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Without Mel and Sue, Channel 4 should be looking to do some hasty renegotiations. ITV won't touch it and the BBC don't have the money, so C4 are in the better position compared to Love.
It's hilarious that the country is more bothered about Bake Off rather than Brexit. ![]() The whole thing seems like a transfer on football Deadline Day. A lot of money thrown about, very few clear details ironed out & general unease about the whole thing (quite a few footballing examples there). |
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It's remarkable to think that Channel 4 agreed a deal without approaching the talent. In fact, it was a complete oversight.
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Without Mel and Sue, Channel 4 should be looking to do some hasty renegotiations. ITV won't touch it and the BBC don't have the money, so C4 are in the better position compared to Love.
It's hilarious that the country is more bothered about Bake Off rather than Brexit. ![]() |
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Why do I get the feeling that nobody who actually contributed to the show's success was part of the negotiations? The owners of the company apparently created and executive produce it, but I doubt any other producers critical to the format were involved. Silly people....but I guess if your only priority is your own wealth that's just fine eh?
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In my wildest dreams, I really hope there is a U turn on this and it goes back to the BBC. The show without Mel and Sue won't be the same, they made the show special and were one of its magic ingredients - it belongs on the BBC.
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Love Productions have really dismantled their own programme. All for money? I can't understand it. A lot of respect for Mel and Sue, they made the right decision.
And I kind of feel a little sorry for Channel 4. The negative reaction and the amount of money they've spent is pushing it closer to privitisation if (and I have to say when) it crashes and burns (pun intended). That would be a very sad day for broadcasting. Do we know what's happening with the two Christmas specials? Are they going ahead, or have they already been filmed? I don't feel any sympathy for Channel 4, they knew what they got themselves in for. And Love Productions got what they set out for....more money. All shows have a shelf life....Bake Off's longevity has now been threatened by moving channels. And please no u-turns.............BBC called Love's bluff; they now have the creativity to persue another new projects. |
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Well Love Productions have well and truly blown it. I can see Mary and Paul following shortly.
If I had a choice, I'd back Davina to replace Mel & Sue. She's got a similar sense of humour I think and would do well. |
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Without Mel and Sue, Channel 4 should be looking to do some hasty renegotiations. ITV won't touch it and the BBC don't have the money, so C4 are in the better position compared to Love.
It's hilarious that the country is more bothered about Bake Off rather than Brexit. ![]() |
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Well Love Productions have well and truly blown it. I can see Mary and Paul following shortly.
If I had a choice, I'd back Davina to replace Mel & Sue. She's got a similar sense of humour I think and would do well. |
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Nadiya winning last year was their 'bigger than Jesus' moment. They got big-headed and this is the result: everyone losing out because of the sheer incompetence and greed of a select few.
I don't feel any sympathy for Channel 4, they knew what they got themselves in for. And Love Productions got what they set out for....more money. All shows have a shelf life....Bake Off's longevity has now been threatened by moving channels. And please no u-turns.............BBC called Love's bluff; they now have the creativity to persue another new projects. |
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Well Love Productions have well and truly blown it. I can see Mary and Paul following shortly.
If I had a choice, I'd back Davina to replace Mel & Sue. She's got a similar sense of humour I think and would do well. |
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Why do I get the feeling that nobody who actually contributed to the show's success was part of the negotiations? The owners of the company apparently created and executive produce it, but I doubt any other producers critical to the format were involved. Silly people....but I guess if your only priority is your own wealth that's just fine eh?
As I said previously, Bake Off exists due to the BBC being in the unique position that they can make a show purely based on talent and not viewing figures or what the advertiser demands. You only need to look at Love's other work like Benefits Street and one off documentaries. Nothing has reached Bake Off heights for them, and they've nearly all been on commercial tv. |
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Well this should be the new definition of the word Omnishambles. A complete and utter farce. I think this is hilarious. It is like C4 thaught they had the top hand and BBC more or less having a Royal Flush (of hearts of course) BBC have every opportunity to come out of this smelling like Chanel no5.
I just can't believe what has happened over the last 24 hours. It is like Love Productions has got the Baked Alaska out of the freezer to early and has flopped all over the shot. This is brilliantly awful! |
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So C4 have paid £25m per year for a v simple format without the talent locked in. Hahaha. If they don't get Mary & Paul then they've got nothing. Couldn't make it up.
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Am I the only one on here more concerned about Cold Feet's rating than Channel 4's soggy bottom?
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Slightly diferent situation. They didn't go back on the contract, they just sold the episodes to BBC at a loss due to the publicity around it. The BBC held back part of the prior season and planned to run it opposite Thames' new episodes, which meant the BBC figures would be better because people hadn't seen those episodes, let alone the newest ones.
There was a similar case with Friends as well. Sky tried to poach the rights when it was popular (Frasier too) but in both cases the companies said how much they appreciated Channel 4 had done for the shows and felt they would be better treated, despite getting less money for them. They politely told Sky to stick it. Sky's interest pretty much dwindled by the millennium.........they had imported lots of American shows, in most cases not knowing where to put them (Family Guy in the afternoons....... ).
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ITV must be pissing themselves. Their biggest ratings rival has just lost its biggest show whilst their biggest commercial rival has just spent £75 million on a soggy bottom with no talent.
I don't blame Channel 4 for wanting the show, but doing the deal with nothing in place for the talent attached was beyond short sighted. |
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Am I the only one on here more concerned about Cold Feet's rating than Channel 4's soggy bottom?
![]() ![]() I don't know whether that'd be enough for another series. |
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ITV must be pissing themselves. Their biggest ratings rival has just lost its biggest show whilst their biggest commercial rival has just spent £75 million on a soggy bottom with no talent.
I don't blame Channel 4 for wanting the show, but doing the deal with nothing in place for the talent attached was beyond short sighted. If only the TV Festival had fallen a month later. Can you imagine?
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There was a similar case with Friends as well. Sky tried to poach the rights when it was popular (Frasier too) but in both cases the companies said how much they appreciated Channel 4 had done for the shows and felt they would be better treated, despite getting less money for them. They politely told Sky to stick it. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466385 |
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The story that keeps on giving and I'm sure there are more twists to come yet.
If only the TV Festival had fallen a month later. Can you imagine? ![]()
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Like Poldark and Victoria, I think it'll stay above 4m in the overnights.
I don't know whether that'd be enough for another series. It's astounding really. As I said it was really well received and yet... Where does it go from here? |
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Wonder what will now happen ratings wise with this series of bake off? Will it go up? Or will it go down?
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If C4 backed out they would look incredibly dumb. Not the impression you want to give to the world. The damage to its reputation would be a good argument for selling it off.
They certainly need to try to keep one of the judges at least. Nice of Mel and Sue to tell everybody that if Hollywood or Mary switch then they are only bothered about the dough. Classy. |
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Wonder what will now happen ratings wise with this series of bake off? Will it go up? Or will it go down?
But it'll stay the same. No reason for it not to. |
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