It could do if another week it directly follows Strictly with no overlap

A bit disappointing all round for ITV. The game shows just don't work in the 7pm slot, why have they not had the sense to put something else there? X Factor should be higher. Newzoids should also be above 3 million.

And Jonathon Ross, why even bother? Should be stuck at 10:40pm on a Friday night.

I reckon TPTB don't actually like doing themed weeks but feel they have to because that's what the public wants

Equivalent Saturday 2015

Pointless 3.96
In it to Win it 3.1
Proms 4.09

Graham Norton would beat it big style. I think Sunday at 10pm would be a good slot for Jonathan Ross.

It's strange to recall that, I think, the first two series didn't have theme weeks. They only really took hold in series three.

I'm not sure about ditching them completely as the themes give a hook to the show itself but they can go with bland themes so the focus is on the performances themselves (Number Ones, 21st Century, British Songbook, USA) and have a couple of weeks where the theme controls the show (Halloween definitely, maybe they should have a Musical week?! It'd be fascinating to see how the show handled that one!)


I think the lottery quiz would have pulled in more than 2m viewers. Casualty couldn't even hit 4m saying that so the competition wasn't overwhelming... not when considering it'll be up against 5m+ rated Antiques Roadshow tonight.

You honestly don't think losing 900k on last week isn't that bad? I'll freely admit it isn't a disaster but it's not great either.

Proms looks bad there, mind you the first 20 minutes wasn't doing it any favours. I don't know why they don't go all out for crowd pleasers all the way through given its the only showcase on BBC1 the season gets and they have already had a part 1 on two.

Not so bad for Casualty against XF, the 30th has given it and Holby a bit of a lift. Perhaps playing Casualty against XF in the whole Strictly gap isn't a bad idea for next year and trying something else when the audience goes awol from ITV after XF.

All round though those aren't great figures as the weather wasn't great yesterday.

Haven't the Sunday ratings been lower than Saturday's so far? I'd be surprised if there's an increase tonight

Bring back Grimmy

I meant more, if tonight's is significantly down week on week.

Extremely disappointing rating for the ailing XF, a continued dip, as I posted before last weekend, XF was propped up last week, by SCD being on before it with very high ratings. But without SCD it suffered.

Aldo feedback on last weeks XF show on the XF forum was disapproving and last nights gas had a negative response. Lots of negative tabloid articles on it are not helping, and we most likely will see a lot more turn off, as the " The Emperor's New Clothes " dawns on viewers that it's not new, it's exactly what it was before. Changing the coaches to three over 60s on a youth targeted show has failed.

Nick Grimshaw was at least in the target audience area, loosing him as a scapegoat was a backwards move with this very old feeling panel.

It's a shame Newzoids isn't doing well. I think it's pretty funny and the perfect slot for it.

Another Stephen Mulhern flop - when are they going to rid the network of this talentless wannabe .. just as bad on the radio

Yes and last night's show is down on last Sunday's figure already, by 0.2m.

I don't know that they necessarily need them to give a hook to the show, although I'd agree that you wouldn't want a big theme taking over every week. They did a musical week on American Idol years ago and Cowell hated it so I doubt they'll go down that route. I think Mark Sidaway (exec producer) has said he wouldn't do it in the past as well. I'd being back the celebrity guest mentors in certain weeks as well, they added a bit to the VTs.


It might be down a little bit because of the Paralympics (although C4 was strong last Sunday too so maybe not) but I can't see the drop being as much as last night's.

The Paralympics took some viewers from BBC1 and ITV.

I think ratings last night seemed lower all round casualty also would more competiton than in it to win it. Your over thinking it too much.

Although I'm being critical of The X Factor the real poor rating which stands out there is Last Night of The Proms. It's been in the 4m's for as long as I can remember so a sudden dip into the low 3's is very odd indeed - even taking into account the Paralympics it had a better and, on paper, more compatible lead in than year and... though I can't be sure of this... less of a clash with The X Factor?

Another stand out rating for me is Football League Tonight. If we're pointing the finger at the Paralympics for hurting ratings elsewhere it looks like Football League Tonight may have just bottomed out as, from what I can recall, it's remained pretty steady.


It's a shame as they could really put on a show with musical week - they need to put entertainment above commercialism now though they probably went a little bit too far last night!

'Extremely disappointing' is pushing it a bit. It was never going to be close to last week which was inflated due to SCD. Last Sunday had 7.5m viewers and last night was well up on the opening weekend. It's also more or less flat year on year. All things considered, it was a solid rating.

He is dreadful. The reason I can't sit through Catchphrase which I used to love when Roy Walker presented it.

It had 8.3m viewers last week and lost 0.9m of them. That is pretty disappointing. If people enjoyed the show they would have returned; as it did a sizeable number didn't.

Or maybe you're just ignoring every single external factor such as competition, weather, etc.
"Ratings are down so people mustn't have enjoyed it" is a tad one-dimensional in 2016's complex ratings environment. The second weekend's shows were received very well.

They didn't return on the Sunday so why would they have returned last night?

SCD was last weeks appointment viewing TV which brought more viewers in, and most shows were boosted due to a larger floating audience. That audience simply wasn't there last night.

It's solid enough and about where I expected, it's settled around the 7m mark, which is still a good rating, (If BBC One''s upcomjng Take That musical show gets that then we'll be falling over ourselves to say what a hit it is)- It does seem to have steadied the ship though but they can't afford the dramatic tail off in the lIive shows this year as it hasn't got much room to fall- It's doing what ITV have asked of it tbh, and looking at the wasteland across the board last night it does still bring in the viewers

The weather? It wasn't exactly a beautiful autumn day.

To lose almost a million viewers suggests that the audience weren't particularly impressed.

It also looks like SCD meant there were a few more viewers around last week.