big improvement on last year's live mess.
Then it's the live shows which from what I can tell seem to be back at a full 10 week run this year. That's good as long as they freshen them up a bit as they have felt stale the past few years. I know they planned a few changes last year which then got scrapped at the last minute (I think the disaster of judges houses live spooked them). I don't think they should completely change them, but a few tweaks and a bit of a freshen up would definitely help. The panel works though which should put them in a better position than last year for when they go live.
Originally Posted by Cory_Osborn2:
“Yes, when The Bill was awful. It should always have been a 8pm serial.”
“Yes, when The Bill was awful. It should always have been a 8pm serial.”
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“I'm pretty sure The Bill was on Thursdays at 9pm for many years. Then it went to twice a week and I stopped watching. It. Might be wrong.
A show like The Bill should always aspire to rival Hill St Blues or NYPDBlue.”
“I'm pretty sure The Bill was on Thursdays at 9pm for many years. Then it went to twice a week and I stopped watching. It. Might be wrong.
A show like The Bill should always aspire to rival Hill St Blues or NYPDBlue.”
The Bill started out as a gritty 9pm drama, when it moved to 8pm it kept that spirit. But when it became more soap like it was ruined for me.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“But isn't that an argument for putting any drama on any day because we live in an era where people will watch it when it suits them?”
“But isn't that an argument for putting any drama on any day because we live in an era where people will watch it when it suits them?”
I suppose but the OP argued that it stops people from watching live, which it doesn't. If you make something that is "unmissable" to the audience, like Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, Broadchurch or The Night Manager, they're going to watch it live so they avoid spoilers and can be a part of the conversation about the show.
If you create middling dramas that aren't awful but aren't amazing, people will timeshift it when they feel like it.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“The Bill started out as a gritty 9pm drama, when it moved to 8pm it kept that spirit. But when it became more soap like it was ruined for me.”
“The Bill started out as a gritty 9pm drama, when it moved to 8pm it kept that spirit. But when it became more soap like it was ruined for me.”
I didn't know it started at 9 when it began. I meant series 26 which was on at 9 was dire, then it turned out to be the last.
Sorry some of my knowledge is rubbish. I'm quite young at 17 but love TV past, present and future.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“But isn't that an argument for putting any drama on any day because we live in an era where people will watch it when it suits them?”
“But isn't that an argument for putting any drama on any day because we live in an era where people will watch it when it suits them?”
Not really, not for ITV where overnight ratings are still important to appeal to advertisers.
Originally Posted by Cory_Osborn2:
“I didn't know it started at 9 when it began. I meant series 26 which was on at 9 was dire, then it turned out to be the last.
Sorry some of my knowledge is rubbish. I'm quite young at 17 but love TV past, present and future.”
“I didn't know it started at 9 when it began. I meant series 26 which was on at 9 was dire, then it turned out to be the last.
Sorry some of my knowledge is rubbish. I'm quite young at 17 but love TV past, present and future.”
I watched the pilot The Woodentops and loved it from then. Was hooked on The Bill for, day 1. Went off it at the end, thought it was very poor and had a mercy killing. But it could have stayed if they hadn't messed it up so badly.
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