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I think you underestimate just how much Channel 4 are willing to do to get them to sign on. Trust me, £6m each is being considered as an opening offer by people in the know.
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Predictions for tonight? With the avalanche of publicity is it too outre to consider a 15m overnight?
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*****RATINGS*****
Including +1: 9/11: Truth, Lies and Conspiracies: 2.4m (12.4%) The Last Leg: Live from Rio: 1.9m Eamonn and Ruth: How the Other Half Lives: 1m (5.2%) ****Thanks***** Do you know how the new BT score show is doing v Soccer Saturday? |
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95% of these discussions have nothing to do with ratings as far as I can see
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Bit too much perhaps, as it's still just a Week 4 episode that's not being teased for any shocks, but it's not beyond imagination that it'll reach close to 11 million, even more than the opener. It's that little bit darker at 8pm now than 3 or 4 weeks ago, and everyone's back from holidays and in their autumn routine.
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*****RATINGS*****
Including +1: 9/11: Truth, Lies and Conspiracies: 2.4m (12.4%) The Last Leg: Live from Rio: 1.9m Eamonn and Ruth: How the Other Half Lives: 1m (5.2%) Actually that is not bad for the 9/11 do on ITV. I did think it would be sub 2m. |
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Predictions for tonight? With the avalanche of publicity is it too outre to consider a 15m overnight?
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In other news, ITV are to strip a Late Late show style format next year: Quote:
ITV is making a multi-million pound move into late-night comedy with a stripped show that it hopes can replicate the success of The Late Late Show with James Corden. More here: http://m.broadcastnow.co.uk/5109445.articleThe commercial broadcaster has ordered a nightly series to be produced by Andrew O’Connor’s ITV-owned production group Cats on the Roof Media and exec produced by former Strictly Come Dancing and Top Gear boss Katie Taylor. The currently untitled show is believed to have been handed an order of around 40 episodes and will be stripped throughout the week across a two month period. It will launch in the new year. It is understood that the show will have revolving celebrity hosts. Pre-production has started with producers currently developing a range of format points. It’s believed that the ambition is to develop a number of segments that can air on the linear show and also be shared virally, in the same way that Corden’s Carpool Karaoke and Drop The Mic strands are widely shared online. What slot? ITV is still exploring plans for which slot to hand the show. Initially lined up as an event series rather than an ongoing commission, it is thought to be the project which has caused director of television Kevin Lygo to weigh up moving the ITV News at Ten. However, the broadcaster is also examining whether to air the show in a post-news 10.30pm slot. It will be Lygo’s most ambitious order to date, after he replaced Peter Fincham as director of television in January. I think they'd need to try 10pm rather than going after the news where the lead-in would be pretty minimal. Not sure about the idea of rotating guest presenters but I think it's the sort of thing they should be trying. |
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To be fair, Love Productions are not wrong to sell the format to the highest bidder, it is in the nature of private companys, C4 is wrong for paying £75m when key talent was not secured.
Now, they've took tax payers money and made huge profits for themselves, and that's disgusting. Of course, the BBC could be blamed for not having it in their contracts that they get first refusal, but it's never happened before and there was always a gentleman's agreement that you don't poach shows when a channel wants to continue airing them. |
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So they've got two people who can't sing or dance and a woman most people (including me) have to google.
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Despite this, it should get 6m if it has no competition. Put it on before The Voice in the SCD slot.
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In other news, ITV are to strip a Late Late show style format next year:
More here: http://m.broadcastnow.co.uk/5109445.article I think they'd need to try 10pm rather than going after the news where the lead-in would be pretty minimal. Not sure about the idea of rotating guest presenters but I think it's the sort of thing they should be trying. |
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I think Love Productions are wrong actually. They took licence fee money from the BBC and because of the unique format of the BBC, they got a 2nd series when on a commercial channel they wouldn't have. Not having to bow to advertisers meant the show could be purely talent based and it didn't need a cash prize.
Now, they've took tax payers money and made huge profits for themselves, and that's disgusting. Of course, the BBC could be blamed for not having it in their contracts that they get first refusal, but it's never happened before and there was always a gentleman's agreement that you don't poach shows when a channel wants to continue airing them. |
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****Thanks*****
Do you know how the new BT score show is doing v Soccer Saturday? So not very well. Less than half a dozen BARB households!! I expect Mark Pougatch's cost per viewer is higher than the Bake Off crowd!! |
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To be fair, Love Productions are not wrong to sell the format to the highest bidder, it is in the nature of private companys, C4 is wrong for paying £75m when key talent was not secured.
There are a lot of people in TV right now that think Love Productions have acted shoddily. But it will all come out eventually. |
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That'll be after News At Ten. BBC2 have a Saturday Night Live/US late night type show coming up too. That's earmarked for 10pm.
Is the BBC2 series going to be stripped nightly as well? |
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If every production goes to the highest bidder then schedules couldn't be established and broadcasters would be screwed over. The difference is most indies don't act like Love Productions and build good relationships with broadcasters.
There are a lot of people in TV right now that think Love Productions have acted shoddily. But it will all come out eventually. Yes Love Productions have acted badly towards the BBC and licence fee payers, but they have acted exactly like a private sector company, short term profits over everything else. I bet other production companys are not happy, they have a sweet gig the BBC forced to buy their product, and the public largely unaware, this threatens that arrangement. |
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See they haver started trailing the Apprentice - wont be too long
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having a stable market is good for both TV channel and production company, however the odd switch in channels does not totally wreck that stable market. Lets be hoenst if a show was moving from ITV to C4, it would not have this reaction.
Yes Love Productions have acted badly towards the BBC and licence fee payers, but they have acted exactly like a private sector company, short term profits over everything else. I bet other production companys are not happy, they have a sweet gig the BBC forced to buy their product, and the public largely unaware, this threatens that arrangement. Whilst companies are made up for profit that's true, there is nowadays " social responsibility " there is " reputation risk, if a business is all out for profits and doesn't consider its impact on people. We see at Southern Rail where not working with employees and the public it fails. Big companies such as " certain coffee companies" that make " " big Bucks" but do not pay U.K. taxes, or companies associated with the Internet who do not care for the people in the regions they work but transfer their profits to tax havens, get a lot of negativity from the public and reputation risk to the company. Here Love Productions have exploited the BBC and refused an enhanced good offer and sold out to C4 for an excessive £25 million. Love didn't consult its prized talent, hence they leave, and clearly as thry hoped into a taxi to C4 - and signed up in an hour, had had prior communication with C4 and discard the £ deal behind the BBC back, and clearly had board meetings prior on strategy. This company must not have, Reputational risk policy or training. Social policy on giving back to the community where it works. Companies who rip off the public with excessive profits are frowned on, and in the end, damage their image, and in this situation have killed the golden goose laying the golden egg, and created considerable negative comment. Now " everyone" through social media and tabloid press knows Love Productions for very negative reasons, worse than estate agents or banks, and for the company that is bad news, the main commissioner for there work now will avoid them. The business will go the way of other businesses that ripped off the public. Nothing wrong with making a decent profit, just do not go too far. C4 didn't undertake due diligence on this deal, they didn't insist the people talent were tied in, they were too keen to sign up in an hour for a headline, and upset ten million viewers. The deal is outside there remit and will be a stick to best thrm with for privatisation, that's a massive own goal. |
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In other news, ITV are to strip a Late Late show style format next year:
More here: http://m.broadcastnow.co.uk/5109445.article I think they'd need to try 10pm rather than going after the news where the lead-in would be pretty minimal. Not sure about the idea of rotating guest presenters but I think it's the sort of thing they should be trying. When you watch Jimmy Fallon you realise much of the show is made up of games. Jimmy and Matt Damon have a beer pong game. It's more of a variety show. |
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The longer Mary and Paul stay quiet, the stronger their likelihoods of going to C4. I believe both Mary and Paul will go to C4 because "they care about the show and would like to see it thrive in the future."
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It's an excellent idea. It won't do great ratings so 10:30 makes sense. The BBC will be showing news.
When you watch Jimmy Fallon you realise much of the show is made up of games. Jimmy and Matt Damon have a beer pong game. It's more of a variety show. British TV history is littered with attempts at the format that didn't work though. I assume the "rotating hosts" idea is more a way of giving lots of faces a relatively pressure-free trial run, rather than the long term aim. ITV will need to be prepared to stick with it to begin with - and accept that the emphasis is as much on YouTube views as it is overnights. |
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Whilst companies are made up for profit that's true, there is nowadays " social responsibility " there is " reputation risk, if a business is all out for profits and doesn't consider its impact on people.
We see at Southern Rail where not working with employees and the public it fails. Big companies such as " certain coffee companies" that make " " big Bucks" but do not pay U.K. taxes, or companies associated with the Internet who do not care for the people in the regions they work but transfer their profits to tax havens, get a lot of negativity from the public and reputation risk to the company. Here Love Productions have exploited the BBC and refused an enhanced good offer and sold out to C4 for an excessive £25 million. Love didn't consult its prized talent, hence they leave, and clearly as thry hoped into a taxi to C4 - and signed up in an hour, had had prior communication with C4 and discard the £ deal behind the BBC back, and clearly had board meetings prior on strategy. This company must not have, Reputational risk policy or training. Social policy on giving back to the community where it works. Companies who rip off the public with excessive profits are frowned on, and in the end, damage their image, and in this situation have killed the golden goose laying the golden egg, and created considerable negative comment. Now " everyone" through social media and tabloid press knows Love Productions for very negative reasons, worse than estate agents or banks, and for the company that is bad news, the main commissioner for there work now will avoid them. The business will go the way of other businesses that ripped off the public. Nothing wrong with making a decent profit, just do not go too far. Quote:
C4 didn't undertake due diligence on this deal, they didn't insist the people talent were tied in, they were too keen to sign up in an hour for a headline, and upset ten million viewers. The deal is outside there remit and will be a stick to best thrm with for privatisation, that's a massive own goal.
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From ITV Media:
Tuesday Top 10 (inc. +1) 1 BBC One - 07:30 PM EastEnders 5.937m 33% 2 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.508m 33% 3 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 4.879m 32% 4 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 4.449m 31% 5 BBC One - 08:00 PM Holby City 4.252m 23% 6 BBC One - 09:00 PM One of Us 3.561m 18% 7 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 3.533m 23% 8 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 3.385m 20% 9 BBC One - 10:30 PM Regional News and Weather 3.114m 23% 10 ITV - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 2.915m 20% Tuesday Top 10 (inc. +1) (not including the five main channels) 1 ITV3 - 08:00 PM Midsomer Murders 868k 4.5% 2 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 807k 4.9% 3 Film4 - 09:00 PM Before I Go to Sleep 488k 2.8% 4 BT Sport 2 - 07:00 PM Live Paris Saint-Germain v Arsenal 478k 2.6% 5 E4 - 06:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 430k 2.8% 6 BBC Four - 08:00 PM The Brecon Beacons with Iolo Williams 424k 2.3% 7 E4 - 09:00 PM Body Fixers 417k 2.1% 8 CBeebies - 05:00 PM The Let's Go Club 397k 4.0% 9 CBeebies - 04:45 PM Peter Rabbit 392k 4.4% 10 CBeebies - 04:30 PM Do You Know? 381k 4.6% |
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The longer Mary and Paul stay quiet, the stronger their likelihoods of going to C4. I believe both Mary and Paul will go to C4 because "they care about the show and would like to see it thrive in the future."
I hope I'm wrong. Mary and Paul both said the show wouldn't work without Mel and Sue, but maybe the money is too big to turn down. |
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Anyone know if UKTV are planning another rebrand for their channels?. GOLD is showing Lovejoy soon which means Drama is starting to be shown on the comedy channel.
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